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Old 03-05-2010, 08:09 PM
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Default Using 83#injectors HPtuners only goes to 63....

Is there any way around this? I purchased 83#injectors for my car but when I go to enter them into the slots they automatically go to 63#s.
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What table are you trying to make the change in? You should be in the
Injector flow rate VS. KPA VAC table. I entered in your injector size and it worked for me. Did you also do the unit conversion for your injectors flow as well?
The max is 254lb/hr .
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LS2 pcm's are hardcoded to 63.5lb/hr, no easy way around it.
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How are people usually running larger injectors then?

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Originally Posted by Snyper
How are people usually running larger injectors then?
Max the table then you have to rely on other factor tables and/or VE/MAF fudging.
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Originally Posted by macca_779
Max the table then you have to rely on other factor tables and/or VE/MAF fudging.

Im not using a MAF. I applied the 2bar OS. Im having it tuned in open loop completely. Some are saying just simply add say 30% to the ifr vs. volts and that would make the 63.5s 82.5s....
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Originally Posted by Snyper
Im not using a MAF. I applied the 2bar OS. Im having it tuned in open loop completely. Some are saying just simply add say 30% to the ifr vs. volts and that would make the 63.5s 82.5s....
Then just do it in the VE.
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Originally Posted by foff667
LS2 pcm's are hardcoded to 63.5lb/hr, no easy way around it.
Oh, I didn't know he was using a LS2 PCM. I would swap to a LS1 PCM. Seems like it would be alot easier to tune with the correct injector size in the table, rather than fudging other tables to get it to work properly?
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The wiring harness's are completely different.
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Originally Posted by Snyper
The wiring harness's are completely different.
If you got a LS1 ECU with harness and a extension adapter for your front mount cam sensor you are good to go. The only other thing is if you are using knock sensors, you have to use LS1 knock sensors. At the point you are at though, it may be easier to manipulate the ECU instead of starting over with the wiring.
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Originally Posted by HUNTER02SS
Oh, I didn't know he was using a LS2 PCM. I would swap to a LS1 PCM. Seems like it would be alot easier to tune with the correct injector size in the table, rather than fudging other tables to get it to work properly?
would not be easier at all! just dick up the VE tables and your fine with 2 bar.... you may go the high 200s but screw it if it runs perfect it runs.
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Yeah I was told the LS2 ecus dont even look at the IFR vs volts so that doesnt work.
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Originally Posted by brianfromhawaii
would not be easier at all! just dick up the VE tables and your fine with 2 bar.... you may go the high 200s but screw it if it runs perfect it runs.
I think id have to take away not add....if the injector is bigger and the ecu thinks its a smaller injector it would open and close it the same as a smaller injector but with it being bigger it would dump more fuel...I could be wrong though...
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No you add it. by a factor of 83/(your value).
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Thats a E-40 computer for ya.They have a limit on injector scaling.You have to botch the other #'s. For a project like yours the older 99-04 computers are more tuning friendly.
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Ehh well im already stuck with it and used up 4 credits to get the SD setup(which doesnt seem worth it)
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Basically... take the [max injector value] / [your new injector size] and then multiply the entire VE by the resulting number (will be less than 1 as you noted).

HOWEVER, in your timing tables now, the same % will need to be applied to cylinder fill. What was 1.0g/cyl will now be the number derived above * cyl air mass. You will have to go back through your main and idle timing tables and any modifying tables as well.
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this program makes me feel like an idiot. I hate the E40
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Originally Posted by Snyper
... I hate the E40

I think GM did too. I'm not a big fan myself, but the custom OS makes it workable.
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you can scale the whole tune by 25 or 50%. Their a few threads over on the hp tuners forum showing how to do it.


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