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Easy formula for dialing in WOT AFR by PE? Like it's at 11.8, need 12.5

Old 12-28-2003, 02:43 PM
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Default Easy formula for dialing in WOT AFR by PE? Like it's at 11.8, need 12.5

Is there an easy formula for scaled the PE table to change WOT fueling accurately? Like my car is at 11.8:1 right now and I want to take it to 12.5. I can kind of guess it in the ballpark, but I know there's got to be an easy formula to do it as well. Thanks.
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I am interested as well.
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11.8 divided by 12.5 = .944

Divide your pe by .944 in the rpm range you want to change.
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AFR = 14.7/P.E. This assumes your IFR table is correct throughout the range (cruise and wot) and that maf is untouched and your ltrims are zero or negitve. With a wideband you can really dial in the IFR then you don't have to put in goofy numbers for PE. Once I got the IFR set my AFR at WOT stays within 3% of the programmed value.

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How do you go about dialing in the IFR properly? I just scaled it by 90%.
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Originally Posted by bomax
How do you go about dialing in the IFR properly? I just scaled it by 90%.
I log map, ltrims, rpm, wideband AFR. Idle and cruise I run it a little rich -7% Ltrims. I look a the Ltrims and wideband and adjust the IFR table to keep them negative. I have a turbo car with boost referenced fuel pressure so theoritcally I should not have to change any of the IFR cells that you would be in boost. For me thats anything above 80 kpa (atmospheric pressure because I am at 4200 ft). My combination of 50 lb injectors, walbro 340 and crappy aeromotive regulator does not quite do that. So I use the wideband to adjust the IFR (boost region only) until the AFR is what I want. So I will change the PE table to get a 12.5 AFR. I then do some WOT passes ( not on a dyno), change the IFR until my wideband AFR is 12.5. Now I can change my PE table to say 12.7 (PE = 1.157) and the wideband will show the AFR of 12.7. If you change anything to much in the car (fuel, air, spark) related the IFR table will have to be tweaked. I prefer to change the IFR table instead of the PE. To me PE should always be 14.7/PE = AFR with some correction from the PE vs Temp tables. That probably made very little sense, but its one of those days.

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