N/A vs. Nitrous
02-12-2010, 11:23 AM
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N/A vs. Nitrous Going from summer time DD to a weekend warrior. Which build will show better results, n/a or nitrous? Just asking about LS1's, nothing else.
02-12-2010, 11:53 AM
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Depending on you budget.
The Faster and Cheaper way to make power= Nitrous
The Safer but More Expensive way= Naturally Aspirated
(^ Stating the Obvious^)
It's going to take more bolt-on parts (more money) to make the power of a simple Nitrous install but you run the risk of breaking something over time.
It all just depends on what you are willing to put in to the build.
^Good Point^
I Vote N/A
Good Luck either way.
The Faster and Cheaper way to make power= Nitrous
The Safer but More Expensive way= Naturally Aspirated
(^ Stating the Obvious^)
It's going to take more bolt-on parts (more money) to make the power of a simple Nitrous install but you run the risk of breaking something over time.
It all just depends on what you are willing to put in to the build.
I Vote N/A
Good Luck either way.
02-12-2010, 12:12 PM
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after having nitrous on my car for a while i would say if you have the money go N/A. it would be much nicer to have the power there all the time, and i have the bottle where the spare was so if i want to use spray i have to think about it before i leave to open the bottle.
But in your case that might be ok being a weekend warrior, at least if you get a remote bottle opener
But in your case that might be ok being a weekend warrior, at least if you get a remote bottle opener
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02-12-2010, 12:49 PM
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Yes I did say BUILD, but a light build. I got the car for 4g's so I'm going to put 4g's into it. Remote bottle opener is a definate. I don't want the power there all the time like some of you. I'd rather have it very drivable with decent power and when I need the extra power I have it. Already ordered the basics like LT's and 4.10's. And I'm not going to be hitting the button off every light, just a shot or two on the weekends. I drive like grandpa 90% of the time.
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for a small cost you can put a mild cam in the car and have damn near stock driveability and reliability.
something like the cheaTER cam or any other stealth setup.
that way you can run a smaller (safer) shot and still make good power
something like the cheaTER cam or any other stealth setup.
that way you can run a smaller (safer) shot and still make good power
02-12-2010, 01:27 PM
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Why do some of you refer to nitrous as dangerous? With the right tune, plugs, fueling, and knowing when to use it, seems relatively safe. Sure I wouldnt run a 300 shot on a stock motor, but it should handle a 50-75 shot just fine! If run right, it should be breaking transmissions, not nitrous, am I correct?
02-12-2010, 01:37 PM
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Yes I did say BUILD, but a light build. I got the car for 4g's so I'm going to put 4g's into it. Remote bottle opener is a definate. I don't want the power there all the time like some of you. I'd rather have it very drivable with decent power and when I need the extra power I have it. Already ordered the basics like LT's and 4.10's. And I'm not going to be hitting the button off every light, just a shot or two on the weekends. I drive like grandpa 90% of the time.
02-12-2010, 01:42 PM
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All depends on what your trying to do. If your looking for more power all the time then bigger cubic inches or a head and cam combo is what you want.
N2o has it place but is not usable all the time. You have no partial throttle gains from it driving down the street. Where a h/c or bigger cubic inches you have the power all the time under your foot ready to go.
N2o though can make 100hp to how ever much you dare to spray and is the great equalizer so in racing situations it's a great inexpensive way to make big power.
Call comes down to application. ( and budget)
N2o has it place but is not usable all the time. You have no partial throttle gains from it driving down the street. Where a h/c or bigger cubic inches you have the power all the time under your foot ready to go.
N2o though can make 100hp to how ever much you dare to spray and is the great equalizer so in racing situations it's a great inexpensive way to make big power.
Call comes down to application. ( and budget)
02-12-2010, 02:04 PM
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If it were me and you have a 4k budget, get a good heads/cam and tune. That will keep you happy for a while and a good start point.
You'll want to go faster shortly thereafter and you'l get a good converter/ gears, you'll start lightening up the car, tearing the a/c out etc. You may start out with a small stroker 383, 402, 408 and you'll be happy for a bit.
You're gonna end up putting that 150 shot on it and she'll get deep in the 10's and you'll be happy for a while but then you're gonna want that "9"
THEN you will have a descision to make, do I go 9's N/A or on spray/boost?
I chose N/A, got a killer 441 from Cartek and ran mid nines my 3rd pass out. Of course you'll need a new trans, better suspension, tires, wheels, electronics, injectors, headers, exhaust etc etc etc
Then you'll wind up selling your perfectly good 441 only to buy another 441 but THIS 441 can take ALOT of spray and get you well into the 8's, sure you'll need MORE upgrades, suspension, fuel delivery, intake, nitrous, nitrous electronics, $$$$$$ etc etc etc
Now although this may SOUND like it's my experience (actually it is, haha) but we're talking about you here-IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU, never mind me.
It's a sick to to hell my friend, haha 4k budget?? we'll just see about that! 
You'll want to go faster shortly thereafter and you'l get a good converter/ gears, you'll start lightening up the car, tearing the a/c out etc. You may start out with a small stroker 383, 402, 408 and you'll be happy for a bit.
You're gonna end up putting that 150 shot on it and she'll get deep in the 10's and you'll be happy for a while but then you're gonna want that "9"
THEN you will have a descision to make, do I go 9's N/A or on spray/boost?
I chose N/A, got a killer 441 from Cartek and ran mid nines my 3rd pass out. Of course you'll need a new trans, better suspension, tires, wheels, electronics, injectors, headers, exhaust etc etc etc
Then you'll wind up selling your perfectly good 441 only to buy another 441 but THIS 441 can take ALOT of spray and get you well into the 8's, sure you'll need MORE upgrades, suspension, fuel delivery, intake, nitrous, nitrous electronics, $$$$$$ etc etc etc
Now although this may SOUND like it's my experience (actually it is, haha) but we're talking about you here-IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU, never mind me.
It's a sick to to hell my friend, haha 4k budget??
we'll just see about that!
02-12-2010, 02:22 PM
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you can build the hell out of your LS1 motor going NA, but you're never going to make as much power as the LS1 motor you build for and use with nitrous.
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hope i'm not missing some ridiculous variable here, but better results would be had with the car built for nitrous. end of thread.
you can build the hell out of your LS1 motor going NA, but you're never going to make as much power as the LS1 motor you build for and use with nitrous.
you can build the hell out of your LS1 motor going NA, but you're never going to make as much power as the LS1 motor you build for and use with nitrous.
02-12-2010, 06:35 PM
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hope i'm not missing some ridiculous variable here, but better results would be had with the car built for nitrous. end of thread.
you can build the hell out of your LS1 motor going NA, but you're never going to make as much power as the LS1 motor you build for and use with nitrous.
you can build the hell out of your LS1 motor going NA, but you're never going to make as much power as the LS1 motor you build for and use with nitrous.
Thats the route I'm going to go with, but suspension then rearend. And 4.10's, I'm not putting slicks on my car. I already have drag cars and bikes. This is for the street, and if I take it to the track I still want street tires on it. I know there is a big debate about the weak stock 10 bolt, but I'll wait til I break it. Thats more fun and gives you a real reason to upgrade.
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If it were me and you have a 4k budget, get a good heads/cam and tune. That will keep you happy for a while and a good start point.
You'll want to go faster shortly thereafter and you'l get a good converter/ gears, you'll start lightening up the car, tearing the a/c out etc. You may start out with a small stroker 383, 402, 408 and you'll be happy for a bit.
You're gonna end up putting that 150 shot on it and she'll get deep in the 10's and you'll be happy for a while but then you're gonna want that "9"
THEN you will have a descision to make, do I go 9's N/A or on spray/boost?
I chose N/A, got a killer 441 from Cartek and ran mid nines my 3rd pass out. Of course you'll need a new trans, better suspension, tires, wheels, electronics, injectors, headers, exhaust etc etc etc
Then you'll wind up selling your perfectly good 441 only to buy another 441 but THIS 441 can take ALOT of spray and get you well into the 8's, sure you'll need MORE upgrades, suspension, fuel delivery, intake, nitrous, nitrous electronics, $$$$$$ etc etc etc
Now although this may SOUND like it's my experience (actually it is, haha) but we're talking about you here-IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU, never mind me.
It's a sick to to hell my friend, haha 4k budget?? we'll just see about that!
You'll want to go faster shortly thereafter and you'l get a good converter/ gears, you'll start lightening up the car, tearing the a/c out etc. You may start out with a small stroker 383, 402, 408 and you'll be happy for a bit.
You're gonna end up putting that 150 shot on it and she'll get deep in the 10's and you'll be happy for a while but then you're gonna want that "9"
THEN you will have a descision to make, do I go 9's N/A or on spray/boost?
I chose N/A, got a killer 441 from Cartek and ran mid nines my 3rd pass out. Of course you'll need a new trans, better suspension, tires, wheels, electronics, injectors, headers, exhaust etc etc etc
Then you'll wind up selling your perfectly good 441 only to buy another 441 but THIS 441 can take ALOT of spray and get you well into the 8's, sure you'll need MORE upgrades, suspension, fuel delivery, intake, nitrous, nitrous electronics, $$$$$$ etc etc etc
Now although this may SOUND like it's my experience (actually it is, haha) but we're talking about you here-IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU, never mind me.
It's a sick to to hell my friend, haha 4k budget??
we'll just see about that!
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Why do some of you refer to nitrous as dangerous? With the right tune, plugs, fueling, and knowing when to use it, seems relatively safe. Sure I wouldnt run a 300 shot on a stock motor, but it should handle a 50-75 shot just fine! If run right, it should be breaking transmissions, not nitrous, am I correct?
100-150hp shot can put a lot of stress on the engine and drivetrain.
even with the "safety" items in place...things still break.
i'd be willing to bet alot more cars have damaged something after a nitrous shot than running all day on a cam.
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Thats the route I'm going to go with, but suspension then rearend. And 4.10's, I'm not putting slicks on my car. I already have drag cars and bikes. This is for the street, and if I take it to the track I still want street tires on it. I know there is a big debate about the weak stock 10 bolt, but I'll wait til I break it. Thats more fun and gives you a real reason to upgrade.
Thats the route I'm going to go with, but suspension then rearend. And 4.10's, I'm not putting slicks on my car. I already have drag cars and bikes. This is for the street, and if I take it to the track I still want street tires on it. I know there is a big debate about the weak stock 10 bolt, but I'll wait til I break it. Thats more fun and gives you a real reason to upgrade.
Your signature notes you already have 3.73 gears, not sure you will see great difference with change to 4.10 - might better spend your money on a set of long tube headers.
Easiest install would be N20 and if you don't get stupid with it you can have a lot of fun with a weekend car. With a 6 speed, H/C combo would be a lot more fun to drive.