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99Zeeeeeeeeee28
03-19-2010, 05:42 PM
I needed to buy an engine because mine spun a bearing. I looked on here and found what I thought to be a good deal. Here is a link to the thread - http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/eastern-classifieds/1243911-2000-trans-am-parts-engine-trans-ect.html. I paypaled the sellers brother the money on Friday, March 5th with the agreement that he would send the engine out on the following Monday. The reason he had me paypal his brother's account was because he didn't have one of his own and he thought it would be easier that way.

The engine was not sent out the following Monday. Tuesday came and still it wasn't shipped. I called to see what was going on and he had said that "a family member was in the hospital". Me, being a nice guy, said that was fine and agreed with him to have it shipped by Thursday. Thursday came, and it was STILL not shipped. I called him again to find out why and he had said that "the family member had passed away". He then said that he would paypal me the money that I sent him back Friday night. Friday passed - no money. I called and got no answer and left a message.

Saturday came and still no money. I called him again and of course he didn't pick up. I tried his brother, whom I sent the money to via paypal. He didn't pick up either so I left him a message saying that if I didn't have the money in my account, I would have to put up a dispute on Paypal. I ended up disputing the issue since I did not recieve payment.

The seller contacted me that night, all upset, and promised to ship the motor out Monday, March 15th. He did not. I called him once again to find out why and he didn't answer. So I escalated the dispute to a claim. Then, he calls me Tuesday night and says that he will send me the money via a certified bank check. He said that it would be sent out on Wednesday and have the highest priorty shipping which means that it should be here by today. Well its not.

I just called him now and of course he doesn't answer so I decided to post this up on here to warn anyone that wants to buy anything from him. This has been extremely rediculous! I am out $1500 until paypal resolves the claim or this asshole paypal's me the money back.

Don't attempt to buy anything from this fool unless you want to get royally shafted without lube. :mad:


BlueRamAir
03-19-2010, 11:44 PM
Real shitty. Hope you get this resolved.

99Zeeeeeeeeee28
03-20-2010, 06:01 PM
To make matters worse, I've put a down payment on an engine for sale on here by a member. I expected to have my money returned by now so that I could pay the rest of the money for the other member's engine but now I can't. I don't understand why there are assholes in the world that do this shit.


collier341
03-20-2010, 06:05 PM
ProSkeetPimp Should've been the first red flag. All seriousness though man, that sucks. There's a lot of pieces of shit in this world.

99Zeeeeeeeeee28
03-21-2010, 12:31 AM
Yeah, you're right. However, I needed an engine immediately and I saw this one for sale and thought it was a pretty good one so I went with it without giving much thought.

Does anyone have experience with these Paypal claims? I filed a dispute first but escalated it to a claim in which the seller has 10 days to make contact. 10 days will be up on the 26th so what is the turn-around time for getting my money back, assuming he doesn't respond?

robsls1
03-21-2010, 06:14 PM
zippo nada zero chance. If he has no cash in the account you will win but get nothing in return. If he has $1 in their that is what paypal will give you and you will have to wait for the rest. He stalled you to get the funds out of paypal so they cant call it back or freeze his account.

This is why paypal sucks! If you cant get it locally or find somebody you know local to the item to pick it up then dont buy it. Nobody can be trusted at all.

BLNLS1/RX7
03-21-2010, 06:31 PM
Yeah, you're right. However, I needed an engine immediately and I saw this one for sale and thought it was a pretty good one so I went with it without giving much thought.

Does anyone have experience with these Paypal claims? I filed a dispute first but escalated it to a claim in which the seller has 10 days to make contact. 10 days will be up on the 26th so what is the turn-around time for getting my money back, assuming he doesn't respond?

Every PayPal claim has turned out positive for me.I learned that you need to file your dispute right away so that PayPal can freeze the sellers account until you have recieved your parts.

99Zeeeeeeeeee28
03-21-2010, 07:09 PM
zippo nada zero chance. If he has no cash in the account you will win but get nothing in return. If he has $1 in their that is what paypal will give you and you will have to wait for the rest. He stalled you to get the funds out of paypal so they cant call it back or freeze his account.

This is why paypal sucks! If you cant get it locally or find somebody you know local to the item to pick it up then dont buy it. Nobody can be trusted at all.

Great. This is not what I wanted to hear. How can I get my money back from this scumbag? Small claims court? I have ALL of the messages and voicemails that he left me.

Thank you guys for the information, by the way.

Martin HD-28
03-21-2010, 07:38 PM
zippo nada zero chance. If he has no cash in the account you will win but get nothing in return. If he has $1 in their that is what paypal will give you and you will have to wait for the rest. He stalled you to get the funds out of paypal so they cant call it back or freeze his account.

This is why paypal sucks! If you cant get it locally or find somebody you know local to the item to pick it up then dont buy it. Nobody can be trusted at all.

This has been my exact experience. Paypal sucks soooo bad!!!!!

99Zeeeeeeeeee28
03-21-2010, 07:49 PM
Well, FINALLY got in contact with the guy. I just called him and left him a message, basically saying that I have all evidence I need and that I will escalate this to a small claims court if the money doesn't show up soon. About 5 minutes later, I get a call from him. He said that he told me that he was sending the check out Friday, which is not what he said originally. He had told me at first that it would be sent out last Wednesday and would BE here by Friday. I tried to tell him that that is not what he told me originally and he just hung up so I didn't even get a chance to get a tracking number.

I hope it shows up tomorrow or my lawyer will be getting a call...

w0259211
03-21-2010, 09:01 PM
To make matters worse, I've put a down payment on an engine for sale on here by a member. I expected to have my money returned by now so that I could pay the rest of the money for the other member's engine but now I can't. I don't understand why there are assholes in the world that do this shit.

I feel your pain man. Words can't even explain.

w0259211
03-21-2010, 09:05 PM
zippo nada zero chance. If he has no cash in the account you will win but get nothing in return. If he has $1 in their that is what paypal will give you and you will have to wait for the rest. He stalled you to get the funds out of paypal so they cant call it back or freeze his account.

This is why paypal sucks! If you cant get it locally or find somebody you know local to the item to pick it up then dont buy it. Nobody can be trusted at all.

A lot can be trusted. But, it's the assholes like him and nubby1 that makes it bad for the rest. Just like the guy that's trying to sell the brand new shocks for $580.00. I want them, but I just can't take another chance on somebody with no trader rating or someone that I haven't bought from before. And everytime I don't do trader rating. But he has none and I'm not taking another chance.

madmike9396
03-21-2010, 09:05 PM
where is this loser from ?

99Zeeeeeeeeee28
03-21-2010, 09:21 PM
where is this loser from ?

Ocala Florida. Name is William Edgar I believe.

madmike9396
03-21-2010, 09:26 PM
oh i though if he was from nc i might make a visit and c what was up but a little out of my territory lol

99Zeeeeeeeeee28
03-21-2010, 09:45 PM
Thanks for the offer lol. I just hope I get the money tomorrow. I just want to be able to drive my car in this freakin' gorgeous weather.

madmike9396
03-21-2010, 09:49 PM
lol just be glad u have one im pimping a 89 celica lol but im on the hunt for a SS or TA ls1 or course







Thanks for the offer lol. I just hope I get the money tomorrow. I just want to be able to drive my car in this freakin' gorgeous weather.

SSmiley1906
03-22-2010, 03:19 PM
Well you seemed to get his attention with the threat of small claims court. This douche bag should be handed an ass beating for being an ass hat. That and because the longer this draws out the longer your car is in my cars sleeping quarters lol. If you don't get the motor out Wednesday lmk and I'll see what Saturday is looking like and give a hand if I can.

Ferg95 T/A
03-22-2010, 04:03 PM
If and when you get that check...you MUST take it and get it cashed ASAP if it a certified check all he has to do is go the place he got pay $30 and get his money back..All he has to say is that he lost it...and they put a stop payment on it! GOOD LUCK

99Zeeeeeeeeee28
03-22-2010, 07:19 PM
Well you seemed to get his attention with the threat of small claims court. This douche bag should be handed an ass beating for being an ass hat. That and because the longer this draws out the longer your car is in my cars sleeping quarters lol. If you don't get the motor out Wednesday lmk and I'll see what Saturday is looking like and give a hand if I can.

Thanks bud! I won't have anyone to help me drop the engine out Wednesday but I'm going to attempt it on my own. I'll let you know how it goes.

If and when you get that check...you MUST take it and get it cashed ASAP if it a certified check all he has to do is go the place he got pay $30 and get his money back..All he has to say is that he lost it...and they put a stop payment on it! GOOD LUCK

Thank you for the information. I will have it cashed immediately, if it ever comes.

Which by the way, the check did not come today. Figures. We'll see tomorrow but I doubt the bastard sent it. :mad:

Tally TransAm
03-24-2010, 09:06 PM
that guy is a winner. stirred the pot in tallahassee for a little and would talk crap about races he lost and annoyed a lot of people. then went to work for xtreme motorsports for a while which is a poor excuse for a shop in blountstown, fl responsible for this (http://www.driven2modify.com/showthread.php?t=22634) little incident.

sorry that happened, hope you get your money, but after meeting him in person i doubt you will

99Zeeeeeeeeee28
03-24-2010, 09:23 PM
that guy is a winner. stirred the pot in tallahassee for a little and would talk crap about races he lost and annoyed a lot of people. then went to work for xtreme motorsports for a while which is a poor excuse for a shop in blountstown, fl responsible for this (http://www.driven2modify.com/showthread.php?t=22634) little incident.

sorry that happened, hope you get your money, but after meeting him in person i doubt you will

Thanks for the info. I have filed consumer complaints to both attorney generals in PA and FL so hopefully that will help out a little. I love how he doesn't answer his phone. It really shows the real man that he is. :eyes:

99Zeeeeeeeeee28
03-25-2010, 07:50 PM
So, another interesting development - I recieved an e-mail from the sellers brother saying this:

Kyle,


My brother has taken off somewhere and my father and I have been unable to get ahold of him to resolve this situation. However, the engine is ready to go. So, because he's not hear to resolve this situation my father and are going to because my account is on the line. My dad knows what parts and engines are worth and is not willing to sell it at the price my brother stated to you, he said its way to low. However, if you would agree to another $600 he will ship the engine to you. Since my brother has screwed this deal up and I would understand if you were apprehensive about sending more money before you got the engine, my father and I will send it out to you and after you receive the engine you could then send the remaining $600. I apologize for the mess this turned out to be. Not sure what is going with my brother right now, none of us can get ahold of him, but this needs to be resolved asap. If you would agree to this let me know via email, I'll be in school all day today, and my dad will get the engine shipped out asap. William is no longer dealing with this, just my dad and I are now. I'm sorry again for all of this, it's neither my fault or my fathers, we just got stuck in the middle of it, but we are going to resolve it.


Sean

And here is what I replied:

Sean,

Sorry, I can't do that. I need the $1475.00 as I have already made a deal for another engine and I need the money by tomorrow night, either from you or from Paypal.

-Kyle

I kinda laughed a little when he asked for an additional $600. I mean really, does he think I am retarded? I know the engine was worth more than what he was originally selling it for ($1000) but once the deal is made, you shouldn't go back and try to raise the price.

Also, I recieved good news when I called Paypal the other night - no matter what even if the seller doesn't have the money in his account, I will still get my FULL REFUND! His account will have a negative balance and they may take him to court over it.

bigj2717
03-25-2010, 08:31 PM
Wow I can't believe they actually though you would send another $600. Good to here paypal is helping you out though

Fatbum
03-25-2010, 09:32 PM
that guy is a winner. stirred the pot in tallahassee for a little and would talk crap about races he lost and annoyed a lot of people. then went to work for xtreme motorsports for a while which is a poor excuse for a shop in blountstown, fl responsible for this (http://www.driven2modify.com/showthread.php?t=22634) little incident.

sorry that happened, hope you get your money, but after meeting him in person i doubt you will

Is this guy you are talking about Jordan?

Between him and Chris it's hard to keep up with their lies.

Tally TransAm
03-25-2010, 09:54 PM
Is this guy you are talking about Jordan?

Between him and Chris it's hard to keep up with their lies.

no this guy is named Will.

99Zeeeeeeeeee28
03-27-2010, 10:13 AM
I FINALLY got a refund through Paypal from the seller's brother. This still pisses me off though because it won't clear until Wednesday which will further extend the time I am without a car.