Drag Racing Tech - Aluminum Racing Seats, Sit Lower?

I'm in the process of welding in the forward bars (and extra main hoop bars) to make my 6pt into a 10pt rollcage. I've currently got the stock seats in place and have done everything I can possibly do to get the forward bars to tuck up into the ttop. I've even added a bend where it meets the main hoop to get the bar up further. I've got the seat as far down as it will go (power seat) and my big fat head is still hitting the bar (without padding) with the helmet on. I need another inch or so of clearance to be comfortable without having to do the gangsta lean to the side.... :eyes: Anyone else have this problem?

Do aftermarket aluminum racing seats have the adjustability to sit closer to the floorboard? I wanted to keep the stock seats to maintain at least a hint of street car use. But if my head/helmet hits the top bar it's not very safe or comfortable in street use. :mad:

Here's a few pics of the cage install to help explain what I'm talking about.


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/001.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/002.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/003.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/005.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/006.jpg


Here is the bend I added to meet the main hoop so that the forward bars could tuck up inside the T-Top.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/004.jpg

Still retain use of the T-Top access because hell, this is still a street car. ;)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/007.jpg

Mike

I'm in the process of welding in the forward bars (and extra main hoop bars) to make my 6pt into a 10pt rollcage. I've currently got the stock seats in place and have done everything I can possibly do to get the forward bars to tuck up into the ttop. I've even added a bend where it meets the main hoop to get the bar up further. I've got the seat as far down as it will go (power seat) and my big fat head is still hitting the bar (without padding) with the helmet on. I need another inch or so of clearance to be comfortable without having to do the gangsta lean to the side.... :eyes: Anyone else have this problem?

Do aftermarket aluminum racing seats have the adjustability to sit closer to the floorboard? I wanted to keep the stock seats to maintain at least a hint of street car use. But if my head/helmet hits the top bar it's not very safe or comfortable in street use. :mad:

Here's a few pics of the cage install to help explain what I'm talking about.


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/001.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/002.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/003.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/005.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/006.jpg


Here is the bend I added to meet the main hoop so that the forward bars could tuck up inside the T-Top.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/004.jpg

Still retain use of the T-Top access because hell, this is still a street car. ;)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/Bowties4evr/8%20point%20rollcage%20install/02-05-10/007.jpg

Mike

head room is always an issue on the f-body.where is your dash bar?.

Most aluminum seats don't come with brackets that will work with F-body floor boards. Madman makes some just for our cars though that are adjustable.

I mounted my JAZ seat directly to the floor board at first and I ended up having to make my own brackets to raise it up a bit. I'm 6' 1" and I felt like a dwarf with them sitting all the way down.

Cage looks good BTW

i was going to put mine on the floor and found out quick i couldnt see over the bottom of the steering column.
ended up welding in a tube across the body and welding tabs in.
middle is for the crotch strap.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m108/stage20/DSCN2182-1.jpg

Most aluminum seats don't come with brackets that will work with F-body floor boards. Madman makes some just for our cars though that are adjustable.

I mounted my JAZ seat directly to the floor board at first and I ended up having to make my own brackets to raise it up a bit. I'm 6' 1" and I felt like a dwarf with them sitting all the way down.

Cage looks good BTW

Thanks, and yeah I'm 6'-1" also. Are your JAZ seats the plastic type or aluminum?

Mike

i was going to put mine on the floor and found out quick i couldnt see over the bottom of the steering column.
ended up welding in a tube across the body and welding tabs in.
middle is for the crotch strap.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m108/stage20/DSCN2182-1.jpg

Seeing your brackets got me thinking,,,, I wonder if I could make a custom bracket for the stock seat and ditch the power motor/slider assembly? Might be able to gain an inch or so by getting rid of the factory slides and lose some weight in the process. Hmmmm, might have to look into that tomorrow.

Mike

head room is always an issue on the f-body.where is your dash bar?.

I was told that if the firewall hasn't been cut, then a dashbar isn't required. I cut the dash bracing, but the firewall to the engine compartment is untouched.

Mike

Thanks, and yeah I'm 6'-1" also. Are your JAZ seats the plastic type or aluminum?

Mike

Mine is aluminum.

Seeing your brackets got me thinking,,,, I wonder if I could make a custom bracket for the stock seat and ditch the power motor/slider assembly? Might be able to gain an inch or so by getting rid of the factory slides and lose some weight in the process. Hmmmm, might have to look into that tomorrow.

Mike

um........ yes and no.
the issue will be trying to get a bolt in there if you mount it any lower.
you can TRY this, ive seen some guys do it in mustangs.
take the factory seat track off get some metric studs long enough to go through the floor and put nuts on the underside of the car. i would reinforce the seat with some flat metal or something. the factory seat track helps give the stock seat a bit of support.
good luck.

I have a kirkey 41700 prostreet seat in my car, and I mounted it on the back 2 of the 4 studs that the factory seat sits on, it put the seat nice and low and my 6'3 head doesn't hit the rollbar too bad not. It's still close, and I hit the padding, but it's not too bad. Only way I can get any more head room, is if I lean the seat back, which would require fabbing a steering column and I'm not at the point that I want to have to do that.

Give me a call. I can get you the seat and seat brackets that are adjustable to suit your needs. My number here at the shop is 225-673-3533.

I'm having the same problem and will be selling my custom Corbeau LG1 setup to fund a set of Kirkeys.

Kirkeys right on the floor are too low, something in between that and stock height works well... been there.

I'll be mounting kirkey's on the floor I'm just under 6'5.

Chad

Kirkeys right on the floor are too low, something in between that and stock height works well... been there.

The seat brackets we have for the Kirkey seats give you the ability to set the height of your seat with ease.

I have a couple of guys that are over 6 foot tall that don't have any problems, BUT I don't think any of them are over 6'4" either.

i was going to put mine on the floor and found out quick i couldnt see over the bottom of the steering column.
ended up welding in a tube across the body and welding tabs in.
middle is for the crotch strap.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m108/stage20/DSCN2182-1.jpg

that is EXACTLY how i did my camaro a few years ago. i mean so identical that i thought that pic was from my old car.

I'll be mounting kirkey's on the floor I'm just under 6'5.

Chad

Believe me you'll probably like them right on the floor.

John, I don't know how tall you are, but I'm a solid 6'3 and believe me, on the floor works for me just fine.

It is comical when someone else sits in the car, they generally can't see shit :jest:

JL I had a set of Kirkeys in a car going back to about 2005...
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/6952145774.jpg (http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewgallery.php?action=viewimg&id=145774)

Mine have been in since 2007, and judging by where yours are located in comparison... you're a little guy :)

As you can see in this picture, I'm not small... and putting the seat on the floor got my head down in the car enough, so that when we finished the 6 pt off into a 10 pt it wasn't a problem.

pm sent madman call me i'd like to open an account and get some brackets for a customer 214 417 2800 i had no answer today
if not there 214 881 4030

I'm 6'2" and I had to mount my Kirkeys on the "butt bar" to clear everything... And all my upper bars hug the headliner

If it were me and I wanted to keep the factory seats, I would cut and lower the factory channel where the seat brackets are.

I'm 6 foot 1 and 215 lbs, is that little? :)

JL I had a set of Kirkeys in a car going back to about 2005...
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/6952145774.jpg (http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewgallery.php?action=viewimg&id=145774)
holy dang!
john, im a short legged guy at barely 5'9. the front lip of my seat is mounted even with the front factory seat stud.
there is no trace of a stud when looking in my car. you have to get down on your knee and put your head upside down to see it.
my seat is leaned back more than others, but it is soooo comfortable.
when i wait in the lanes at the track, i just sit in my car, unless its august.

I'm 6 foot 1 and 215 lbs, is that little? :)

I dunno how you sat in that car with the seats that far up... mine are all teh way back up against the cross bar in the main hoop. You're not that small... I dunno how you sat in the car with the seats that far forward!

Thanks for the business, the brackets were shipped yesterday.

So what exactly is the benefit of the Madman brackets? Price?

I'm going to be putting these seats in soon.

So what exactly is the benefit of the Madman brackets? Price?

I'm going to be putting these seats in soon.

The benefit is the ability to adjust your seat height and distance from the steering wheel, if ever needed. Using our brackets also make pulling the seats out of the car alot easier, since they utilize the stock bolt locations for the stock seats to mount to the floor. It really is for simplicity. I've seen alot of people with an un-braced and unstable mounting of their seats, which isn't safe at all.

Price: $59 plus shipping

Link: http://www.madmanandcoracing.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=144

We also have seat brackets for the JAZ aluminum racing seats. The JAZ seats are a bit lighter, and IMHO a bit more comfortable, but it's really all the same in the end. Just depends on personal preference.

Link: http://www.madmanandcoracing.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=183

If you're interested in more information or would like to place an order, please call me at 225-673-3533.

Thanks
Steve

holy dang!
john, im a short legged guy at barely 5'9. the front lip of my seat is mounted even with the front factory seat stud.
there is no trace of a stud when looking in my car. you have to get down on your knee and put your head upside down to see it.
my seat is leaned back more than others, but it is soooo comfortable.
when i wait in the lanes at the track, i just sit in my car, unless its august.


Those Kirkey Pro seats are defiinitely comfortable. Been thinking about filling a 5 gallon bucket w/ concrete, sticking a Kirkey Pro seat in it with some adjustable Madman brakcets, and putting it in front of the big screen in the living room.

Those Kirkey Pro seats are defiinitely comfortable. Been thinking about filling a 5 gallon bucket w/ concrete, sticking a Kirkey Pro seat in it with some adjustable Madman brakcets, and putting it in front of the big screen in the living room.

LOL,,,, that sounds like something I'd consider doing. Might make a good compliment to the engine block coffee table I've thought about fabbing up, haha..... j/k. :thumb:

Mike

JL, the driver's side seat was pretty far back actually, some folks couldn't reach the gas pedal with how I had the driver's seat.

Huh. I don't have a good pic of mine that shows where it is on the floor... but I know my seat's a MILE back farther then yours is... maybe being on the floor it gives people more of a strait shot with their legs though I dunno.

Your seats look like they're alot farther forward then mine are, the back of my kirkey where it's attached to the main hoop cross bar, is about even with the back of the door opening.... I'd bet they're 3 or 4 inches farther back then yours look to be in the picture.

I'll try to get a pic next time I'm in the garage before I rip the interior apart, when you see it you're gonna be like wtf how do you reach the pedals LOL.

Those Kirkey Pro seats are defiinitely comfortable. Been thinking about filling a 5 gallon bucket w/ concrete, sticking a Kirkey Pro seat in it with some adjustable Madman brakcets, and putting it in front of the big screen in the living room.

you think thats a good idea, ask my buddy gary. he is into all these driving video games. he has a kirkey pro street... cover and all mounted up to sit in. he says its great.

Seeing your brackets got me thinking,,,, I wonder if I could make a custom bracket for the stock seat and ditch the power motor/slider assembly? Might be able to gain an inch or so by getting rid of the factory slides and lose some weight in the process. Hmmmm, might have to look into that tomorrow.

Mike

I've seen that done before where someone solid mounted the stock seat. They removed all of the bracketry, power unit, and made an aluminum mount for it.

you think thats a good idea, ask my buddy gary. he is into all these driving video games. he has a kirkey pro street... cover and all mounted up to sit in. he says its great.

That's pretty funny.