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424 rwhp Z28 Camaro vs 576 rwhp T76 Turbo GTO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-TKYrnww-0)

Turbo SS vs Whipple Cobra vs 424 rwp - N/A Z28 Camaro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUYjc8fWPYE)

Turbo SS vs Whipple Cobra vs N/A Z28 Camaro Race 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peaqMexuAHE)

424 rwhp Z28 Camaro vs H/C/I 408 Camaro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcbMUNhOgrk)

My car was camera car, in all but gto video.

Nice vid!

424 hp. HA

Nice vid!

424 hp. HA

BUAHAHAHAHA!!! That's what I said:secret2:

Nice vid!

424 hp. HA

He is a member on here. My car ran mid tens on less boost with the bigs and littles, The cobra has been 10.6s at 128, the 424 rwhp car ran in the high tens on 245/50/16 all season tires lol.

I was rolling on the stock 17s with 275 Nittos, 16 psi on stock shortblock. It's been ran hard for a while now and Idk how it holds together really. I normally shift at 5000 rpm if race isn't serious and 5500 like in these. I'm told higher rpms is what kills these engines with the stock rods.

yeah that Z is running more than 424. He's got to be, as that thing rolls out :D

Great runs man...

16psi on stock short block is awesome but tick tick tick tick... :D

and no way that Z28 is 424rwhp it moves hard maybe with 150shot??

BUAHAHAHAHA!!! That's what I said:secret2:

Lol, yea I was like wtf...car definately is a sleeper though...that turbo SS runs real hard.

:thumb:Yeah I think that thing is 424+150 def gets the job done though!:thumb:

thats the fastest 424 hp camaro i have ever seen

thats the fastest 424 hp camaro i have ever seen

lmao! Car moves out pretty damn good.

Great runs man...

16psi on stock short block is awesome but tick tick tick tick... :D

and no way that Z28 is 424rwhp it moves hard maybe with 150shot??

Yeah its gonna happen for sure. But at least it runs nice and rich.. 10.8 to 11.3.. It's on 93 pump gas, I'm pretty much running the turbo at max boost. Normally ran 10 to 12 psi. But worked way up to just running full boost it puts out which it goes to 16 but does fall off as rpms rise. It's just a 67mm, Hoping car will still hook up with forged 408 using my current heads/ cam with a 88mm at 8 to 12 psi.

thats the fastest 424 hp camaro i have ever seen

:ripped:

lol

The silver camaro is mine, no power adder. car just works!!! I recently re-ported my ls6 heads and I think It gave me a shit more top end, maybe 25-35 more hp then my last dyno of 424 hp.

You guys should know that a stalled auto with a 12 bolt wont dyno well. But 424 is what it did.


Go on drag times .com, no wait I'll do it for ya,... look at this cars dyno numbers and 1/4 times......

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-8119.html

480 hp and running 9's, you guys better throw the bs flag.

He is a member on here. My car ran mid tens on less boost with the bigs and littles, The cobra has been 10.6s at 128, the 424 rwhp car ran in the high tens on 245/50/16 all season tires lol.

I was rolling on the stock 17s with 275 Nittos, 16 psi on stock shortblock. It's been ran hard for a while now and Idk how it holds together really. I normally shift at 5000 rpm if race isn't serious and 5500 like in these. I'm told higher rpms is what kills these engines with the stock rods.

Correction, car almost ran 10's on street tire!!! 11.1 @ 122 1.59 60'

wtf was up with the gto?

wtf was up with the gto?

I love the Gto.. 5 psi, video of first race was messed up. In first one he got on it fast and it spun bad. Second time he gets late start and rolls into it. He is running 245 non performance tires. It's his daily as well as my camaro.

I thought that Camaro was gonna take off and fly!

Get a splitter on that thing ;)

whats the mods to the silver 424HP camaro

I believe the camaro is 424hp cause my car is a 424rwhp auto that handles its own from a roll too if you've never seen my videos. Us auto's gotta stick together.

So what does the said 424hp camaro trap?

I'm sorry, but every car that night must have been running like shit.

Head's cam LS1's don't hang with 408 F-bodies, whipple cobra's, or turbo LS1's unless they aren't running correctly.

^^^^you guys watch to many youtube videos, there is more to drag racing then just hp numbers and cubic inches.

yeah that Z is running more than 424. He's got to be, as that thing rolls out :D

You busted me, It actually put down 439hp uncorrected, but corrected numbers were 424 so I thought that was more accurate.

Ya and what does this car weigh?

^^^^you guys watch to many youtube videos, there is more to drag racing then just hp numbers and cubic inches.
You haven't answered my question.

You haven't answered my question.

You didn't read my previous post on page one.

Ya and what does this car weigh?

Weighted it last friday night on a four corner car scal.......3258lbs with a 1/3 tank like I run it.

Car has t-tops and a 12 bolt, its not as light as you think, car did start off at 3,520 lbs when stock. Yes I did some weight reduction, but so has every one else. cobra had fatties and skinnies...I don't

Any car with a stall converter just saved 30lbs, headers save 20+ lbs, I don't see where any modded car is full weight.

I do. How about a 418 ls3 trans am that weighs 3800 with the driver. he is 150 soaking wet. Car has ford nine inch sfi bellhousing, heavy chrome wheels, full leather interior, ac, stuff adds up quick you would be surprised how much 500-600 pounds can slow a car down or make it faster if its coming off. A lot of f-bodys even modded are not even close to as light as yours. Thats like having 50-60 more hp then other heavier f-bodys.

I do. How about a 418 ls3 trans am that weighs 3800 with the driver. he is 150 soaking wet. Car has ford nine inch sfi bellhousing, heavy chrome wheels, full leather interior, ac, stuff adds up quick you would be surprised how much 500-600 pounds can slow a car down or make it faster if its coming off. A lot of f-bodys even modded are not even close to as light as yours. Thats like having 50-60 more hp then other heavier f-bodys.

Thats why I did the weight reduction, I have 3 people in my car and it feels like a mustang gt.

It does add up quick and people laugh at me when I try to find the lightest windsheild wipers possible...molded rubber BTW...LOL

That is why my car runs with these cars. I still have stock rims, but they are the lightest gm offered wheels in an f-body.

Thats why I did the weight reduction, I have 3 people in my car and it feels like a mustang gt.

It does add up quick and people laugh at me when I try to find the lightest windsheild wipers possible...molded rubber BTW...LOL

That is why my car runs with these cars. I still have stock rims, but they are the lightest gm offered wheels in an f-body.

If I gave you my car and 3 months it would be in the mid 9s with no changes to the drive line.. :bang:

As far as the other cars must have ran like shit, I don't think so. I landed hard on c6z yesterday, and was with in 2 cars of a Modded Raven R1. That's with my heavy wheels, t-tops out windows down. I always race with a full tank of gas. Mainly to help it hook and I don't run it under half tank just to be sure it does lose fuel pressure since its twin 255's with no baffle.

If I gave you my car and 3 months it would be in the mid 9s with no changes to the drive line.. :bang:

As far as the other cars must have ran like shit, I don't think so. I landed hard on c6z yesterday, and was with in 2 cars of a Modded Raven R1. That's with my heavy wheels, t-tops out windows down. I always race with a full tank of gas. Mainly to help it hook and I don't run it under half tank just to be sure it does lose fuel pressure since its twin 255's with no baffle.

Just let me drive your car and it will be mid nines!!!!!!!:D

Just let me drive your car and it will be mid nines!!!!!!!:D

I got a 1.47 60 with 6 speed, 10.4 at 128 mph on 10 psi. 10.5 at 132 on 12 - 14. I think I got the driving part down, there is a solid 50 to 70 hp in just running meth and more timing and will cost me a few hundred dollars but I don't do it. Idk something is wrong with me. Also I don't take mine past 5500 rpm, most races I shift at 5000 rpm lol.

Btw those races I was at 100 percent on eboost 2, The turbo is rated to like 800 hp, I had this jack hat in a n/a camaro right next to me till 110 mph.

Weight reduction doesn't really help when you're already moving.

Whipple cobra's generally trap MUCH higher than 122, and you left him like he was standing still.

The silver camaro is mine, no power adder. car just works!!! I recently re-ported my ls6 heads and I think It gave me a shit more top end, maybe 25-35 more hp then my last dyno of 424 hp.

You guys should know that a stalled auto with a 12 bolt wont dyno well. But 424 is what it did.


Go on drag times .com, no wait I'll do it for ya,... look at this cars dyno numbers and 1/4 times......

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-8119.html

480 hp and running 9's, you guys better throw the bs flag.

They don't dyno well? Add a TH400 and watch the RWHP drop by 100!

I got a 1.47 60 with 6 speed, 10.4 at 128 mph on 10 psi. 10.5 at 132 on 12 - 14. I think I got the driving part down, there is a solid 50 to 70 hp in just running meth and more timing and will cost me a few hundred dollars but I don't do it. Idk something is wrong with me. Also I don't take mine past 5500 rpm, most races I shift at 5000 rpm lol.

Btw those races I was at 100 percent on eboost 2, The turbo is rated to like 800 hp, I had this jack hat in a n/a camaro right next to me till 110 mph.

Yeah you do have the driving thing down, gotta give ya that. I'm in your same boat, any nitrous kit for $600 will get me 100-150 hp, why don't i do it , maybe its because i like 2nd place?

Weight reduction doesn't really help when you're already moving.

Whipple cobra's generally trap MUCH higher than 122, and you left him like he was standing still.

To make your head spin. The cobra went 10.7 at 128 with 1.47 60 foot with less mods.

To make your head spin. The cobra went 10.7 at 128 with 1.47 60 foot with less mods.

Looks like he needs more mods.

^^^ your car moves, but i mite have a trick or 2 :secret2:

Weight reduction doesn't really help when you're already moving.




Please tell me your joking........

Love the front end almost coming up on the highway in the 2nd vid

Please tell me your joking........

:lol: +1

Did the Cobra get the memo that he was in the race:confused:.

:lol: +1

Did the Cobra get the memo that he was in the race:confused:.

He's the one that wanted a race, he did have clutch go out in race 2.

^^^^you guys watch to many youtube videos, there is more to drag racing then just hp numbers and cubic inches.
I would agree with you whole hardedly...only except ya'll wasn't drag racing.:eyes: Good runs none the less. Fast cars too :D

:lol: +1

Did the Cobra get the memo that he was in the race:confused:.

He honked it off, turns out his clutch went out.

Please tell me your joking........

Yeah bud, it's called aerodynamics. It's power that matters when you get into the higher MPH.

its not hard to believe how hard the car moves for what it is.. for example look at texas speeds car. 9.82@ 134 with SBE heads and cam with a shit load of weight reduction...

Damn props to the z28...i thought u wer gonna pull the wheels in the one video it jumped so hard. definetly tell the front is a little lighter looking at the gap between the rim an fender when your on it...lifts up hard. What size stall are you using? I have a 4k in mine and it doesnt jump out ANYWHERE near as hard as yours from a roll. But like you said weight makes a difference and I have just about the heaviest fbody u can get.

He's the one that wanted a race, he did have clutch go out in race 2.

He honked it off, turns out his clutch went out.

Awe man that sucks, when he gets his clutch fixed then I would like to see more videos:judge:. Good runs by the way!

wow looks like that z28 is about to lift the wheels.

[QUOTE=Viscious;13002789]Weight reduction doesn't really help when you're already moving.


Thats kind of like saying eating 3 Big Macs a day for 3 months wont make you fat:bigun2:

Yeah bud, it's called aerodynamics. It's power that matters when you get into the higher MPH.

The less weight you have the less power it takes to accelerate. Do you know nothing about Physics?

Physics- is a natural science that involves the study of matter[1] and its motion through spacetime, as well as all applicable concepts, such as energy and force

I wanna know the suspension set-up on the Silver Z! :D The front end is WAY in the air on all the runs!

Both of our cars 60 foot good at track and on the street. I think he just has a torque arm and lower control arms.

Damn props to the z28...i thought u wer gonna pull the wheels in the one video it jumped so hard. definetly tell the front is a little lighter looking at the gap between the rim an fender when your on it...lifts up hard. What size stall are you using? I have a 4k in mine and it doesnt jump out ANYWHERE near as hard as yours from a roll. But like you said weight makes a difference and I have just about the heaviest fbody u can get.

3600 vig.

Awe man that sucks, when he gets his clutch fixed then I would like to see more videos:judge:. Good runs by the way!

I already offered him a re-match, this time its going to be from a dig, after all he did have slicks on the car.

The less weight you have the less power it takes to accelerate. Do you know nothing about Physics?

Physics- is a natural science that involves the study of matter[1] and its motion through spacetime, as well as all applicable concepts, such as energy and force
:eyes:

Air resistance: the opposition of the atmosphere to forward movement; also called aerodynamic drag.

As I said, weight reduction does not help very much if you are already moving. The faster you go, the more the atmosphere holds you back. His car very well may be a ten second car in the 1/4, but cars with 100 more hp that weigh a few 100lbs more should, in theory, yank that car from a roll.

And no, I know nothing about physics.

Focker out.

:eyes:

Air resistance: the opposition of the atmosphere to forward movement; also called aerodynamic drag.

As I said, weight reduction does not help very much if you are already moving. The faster you go, the more the atmosphere holds you back. His car very well may be a ten second car in the 1/4, but cars with 100 more hp that weigh a few 100lbs more should, in theory, yank that car from a roll.

And no, I know nothing about physics.

I"m putting down 150 to 200 hp more then him and if you study the video I don't pull away at all till I got in 4th around 100 mph..

:eyes:

Air resistance: the opposition of the atmosphere to forward movement; also called aerodynamic drag.

As I said, weight reduction does not help very much if you are already moving. The faster you go, the more the atmosphere holds you back. His car very well may be a ten second car in the 1/4, but cars with 100 more hp that weigh a few 100lbs more should, in theory, yank that car from a roll.

And no, I know nothing about physics.

Focker out.

I am now more dumb from reading this post.

:eyes:

Air resistance: the opposition of the atmosphere to forward movement; also called aerodynamic drag.

As I said, weight reduction does not help very much if you are already moving. The faster you go, the more the atmosphere holds you back. His car very well may be a ten second car in the 1/4, but cars with 100 more hp that weigh a few 100lbs more should, in theory, yank that car from a roll.

And no, I know nothing about physics.

Focker out.

The wind resistance between a 03 cobra and gto and a camaro are not that going to be that much difference. You cant tell me if I had a 03 cobra that wieght 3800 pounds with 450 hp and i was roll racing a 03 cobra that weight 3200 pounds and makes 450 hp he wouldnt beat me. The hell he wouldnt. I drive semi too so your going to tell me if we where to roll race if i had a empty trailer and the guy next to me had a full trailer he would keep up. RIGHT I didnt think so. Oh and a Semi make well over 1000 ft lbs of torque. Yes areo makes some difference but with modern cars the areo is pretty much a wash between them.

The Coefficient of Drag on these cars are:
Camaro is: .32
Cobra is : .34
GTO is: .31

Pretty darn close.

Force (Can be measured in HP) = Mass (Weight of vehicle and all things inside) x Acceleration

However aerodynamics can play a big part in it at very high speeds when not in a vacuum.
For example if 100 horsepower would push a certain vehicle 100 miles per hour through the air, doubling the speed to 200 would require two-squared or 400 horsepower to overcome air resistance, while 300 miles per hour would require 900 horsepower. If you graphed it you'd see a parabolic.

Anyway based on looking at the formulas for calculating power needed to achieve a certain MPH I'd say that these cars are pretty equal. Cd is close and frontal area is close. So what's the difference? Only two things left. Power and Weight. In order to accelerate you need to move a mass. The less mass the less power needed to accelerate at the same rate.

Anyway throw the aero shit out. It really doesn't apply here.

Force (Can be measured in HP) = Mass (Weight of vehicle and all things inside) x Acceleration

However aerodynamics can play a big part in it at very high speeds when not in a vacuum.
For example if 100 horsepower would push a certain vehicle 100 miles per hour through the air, doubling the speed to 200 would require two-squared or 400 horsepower to overcome air resistance, while 300 miles per hour would require 900 horsepower. If you graphed it you'd see a parabolic.

Anyway based on looking at the formulas for calculating power needed to achieve a certain MPH I'd say that these cars are pretty equal. Cd is close and frontal area is close. So what's the difference? Only two things left. Power and Weight. In order to accelerate you need to move a mass. The less mass the less power needed to accelerate at the same rate.

Anyway throw the aero shit out. It really doesn't apply here.

Finally some one with some sense and a little know how. Jeez I felt like a beating my head against the wall:bang: Anyway I had know idea what the cd was but I thought they had to be pretty close. Thanks for clearing it up.

:eyes:

Air resistance: the opposition of the atmosphere to forward movement; also called aerodynamic drag.

As I said, weight reduction does not help very much if you are already moving. The faster you go, the more the atmosphere holds you back. His car very well may be a ten second car in the 1/4, but cars with 100 more hp that weigh a few 100lbs more should, in theory, yank that car from a roll.

And no, I know nothing about physics.

Focker out.

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I'm really glad someone who doesn't work at a gas station decided to post and clear things up.

I'm really glad someone who doesn't work at a gas station decided to post and clear things up.

I do work at a full service gas station by the way. We just got rid of the gas pumps this summer. We do full auto repair and had full service pumps and anyway the guy who really shut you up just said the same thing I did but in a scientific way. So whats it to you that I work in a gas station:sack: