General LSX Automobile Discussion - Please talk me out of trading the camaro for a 99 FRC

at the dealer I just started working at we just got a Pewter FRC in on trade. it is in MINT condition and only has 48k miles on it and it has full exhaust and intake setup. I can get it for a very nice price ( around $15k)

I have a Pewter 2002 Z28. I only owe like $4k on it. it has a 3000 stall with a stage 2 performabuilt transmission in it. it has 104k miles on it. I like the car still, but its a little tired and I have always liked vettes more, especially pewter C5 FRC's. idk why but I love pewter.

what would you do?
I want to buy the vette, but it would be more responsible to keep the camaro

here's what the camaro looks like. its nothing special, but it was the first car I bought all on my own.
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm5/z28punk_album/Camaro%20Photoshoot/RKCmeet9-1-08063-2.jpg
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm5/z28punk_album/Camaro%20Photoshoot/Internet%20safe%20photoshoot%20pics/RKCmeet9-1-08003-2.jpg

ha ha get the vette man :thumb:

heres the vette.
http://lbchevy.lutherauto.com/images/InventoryPhotos/1G1Y/Y12G/7X5/1G1YY12G7X5130441/1G1YY12G7X5130441_1.jpg
http://lbchevy.lutherauto.com/images/InventoryPhotos/1G1Y/Y12G/7X5/1G1YY12G7X5130441/1G1YY12G7X5130441_2.jpg
http://lbchevy.lutherauto.com/images/InventoryPhotos/1G1Y/Y12G/7X5/1G1YY12G7X5130441/1G1YY12G7X5130441_12.jpg

Are you married?? If not...buy the vette!!! If so...you will never hear the end of the bitching!!

i would go for the vette i think u will me much happier in the long run.unless u have kids or plan on kids soon. unless u have another vehicle

I am 21 and single. I just figured out payments...... even if I get $5k for my car, the payments will stay about the same as I am paying now. I would just have to pay for another couple years longer than I would paying for the camaro. it all depends on how much the insurance would go up.

Ok, since you want me to talk you out of trading the Camaro I'm gonna say... don't trade it...

Now how I really feel... lol

That vette is freakin clean!! Trade it!!! You will be very happy!!!

yea it doesnt help that I have to stare at it for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. they parked it right in the service drive at my work. those pictures dont do the paint justice. its a beautiful car.

You'll miss the Z28 but you'd also never regret buying a Corvette. That looks like a nice FRC, my buddy has a black one. Plenty of time for being responsible when you're old you know.

Dude....@ 21 years old... i'd get the vette....enjoy driving it .....and enjoy ALL of the college age panties it will drop!!:pimp:

right now the only CON I can come up with for trading the camaro for this vette is not having T-tops :bang:

Get the vette. It looks awesome. Your payments arent even gonna go up, so you dont have a reason not to get it. There is no way i would pass that up.

theres an upside to it if you get the vette you will for sure no longer be single haha

^ haha. true. I am not saying I am good with the ladies (cuz im not), but I like being single. I am gonna call my insurance agent in the morning and see what the difference would be. if its less than $30 a month difference, I will probably get it.

anyone know from experience of what the difference in insurance would be going from a camaro to a corvette? all I want is a rough estimate or idea

Get it!! Vettes a 6 spd too nice

I have both.. im young like you..insurance isnt that much of a difference like you think it would be or should be. Ive even heard ppl say they actually pay cheaper for their corvette (c5 non zo6) than their camaro. GO FOR IT! I personally love my Corvette way more than my Camaro. Most ppl say you will miss it but let me tell you my Camaro just sits and collects dust with occasional driving lol

I've never cared much for the look of any C5 (can't stand the rear), but the FRC/Z06 style looks the worst, IMO.

If it were me, I'd keep your Camaro until you can swing a C6. C6 is the only modern coupe that looks better than an F-body, IMO.

GM really nailed it with the C6. Might be the best looking sports car ever.

Get the vette. It looks clean and you will enjoy it more. I will say however to do your homework.
1. Check the rocker panels for any cracks or marks.
2. Check below the front bumper the radiator supports.....make sure they arent cracked as well.
3. Check the clutch fluid reservoir to make sure its clean
4. Check the DIC.
Turn the key to the ON position, but don't start the engine. Clear any present messages by pressing the RESET button. Hold the OPTIONS button down, and press the FUEL button 4 times. This will get you into the CODES section of the DIC. The computer will automatically display all the codes your car has created. It will cycle through each code every 3 seconds. Any code that ends in H is a history code (something that has occured in the past) but is fine now. Once the computer has finished going through all of it's codes, press RESET to enter Manual Configuration mode. It should start with a module and show "NO CODES" or "# CODES".

To optionally reset the codes once in manual mode, press and hold RESET until it displays "NO CODES". Press OPTIONS to go to the next module. Repeat the steps in this paragraph until you have reset the codes in all the computer modules. NOTE !! Only reset the codes IF you want to - it is NOT necessary to do this.



CODE LIST

10-PCM - Powertrain Control Module
P0101 Mass Air Flow (MAF) System Performance
P0102 Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor Circuit Low Frequency
P0103 Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor Circuit High Frequency
P0107 Manifold Pressure (MAP) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
P0108 Manifold Pressure (MAP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage
P0112 Intake Air Temp (IAT) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
P0113 Intake Air Temp (IAT) Sensor Circuit High Voltage
P0117 Engine Coolant Temp (ECT) Sensor Low Voltage
P0118 Engine Coolant Temp (ECT) Sensor High Voltage
P0118 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Excessive Time to Closed Loop Fuel Control
P0131 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Low Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 1
P0132 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit High Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 1
P0133 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Slow Response Bank 1 Sensor 1
P0134 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Insufficient Activity Bank 1 Sensor 1
P0135 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 1
P0137 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Low Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 2
P0138 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit High Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 2
P0140 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Insufficient Activity Bank 1 Sensor 2
P0141 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 2
P0151 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Low Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1
P0152 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit High Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1
P0153 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Slow Response Bank 2 Sensor 1
P0154 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Insufficient Activity Bank 2 Sensor 1
P0155 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater Circuit Bank 2 Sensor 1
P0157 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Low Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 2
P0158 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit High Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 2
P0160 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Insufficient Activity Bank 2 Sensor 2
P0161 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater Circuit Bank 2 Sensor 2
P0171 Fuel Trim System Lean Bank 1
P0172 Fuel Trim System Rich Bank 1
P0174 Fuel Trim System Lean Bank 2
P0175 Fuel Trim System Rich Bank 2
P0230 Fuel Pump Control Circuit
P0300 Engine Misfire Detected
P0325 Knock Sensor (KS) System
P0327 Knock Sensor (KS) Circuit Front
P0332 Knock Sensor (KS) Circuit Rear
P0335 CKP Sensor Circuit
P0336 CKP Sensor Circuit Performance
P0341 CMP Circuit Performance
P0342 CMP Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
P0343 CMP Sensor Circuit High Voltage
P0351 Ignition Control #1 Circuit
P0352 Ignition Control #2 Circuit
P0353 Ignition Control #3 Circuit
P0354 Ignition Control #4 Circuit
P0355 Ignition Control #5 Circuit
P0356 Ignition Control #6 Circuit
P0357 Ignition Control #7 Circuit
P0358 Ignition Control #8 Circuit
P0410 AIR System
P0412 AIR Solenoid Relay Control Circuit
P0418 AIR Pump Relay Control Circuit
P0420 TWC System Low Efficiency Bank 1
P0430 TWC System Low Efficiency Bank 2
P0441 EVAP System No Flow During Purge
P0461 Fuel Level Sensor 1 Circuit Performance
P0462 Fuel Level Sensor 1 Circuit Low Voltage
P0463 Fuel Level Sensor 1 Circuit High Voltage
P0480 FC Relay 1 Control Circuit
P0481 FC Relay 2 and 3 Control Circuit
P0500 VSS Circuit (M/T)
P0506 Idle Speed Low
P0507 Idle Speed High
P0522 Engine Oil Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
P0523 Engine Oil Pressure Sensor Circuit High Voltage
P0530 A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Circuit
P0562 System Voltage Low
P0563 System Voltage High
P0567 Cruise Resume Circuit
P0568 Cruise Set Circuit
P0571 Cruise Brake Switch Circuit (M/T)
P0601 PCM Memory
P0602 PCM Not Programmed
P0604 PCM RAM Performance
P0606 PCM Internal Communication Interrupted
P0608 VSS Output Circuit
P0650 MIL Control Circuit
P0654 Engine Speed Output Circuit
P0704 Clutch Switch Circuit (M/T)
P0705 Transmission Range Switch Circuit (A/T)
P0706 Transmission Range Switch Performance (A/T)
P0801 Reverse Inhibit Solenoid Control Circuit (M/T)
P0803 1-4 Upshift Solenoid Control Circuit (M/T)
P0804 1-4 Upshift Lamp Control Circuit (M/T)
P1111 Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor Circuit Intermittent High Voltage
P1112 Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor Circuit Intermittent Low Voltage
P1114 ECT Sensor Circuit Intermittent Low Voltage
P1115 ECT Sensor Circuit Intermittent High Voltage
P1120 TP Sensor 1 Circuit
P1125 APP System
P1133 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Insufficient Switching Bank 1 Sensor 1
P1134 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Transition Time Ratio Bank 1 Sensor 1
P1153 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Insufficient Switching Bank 2 Sensor 1
P1154 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Transition Time Ratio Bank 2 Sensor 1
P1220 TP Sensor 2 Circuit
P1221 TP Sensors 1, 2 Performance
P1258 Engine Coolant Over Temperature-Fuel Disabled
P1275 APP Sensor 1 Circuit
P1276 APP Sensor 1 Circuit Performance
P1280 APP Sensor 2 Circuit
P1281 APP Sensor 2 Circuit Performance
P1285 APP Sensor 3 Circuit
P1286 APP Sensor 3 Circuit Performance
P1380 EB (T) CM DTC Detected- Rough Road Data Unusable
P1381 Misfire Detected - No EB (T) CM/PCM Serial Data
P1415 AIR System Bank 1
P1416 AIR System Bank 2
P1431 Fuel Level Sensor 2 Circuit Performance
P1432 Fuel Level Sensor 2 Low Voltage
P1433 Fuel Level Sensor 2 High Voltage
P1441 Evaporative Emissions (EVAP) System Flow During Non-Purge
P1514 TAC System MAF Performance
P1515 Command vs Actual Throttle Position Performance (PCM Module)
P1516 Command vs Actual Throttle Position Performance (TAC Module)
P1517 TAC Module Processor
P1518 PCM to TAC Module Serial Data Circuit
P1539 A/C Clutch Status Circuit High Voltage
P1545 A/C Clutch Relay Control Circuit
P1546 A/C Clutch Status Circuit Low Voltage
P1571 ASR Desired Torque
P1574 Stop Lamp Control Circuit
P1575 Extended Travel Brake Switch Circuit High Voltage
P1626 Theft Deterrent System Fuel Enable Circuit
P1630 Theft Deterrent System PCM In Learn Mode
P1631 Theft Deterrent System Password Incorrect
P1635 5 Volt Reference #1 Circuit
P1639 5 Volt Reference #2 Circuit
P1644 Delivered Torque Output Circuit
P1652 Powertrain Induced Chassis Pitch Output Circuit

continued....


28-TCS - Traction Control System
C1214 Sol Valve Relay Contact or Coil CKT Open
C1217 BPMV Pump Motor Relay Contact CKT Open
C1221 LF Wheel Speed Sensor Input Signal is 0
C1222 RF Wheel Speed Sensor Input Signal is 0
C1223 LR Wheel Speed Sensor Input Signal is 0
C1224 RR Wheel Speed Sensor Input Signal is 0
C1225 RF Excessive Wheel Speed Variation
C1226 LF Excessive Wheel Speed Variation
C1227 LR Excessive Wheel Speed Variation
C1228 RR Excessive Wheel Speed Variation
C1232 LF Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted
C1233 RF Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted
C1234 LR Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted
C1235 RR Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted
C1236 Low System Supply Voltage
C1237 High System Supply Voltage
C1241 Magna Steer Circuit Malfunction
C1242 BPMV Pump Motor Ground Circuit Open
C1243 BPMV Pump Motor Stalled
C1255 EBTCM Internal Malfunction
CEBCM Internal Malfunction
C1261 LF Inlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction
C1262 LF Outlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction
C1263 RF Inlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction
C1264 RF Outlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction
C1265 LR Inlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction
C1266 LR Outlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction
C1267 RR Inlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction
C1268 RR Outlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction
C1273 RF TCS Master Cyl Isolation Valve Malfunction
C1274 RF TCS Prime Valve Malfunction
C1276 Delivered Torque Signal CKT Malfunction
C1277 Requested Torque Signal CKT Malfunction
C1278 TCS Temporarily Inhibited By PCM
C1281 Steering Sensor Uncorrelated Malfunction
C1286 Steering Sensor Bias Malfunction
C1287 Steering Sensor Rate Malfunction
C1291 Open Brake Lamp Sw Contacts During Deccel
C1293 DTC C1291/C1292 Set Curnt/Prev Ign Cylce
C1294 Brake Lamp Switch Circuit Always Active
C1295 Brake Lamp Switch Circuit Open
U1016 Loss of Communications with PCM
U1255 Generic Loss Communications
U1300 Class 2 Circuit Shorted to Ground
U1301 Class 2 Circuit Shorted to Battery

38-RTD - Real Time Damping
C1650 ESC Module Malfunction
C1658 EEPROM Calibration Malfunction
C1710 LF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to Voltage)
C1711 LF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to GND)
C1712 LF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Open Circuit)
C1715 RF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to Voltage)
C1716 RF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to GND)
C1717 RF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Open Circuit)
C1720 LR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to Voltage)
C1721 LR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to GND)
C1722 LR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Open Circuit)
C1725 RR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to Voltage)
C1726 RR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to GND)
C1727 RR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Open Circuit)
C1743 Loss of Vehicle Speed Signal
C1760 LF Position Sensor (Out of Range)
C1761 RF Position Sensor (Out of Range)
C1762 LR Position Sensor (Out of Range)
C1763 RR Position Sensor (Out of Range)
C1768 Position Sensor Supply Malfunction (Overcurrent)
C1780 Loss of Steering Position Signal
C1786 RTD Control Relay Malfunction
C1787 RTD Control Relay Circuit (Open or Short to GND)
C1788 RTD Control Relay Circuit (Short to Voltage)
C1790 Ride Control Switch (Out of Range)
C1791 Ride Control Switch (Contact Malfunction)

40-BCM -Body Control Module
B0432 Rear Defogger Relay Circuit
B0433 Rear Defogger Relay Circuit
B0502 RH DRL Relay Circuit
B0503 RH DRL Relay Circuit
B0507 LH DRL Relay Circuit
B0508 LH DRL Relay Circuit
B0605 BCM Internal Memory Function
B0844 BCM Temporarily Inhibit ABS
B2403 Front Fog Lamp Switch Circuit
B2408 Rear Fog Lamp Switch Circuit
B2482 Backup Lamp Relay Circuit
B2483 Backup Lamp Relay Circuit
B2527 Horn Relay Circuit
B2528 Horn Relay Circuit
B2573 Hatch Release Switch Circuit (Short to Voltage)
B2578 RF Turn Signal Monitor Circuit (Short to Voltage)
B2583 LF Turn Signal Monitor Circuit (Short to Voltage)
B2587 Column Lock/Unlock Drive (A)
B2588 Column Lock/Unlock Drive (A)
B2592 Column Lock/Unlock Drive (B)
B2583 Column Lock/Unlock Drive (B)
B2597 Traction Control System Switch Circuit
B2721 PASS-Key Detection Circuit
B2722 PASS-Key Detection Circuit
B2723 PASS-Key Detection Circuit
B2735 PASS-Key Programming Mode Active
U1016 Loss of Communications with PCM
U1096 Loss of Communications with IPC
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction

60-IPC - Instrument Panel Cluster
B0516 Speedometer Signal Circuit Malfunction
B0521 Tachometer Signal Circuit Malfunction
B1512 DIC Switch 1 Signal Short to GND "FUEL"
B1517 DIC Switch 2 Signal Short to GND "GAGES"
B1522 DIC Switch 3 Signal Short to GND "TRIP"
B1527 DIC Switch 4 Signal Short to GND "OPTIONS"
B1532 DIC Switch 5 Signal Short to GND "E/M"
B1537 DIC Switch 6 Signal Short to GND "RESET"
B1542 Oil Temperature Circuit Short to GND
B1543 Oil Temperature Circuit Open
U1016 Loss of Communications with PCM
U1040 Loss of Communications with TCS
U1056 Loss of Communications with RTD
U1064 Loss of Communications with BCM
U1128 Loss of Communications with Radio
U1153 Loss of Communications with HVAC
U1160 Loss of Communications with LDCM
U1161 Loss of Communications with RDCM
U1166 Loss of Communications with SCM
U1176 Loss of Communications with RFA
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction

80-Radio - Radio Not Found

99-HVAC - Heater, Ventilation, Air Conditioning
B0332 Outside Air Temp Sensor Short to GND
B0333 Outside Air Temp Sensor Open
B0337 Inside Air Temp Sensor Short to GND
B0338 Inside Air Temp Sensor Open
B0348 Sunload Temperature Sensor Open
B0361 Left Actuator Feedback Short to GND
B0363 Left Actuator Feedback Open
B0365 Right Actuator Feedback Short to GND
B0367 Right Actuator Feedback Open
B0441 Left Actuator Out of Range
B0446 Right Actuator Out of Range
B1016 Loss of Communications with PCM
U1064 Loss of Communications with BCM
U1096 Loss of Communications with IPC
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction

A0-LDCM - Left Door Control Module
B2202 Left Window Up Switch Fault
B2204 Left Window Down Switch Fault
B2206 Right Window Up Switch Fault
B2208 Right Window Down Switch Fault
B2222 LT Mirror Select Switch Fault
B2224 RT Mirror Select Switch Fault
B2226 Mirror Right Switch Fault
B2228 Mirror Left Switch Fault
B2232 Mirror Up Switch Fault
B2234 Mirror Down Switch Fault
B2236 Left Door Lock Switch Fault
B2238 Left Door UnLock Switch Fault
B2242 Memory 1 Switch Fault
B2244 Memory 2 Switch Fault
B2252 Key Cylinder Switch Fault
B2262 Horizontal Position Sensor Fit
B2264 Vertical Position Sensor Fault
B2272 Left Mirror Motor Fault
B2274 Window Motor Fault
B2276 Door Lock Motor/Mirror Heater Fit
B2282 Battery #1 Fault
B2284 Battery #2 Fault
B2286 +5V Reference Fault
U1064 Loss of Communications with BCM
U1096 Loss of Communications with IPC
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction

A1-RDCM - Right Door Control Module
B2203 Right Window Up Switch Fault
B2205 Right Window Down Switch Fault
B2237 Right Door Lock Switch Fault
B2239 Right Door Un-Lock Switch Fault
B2253 Key Cylinder Switch Fault
B2263 Horizontal Position Sensor Fit
B2265 Horizontal Position Sensor Fault
B2273 Right Mirror Motor Fault
B2275 Window Motor Fault
B2277 Door Lock Motor/Mirror Heater Fit
B2283 Battery #1 Fault
B2285 Battery #2 Fault
B2287 +5V Reference Fault
U1064 Loss of Communications with BCM
U1096 Loss of Communications with IPC
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction

A6-SCM - Seat Control Module
B0846 Battery 2 Out of Range
B0851 Battery 1 Out of Range
B2002 Fore/Aft Seat Motor Open or Short to GND
B2007 Front Vertical Seat Motor Open or Shorted
B2012 Rear Vertical Seat Motor Open or Shorted
B2172 Seat Front Up Switch Shorted to GND
B2177 Seat Front Down Switch Shorted to GND
B2182 Seat Rear Up Switch Shorted to GND
B2187 Seat Rear Down Switch Shorted to GND
B2192 Seat Forward Switch Shorted to GND
B2197 Seat Reverse Switch Shorted to GND
B2605 Seat Front Vertical Position Sensor Failure
B2606 Seat Rear Vertical Position Sensor Failure
B2607 Seat Horizontal Position Sensor Failure

B0-RFA - Remote Function Actuation
B0605 Receiver Internal Memory Malfunction
B2805 No Transmitters Programmed
C2100 Left Front TPM Sensor Malfunction
C2105 Right Front TPM Sensor Malfunction
C2110 Right Rear TPM Sensor Malfunction
C2115 Left Rear TPM Sensor Malfunction
C2120 TPM System Malfunction (No Sensors Received)
C2121 TPM System Programming Malfunction (No Sensors Programmed)
U1000 Loss of Communication Undetermined
U1016 Loss of Communication with PCM
U1064 Loss of Communication with BCM
U1096 Loss of Communication with IPC
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction


Let me know if you have any other questions :)

If you have to pick out of those two cars then i would definitaly get the vette.

But if you can wait then just save up for a C6 as it was mentioned.

I'm biased because i like c5's way more than c6's. So i'm gonna go with...



BUY IT NOWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! haha i know if i had the oppurtunity for a vette especially one that nice, i'd do it in a second.

4. Check the DIC.

:funny:

go go gadget FRC

Get the C5 over the C6 in my opinion. The C6 feels more like a caddy than a vette....however you will have a better block to work with. but....the C5 isnt a slouch either. I would say get the C5, throw longtubes, forge the internals and throw a supercharger on it and call it a day. Wouldnt hurt to go through the drivetrain too. Hell, Get the C5 and throw a LS7 in the damn thing. Would cost you the same as a C6 in the end, but you will have one sick @$$ car :) All depends on what you want.

If the insurance doesnt change a whole lot, I would get that C5 without a doubt.

Its going to hold its value a lot better than your Z28 down the road whenever you want to get something different or upgrade toa C6. It also has less than half the miles your car has and thats another plus.

Since your young, single, and can afford it (if insurance is ok) than DOOOOOOO IIIIITTTTTT.

4. Check the DIC.

:funny:

LOL. I didnt think about that one. Then again thats the last thing on my mind :suspiciou J/J

DIC -----> Its the DIAGNOSTIC CENTER

Yes.....You can check the codes without a scanner.....One of the many joys of owning a vette (I'm partial) :D

LS2 C6s are getting more affordable now, much better looking cars than C5s and a slightly better engine to start with.

I'm planning to skip the LS2 though and move right to an LS3.

Only downside I see is parts cost. I won't attempt to talk you out of this.:lol:

much better looking cars than C5s

Well I guess my car looks like crap

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa66/chadtriche/DSCN0751.jpg

thanks for the info triche. when I was in mechanics school I was an apprentice under a 30 year vette mechanic. I learned a ton under him. all the tricks to work on the vettes are still fresh in my head. I think they are way easier to work on than the camaros. as far as C6 vs C5. I like the C5 more as far as looks. I like the pop-up headlights and their price is a lot more appealing to me.

I couldnt get ahold of my insurance agent yet, but I will definitely update u on what I find out. thanks for all your input

Don't forget to factor in the increase on your insurance policy. you being 21, they are going to tax you hard. Id say build the camaro, you don't need a vette to get the panties to drop if you got GAME!

Well I guess my car looks like crap

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa66/chadtriche/DSCN0751.jpg

It does now that you mention it, perhaps i should take it off your hands?:jest:

[QUOTE=RPM WS6;12845081]I've never cared much for the look of any C5 (can't stand the rear), but the FRC/Z06 style looks the worst, IMO.


I totally agree.. The rear looks really big with those styles :barf:

Is it a Z06 ?

Don't forget to factor in the increase on your insurance policy. you being 21, they are going to tax you hard. Id say build the camaro, you don't need a vette to get the panties to drop if you got GAME!

:D doesnt matter if you have a car or not these days..have a little money, talk it right and smooth these days and your in :)

Is it a Z06 ?

no its a frc. zo6's didnt start until 2001

The Camaro is more practical. If I were you I would finish paying your Camaro off and then save up enough for a nice down payment on a vette. They will only get cheaper.

Ummmmm.........I am going to risk it all and say, keep your car and be happy for now. You stated that you just started working your current job, so I will assume that you are on a budget. Its just me, but I think that for now, you should stop looking at the vette. It will be sold soon enough and your hunger for THAT car will will also gone. Your car looks to be in very nice condition based upon the picture's and the car will soon enough be all yours. I am just saying that with todays economy, sit back and take some deep, deep breaths and stay within your means. Also, if something happened and you suddenly found yourself without a job, you might be in too deep with payments, insurance, school and everything else needed on a daily basis. Sorry, if I sound too conservative.

I'm gonna have to say... trade it in for that vette. I know I would with mine.

I was looking at a Vette..but I decided against it for now..I'll just keep what I have, pay my Truck off when I get back from the desert, and enjoy no debt for a while..:nod:

The C6's are starting to grow on me aswell..give it a few years and they will be down to the price of a C5 Z06.
I think they are way easier to work on than the camaros.
Ya ok..that's a negative..lol

thanks for the info triche. when I was in mechanics school I was an apprentice under a 30 year vette mechanic. I learned a ton under him. all the tricks to work on the vettes are still fresh in my head. I think they are way easier to work on than the camaros. as far as C6 vs C5. I like the C5 more as far as looks. I like the pop-up headlights and their price is a lot more appealing to me.

I couldnt get ahold of my insurance agent yet, but I will definitely update u on what I find out. thanks for all your input


No problem. Just let me know if you need any help or if you have questions. As far as insurance go....if your on your own policy or not makes a big difference. If you are on your own, maybe get a beater to get a multiple car discount:D

Upgrade to the vette...it's time for something new.

trade!!!

My insurance went down buy about 20 dollars a month. I also had a friend who made the switch and he is under 25 and has a lot of tickets and it still went down compared to the fbody.

Being 21 and a single male a vett would be cool BUT im gonna bet the insurance will be alot more!

Well, the first thing I noticed is you didn't mention if you've driven it or not...I would definitely give it a go and see if you like it that much more than your Camaro to justify making payments for longer.

Besides that, I recently was looking through some possible C5s and found that my insurance did go up from my T/A. It surprised me a bit because most people you read about on here had it decrease, so it will be interesting to see what your agent has to say.

If you like the way it drives better and your insurance won't kill you, I definitely say go for it! You only live once. For me though, I'm just gonna wait out the A6 C6s...time is on my side :D.

no its a frc. zo6's didnt start until 2001

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Get the vette you will never look back. I've owned 5 f-bodys and 13 vettes including my current one.

Well I guess my car looks like crap

Obviously not to you, otherwise you wouldn't have bought it. Looks are subjective so you'll never find a car that everyone can agree on as looking the best. I've posted many times that the C5 and C6 Z06s are likely the best all-around performing cars ever built for the money, stock for stock vs any other car. They are awesome performers; and that's not opinion - it's a fact. But there is no fact or fiction when it comes to appearance.

The OP asked for our opinions, and to try and talk him out of buying the car. I'm just doing my part. :) If it were me, and I was looking to make the move to a Vette, I'd just stick with the F-body until I could afford a C6 based soley on the appearance factor.

The Camaro is more practical. If I were you I would finish paying your Camaro off and then save up enough for a nice down payment on a vette. They will only get cheaper.

Ummmmm.........I am going to risk it all and say, keep your car and be happy for now. You stated that you just started working your current job, so I will assume that you are on a budget. Its just me, but I think that for now, you should stop looking at the vette. It will be sold soon enough and your hunger for THAT car will will also gone. Your car looks to be in very nice condition based upon the picture's and the car will soon enough be all yours. I am just saying that with todays economy, sit back and take some deep, deep breaths and stay within your means. Also, if something happened and you suddenly found yourself without a job, you might be in too deep with payments, insurance, school and everything else needed on a daily basis. Sorry, if I sound too conservative.

Well, the first thing I noticed is you didn't mention if you've driven it or not...I would definitely give it a go and see if you like it that much more than your Camaro to justify making payments for longer.

Besides that, I recently was looking through some possible C5s and found that my insurance did go up from my T/A. It surprised me a bit because most people you read about on here had it decrease, so it will be interesting to see what your agent has to say.

If you like the way it drives better and your insurance won't kill you, I definitely say go for it! You only live once. For me though, I'm just gonna wait out the A6 C6s...time is on my side :D.

I am starting to lean towards keeping the camaro. I love the look of the vette, but i am really looking forward to having a car completely paid off. once its paid off, I can dump that money into seriously building it up to make it my own.
I have not driven it because its been snowing lately and im not gonna get a proper test drive out of it in the snow. not to mention I would have a hell of a time trying to drive it with summer tires on it. I am assuming it drives great tho. I obviously would not buy it if it drove like shit. there are no codes and no leaks. tires are newer and are not burned up like most vettes.

I called my insurance agent and it would only be $16 more per month. it would only cost me about $50 more per month to buy the vette. its not much, but its enough to make me want to keep the camaro. the last 2 years of unstable employment has made me really touchy about money.

Another thing I thought about was how much corvette parts cost. stupid things like EBCM's and HVAC modules cost a lot of money when they go out. I remember quoting parts for corvettes I was working on at the dealer and it always ended up costing like $800 for stupid electrical stuff.

I did just start this job and I have been through 2 years of unstable employment. it was tough, but the method I use to figure out if I can afford things is what kept me afloat. I make sure I can pay the insurance and car payment in one week's worth of pay. then the rest is extra for me to save/spend.

right now I am thinking about just getting a nice set of wheels for the camaro along with lowering it and buying a heads/cam package. The vette had the Borla Stinger exhaust system on it. that is still my favorite exhaust setup. I would like to put it on the camaro now.

thanks again for all your input.

I'd trade in a heart beat, but an FRC is my dream car!

there is only one other FRC I would want over this. I want a white FRC or Z06 and then make it into a Ron Fellows look-alike.

Get the vette, any one can have a camaro!!

keep the camaro

With you having to think twice about either keeping or trading your Camaro, I'm with the post above, keep the Camaro.

I have both and I actually like the Camaro more. Corvette can be such a pain with going in and out of parking lots. No clearance really, Insurance is cheaper for the corvette. It's 90 dollars a month for full coverage.

get a vett just not a 99 try 03-04 they are cheap on vetthound.com

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sure no problem :)

Get the vette you will never look back. I've owned 5 f-bodys and 13 vettes including my current one.
I agree!! I have both and its no contest! Vette all the way!
Damn 5 f-bodys and 13vettes.. Damn are you or your manager hiring? lol

I have both and I actually like the Camaro more. Corvette can be such a pain with going in and out of parking lots. No clearance really, Insurance is cheaper for the corvette. It's 90 dollars a month for full coverage.

Thats true about the ground clearance but thats something i can look past. Not a big deal at all to me.

Your insurance is $90 a month?? Wow may i ask who is your insurance provider? Im still shopping for insurance because State Farm is a little expensive which is to be expected. I also have a perfect driving record! I would ask your age also but thats getting to technical lol

Your insurance is $90 a month?? Wow may i ask who is your insurance provider? Im still shopping for insurance because State Farm is a little expensive which is to be expected. I also have a perfect driving record! I would ask your age also but thats getting to technical lol

Age makes all the difference. State Farm is cheap when you're in the 25+ group.

I pay $55/month for full coverage through State Farm on an '02 V8 F-body. I'd probably pay just a bit more on a C5 since it's worth more. I am 30.

Ya..my Z28 is like $28/month full cov through GEICO.. must be cause it's a LT1..lol

right now I pay $100 per month for the camaro. full coverage. the vette would be $116 and im 21, almost 22

today I remembered a couple of things that are wrong with the camaro. the fuel pressure regulator is bad (I think). it has an extended crank issue when the car has been running for a while then shut off and started again. then it needs new O2 sensors. i was gonna wait till I put headers in to replace those.

idk I love both cars.

I drove the Vette on saturday. the roads were clear and it was sunny out, so I took it down the highway for a nice cruise. I behaved. it drove perfectly. nice and smooth cruising. the clutch grabs great, and it shifts smoother than most C5 and C6 vettes I have driven (which is around 100 of them)

If I saw a deal like that on a FRC, I wouldn't start a thread like this. I would start a thread titled "Look at my new Vette bitches!!!"

^ it just shows how attached I am to my camaro

There is a dealer by me that currently has a '99 FRC in Torch Red. 36k mile car. It was parked next to a black C6 when I saw it this weekend. My friend had to point it out to me. I didn't even notice it sitting there since a C5 just disappears in my eyes next to a C6. :) The '97-'99 wagon wheels don't help the car any, worst wheel ever for a C5 IMO.

My cousin got a FRC, its a whole different feel from the Fbody. If i were you with your Z, i'll trade for that in a heart beat. especially with payment being around the same.

I want to find a blown engine/high mileage FRC vette myself.

$116 a month? what is this a 7 year loan or something? Or is it really that cheap?

u only 21,get the vette and enjoy it,when u met that right girl and start making babies,maybe ull be able to buy another car by then and keep the vette to,hard to ride 3 or 4 in vette,or id have 2 of them by now.

Corvette FTW!

$116 a month? what is this a 7 year loan or something? Or is it really that cheap?

I believe that's his insurance payments....

There is a dealer by me that currently has a '99 FRC in Torch Red. 36k mile car. It was parked next to a black C6 when I saw it this weekend. My friend had to point it out to me. I didn't even notice it sitting there since a C5 just disappears in my eyes next to a C6. :) The '97-'99 wagon wheels don't help the car any, worst wheel ever for a C5 IMO.

They looked pretty good on my dime tho :D and only 175 bucks for the rims themselves

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z52/steveo864/IMG_1028.jpg

(don't mind the taillights, i changed them a few months before i sold the truck)

^ actually, they do make a decent looking truck wheel. :cool:

On a C5 though? = :barf:

Whats wrong with you? Back away from the computer right now! Go get that vette man.

That Vette is sexy and clean. If you don't mind having a payment, I say grab it. Then shine the tires and put tint on it. That's all it needs really.

Whats wrong with you? Back away from the computer right now! Go get that vette man.

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if you already didnt have the camaro, i would say pick up that vette asap. but in reality, the vette doesnt offer that much more than the z28. its still the same engine.

the only thing you upgrading to IMO is lower miles and an m6 at the cost of another year or 2 of payments. IMO, either wait for a c6 or c5z06...the upgrade to a 99 FRC wouldnt cut it from me

I have always had both for more than 3 years but I'm going to be without a F-Body until summer. I really love my vette to death and I think you will be slightly happier with the Vette. Make sure to shop around though. There are many FRCs and other C5s out there at killer prices. That C5 you want looks nice but Pewter is the best color;) Mine is below! Good Luck

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/CJDZ24_Z28/ta016-2.jpg

Even though I've owned two Pewter F-bodies, and still have one, I'm not a huge fan of the color. Only reason I like it is for DD purposes, it never shows much dirt unless it gets REALLY dirty. I doubt I'd buy another in this color though.

Ya..my Z28 is like $28/month full cov through GEICO.. must be cause it's a LT1..lol

Ha lmao, that should be a commercial. " Think of the money you could save by insuring a LT1 thru GEICO"

well I made up my mind and said no to the vette. I got to drive my car for the first time in 3 months. as I was driving it to the dealer to see what they would give me for it, I forgot how much fun it was to drive. built auto with a stall FTW. the vette doesnt squat nearly as hard as the camaro does.
I love the raw muscle car feel of the camaro over the vette. I would miss the T-tops too.

Just wait until your financial situation is stable then pick up a vette for shits and giggles.