Street Racing & Kill Stories - S.W TT Gallardo vs LMR TT C6 vs LMR TT SS vs Nitrous ZX14

:eek: That lambo pulled freaking hard on that bike ... :eek:

Lambo is Underground built made 1560awhp But in the runs somewhere 1200-1300awhp

C6 440ci Twin turbo and Nitrous made 1153rwhp 17psi but in the runs 12psi and nitrous..

Camaro is LMR 403ci and APS Twin turbo 1004rwhp

Bike is 50shot

Looks like the races were from 50 or 60mph to 170+mph :D

I really can't imagine pulling a nitrous bike like that

ENJOY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LeZQawQvfU


and LMR C6 (no nitrous ) vs SW Lambo (less boost)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKwd1OBDUGY


And a teaser to a sick video coming soon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8OO6DBjZ8w



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all i can say is........DAMN

sick as shit, love to have something like that up this way.

all i can say is........DAMN

Ditto :eek:

JEBUS! That is all.

Looking forward to the video.

.....holy shit.

oh man.. I would love to have a Gallardo in my stable.. But a TT? DAYUM!!!! That thing hauls ASS!!!

I believe Speed Inc sold their TT C6Z06 to build a TT Gallardo. Not sure if they ever got around to starting it yet...

One of my goals in life is to own a car that is capable of putting bus lengths on a litre bike. :D

holy bikini batman!!!
those guys are nuts tho too much traffic for that sort of thing imo. bad ass vids none the less

Those cars are just sick fast. That's a level that I'll never be at with mine (not that I don't have the desire, lol).

that is some serious money into a serious car. all of them are nasty as shit. pulling on a sprayed bike is no joke. cannot wait for the full vid.

DAG NABIT!!!! That was sick!!


MOOOOORE!!!!!!!!!

1560awhp holy shit!!!!!!!!!!

that is some serious money into a serious car. all of them are nasty as shit. pulling on a sprayed bike is no joke. cannot wait for the full vid.

A sprayed LITRE bike at that. I watched that video of the TT GT making ~990 and thinking that thing was ungodly fast...That Gallardo is even on another level from that thing still.

with 1560 awhp and slicks on a car that could hook would said car bunny hop?

Isn't that the same Lambo that pulled the front wheel at the track and trapped like 169 in the 1/4?

wish my car was 1/4 of that thing

WTF!!!!!!!! Where in the hell on EARTH is a stable like that getting it done like that? DAYMNNNNNNN that's what the hell I'm talking about. Can't wait for the vid!:drool:

Absolutely SICK!

That ain't no literbike either...zx14 is the fastest bike around, period. It eats literbikes for breakfast. Add a 50 shot and you are looking at 8's with almost everything else stock, including the wheelbase - Ask me how I know, I've seen it!!!

Guess that happens when you have close to 2,000hp at the flywheel :eek: :devil:.

Damn, watched it a second time, look how hard they are still pulling at 170++!!!

Absolutely SICK!

That ain't no literbike either...zx14 is the fastest bike around, period. It eats literbikes for breakfast. Add a 50 shot and you are looking at 8's with almost everything else stock, including the wheelbase - Ask me how I know, I've seen it!!!

Guess that happens when you have close to 2,000hp at the flywheel :eek: :devil:.

Damn, watched it a second time, look how hard they are still pulling at 170++!!!

ZX14s and Busas arent much faster, if they are at all, then the NEW litrebikes. They trap around the same MPH with proper riders. The reason ZX14s and Hayabusas are seen more frequently at the track and can typically run lower ETs is because of their wheelbase and their weight. The bigger bikes are typically faster on the highway, but not much, if any. Its usually a rider's race.

But for that to have a 50 shot, i can only imagine how fast that bike is...much less those cars. They were walking away easily. That is one of the most unreal streetcars ive seen. I wouldve been impressed if they did that to a ZX14 without spray. To walk away from one with a 50 shot is ridiculous!

ZX14s and Busas arent much faster, if they are at all, then the NEW litrebikes. They trap around the same MPH with proper riders. The reason ZX14s and Hayabusas are seen more frequently at the track and can typically run lower ETs is because of their wheelbase and their weight. The bigger bikes are typically faster on the highway, but not much, if any. Its usually a rider's race.

But for that to have a 50 shot, i can only imagine how fast that bike is...much less those cars. They were walking away easily. That is one of the most unreal streetcars ive seen. I wouldve been impressed if they did that to a ZX14 without spray. To walk away from one with a 50 shot is ridiculous!

Right, a 1000cc right now can hang or bet (driver) a busa or ZX-14 but they do well at the track for the reasons you just gave and power. The busa, though big (heavy), has the aero's though for BIG mph.

That lambo is just stupid sick... well, all of those cars.. makes that 1000rwhp camaro look like a punk!

EDIT:

Found another video of the race.

This one was a better for the lambo but it seems that the vette was spinning or whatever. You be the judge. I think with a 6-speed the vette would of been a better match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzvXyasBDWE&feature=related

Isn't that the same Lambo that pulled the front wheel at the track and trapped like 169 in the 1/4?

yes it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BwIniaHIUE

That's my new dream build. And all these rappers think they're stock lambos are cool... hahahahaha

The teaser video looks like a really fun time. Reminds me of back in the day.

wow...170 mph in the 1/4 mile?????? street legal??????

We should just all go pack are bags and find a differant hobby...[U]sed to be the stock cars would trapp 105 mph and the highly modded super cars would trapp 130 mph....Now the stock cars trapp 130 mph and well....You saw the vid...

SW is the man for driving that car down the 1320

those things are hauling ass thats awesome

Gotta love Skillet as background music. And they trust in Jesus Christ. Gonna need to know him when racing cars that fast!

Wow....I cant even dream about having a car that fast. Unless I win the lottery theres no way :cry:

Gotta love Skillet as background music.

Skillet is the shit:rock: And I can't wait for the full video to come.

Looks like SW's only competitor would be :barf:ZO VAMP! HAHAHA That gallardo is sick! My chevelle has a third of that power, and I couldn't imagine another 1000! AWESOME!

1300rwhp+ (race fuel) will do wonders! I wonder if this is their stage 3? (1500rwhp!!!)

1300rwhp+ (race fuel) will do wonders! I wonder if this is their stage 3? (1500rwhp!!!)


SW's Car made 1560awhp :devil: but couldnt run like that for now cause the stock trans won't hold :eek:

The car the trapped (I'm 80% sure) Its not SW's car its another underground's car.

Can you imagine underground have another one made 1700awhp from what I heard :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

LMR' Vette was spinning in that race they say hitting the nitrous fast was a wrong move ..




I REALLY LOVE TO OWN ANY 1000+RWHP CAR :nod: maybe one day :D

Pretty cool!

That's my new dream build. And all these rappers think they're stock lambos are cool... hahahahaha


i think you mean, And all these rappers think they're stock lambos are the shiz dawg, YO

If your not into 1/4 mile raceing then hell yea a low 12 second at 115 mph gallardo is fast..

I remember the first night I had my stock C5...Car only went 13.5 at 103 mph a92.73 geared auto) but compared to my old v6 camaro and rx7's and mercury cougar ect. The C5 was fast as hell and blew my mind..

Imagine never really owning a fast car and then makeing it big as a rapper and buying a lambo....Biggest grin ever when they hit the gas....


now to get back on topic..Their is one car out their that can out power the tt lambo's...Whats Killemall gonna say..LOL..

VIPERS....Quite a few 1500 plus rwhp TT Vipers out their...Some of them run 1000 rwhp on pump gas...No BS...

Although if Im not mistaken i think the lambos are dominating the 1 mile events...

Jeeze, the first video at 1:00 into it - the way the bike was running through the gears and getting walked. WOW!

I think all you people need to pull your lips off sw's dick.

You act like LSx cars can't be FAST street cars and also rock and roll in the quarter mile...(look at LOS's 8 second DD-better ET-less power)... you act like an american car can't fuck the world up in the mile.... the ford gt just skull fucked everyone recently.

Really tired of hearing about this dude. Yes, the car is FAST AS FUCK.... but,..isn't it supposed to be with 300K invested?....

Personally,...i'm not impressed. I give it credit but.,....i don't think the car is the replacement for vagina,..which all of you seem to act like it is.




Oh,...and liter bikes get walked ALL the time in south Florida,...by all kinds of cars. Fun, impressive, yes but, not a big deal.

VIPERS....Quite a few 1500 plus rwhp TT Vipers out their...Some of them run 1000 rwhp on pump gas...No BS...

Although if Im not mistaken i think the lambos are dominating the 1 mile events...

Nope. The Supra was dominating the mile events until recently.

I think all you people need to pull your lips off sw's dick.

You act like LSx cars can't be FAST street cars and also rock and roll in the quarter mile...(look at LOS's 8 second DD-better ET-less power)... you act like an american car can't fuck the world up in the mile.... the ford gt just skull fucked everyone recently.

Really tired of hearing about this dude. Yes, the car is FAST AS FUCK.... but,..isn't it supposed to be with 300K invested?....

Personally,...i'm not impressed. I give it credit but.,....i don't think the car is the replacement for vagina,..which all of you seem to act like it is.




Oh,...and liter bikes get walked ALL the time in south Florida,...by all kinds of cars. Fun, impressive, yes but, not a big deal.

if you could lift the fronts on a lambo you get respect from me no matter the price to do it.

Honestly, the only thing those underground cars got going for them is the AWD. Take that away and they are just like any else out here. Love the build specs but those kits in no way and shape cost as much underground is charging, WITHOUT the motor work.

I'll agree with v-series, but maybe not in those words! The cars are nuts but anything with 1300awhp+ putting it down to all four wheels and doesn't have the wheelbase/balance of a econocar (evo) is going to do well.

I love the fact that the FGT made that 253mph run. I can say how many times i've gotten into arguments with local supra nut huggers that swear that nothing without a 2JZ is going to be fast in the mile. Nothing. This FGT got brought up numerous times as it was being built and it was dismissed as junk, no v-8 with whatever turbo's can hang, blah, blah, blah! Where are they now? I'm sure they are working on another 2JZ swap into another S2k and say it only has 700rwhp! :)

But, that lambo is sick... but again, it doesn't take 1300awhp to beat a liter bike and that vette is stupid fast as well... just spun the tires.

obzidian: try this on for size since you seem to think liter and hyper bikes are so easy to beat. it's a SuperStreetBike magazine test where a bone stock ZX14 took on a bunch of tuned/built cars in order to show what it takes to beat a good rider on one of the faster bikes made- and make no mistake, a bone stock ZX14 is slower in the 60-120mph range than nearly every 1000 and busa out there. It's only when its derestricted that it becomes a beast and the king of the streets.

"Modern sportbikes are marvels of technology that can cover the quarter mile in the 9s at 150 mph and almost touch 190 mph right off the showroom floor. As such, when a streetcar is fast enough to be deemed "nasty," the natural question is, "Will it beat a bike?"

A simple online search results in car guys posting clips of their rides "smoking 'Busas" and the bike guys retorting with vids of them destroying any car imaginable. In most cases the bike submissions are believable, but when you see various 12-second cars walking liter bikes it starts to raise doubts.

Having suffered through dozens of laughable vids of flip-flop clad riders losing to slower cars, we noticed one common flaw-rider error. Although any vehicle requires a certain level of operator aptitude, motorcycles require far more skill than cars. Under wide open throttle you're holding on for dear life, trying to keep the front wheel down while making sure you stay off the rev limiter and in front of the competition. Also, consider that motorcycle engines are smaller, thus needing more RPM to make power and you can see why getting caught in the wrong gear can turn a 10-second bike into a 14-second snail.
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The Contenders

2000 Chevrolet Camaro SS 530 HP
Owner: David Ferranti
Engine: 346 C.I. LS1
Horsepower/Torque: 530 HP/451 LB-FT on 150 shot
Best Quarter-Mile: 11.22 @ 127
Engine Mods: TSP Cam Kooks headers and Y-pipe, SLP cat-back and lid, Nitrous Depot 150 HP kit, ported TB, Fast Toys Ram Air prediction: I'll up the nitrous and see what happens!

2003 Ford Mustang Cobra 615 HP
Owner: Sekani Smith
Engine: 4.6L 32 Valve Supercharged V8
Horsepower/Torque: 615 HP/567 LB-FT on pump gas
Best Quarter-Mile: 11.01 @ 130
Engine Mods: Whipple 2.3 Supercharger, Iron block, forged rotating assembly, ARP hardware, ported heads, Ford GT cams prediction: I walk 600s all day, so we'll find out.

2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 675 HP
Owner: Jon Foster
Engine: 402 C.I. LSX based engine
Horsepower/Torque : 675 HP/611 LB-FT
Best Quarter Mile: 10.5 @ 137 (traction limited)
Engine Mods: Dragonslayer crank, Compstar rods, Mahle pistons, custom blower cam. Has a Procharger D1SC supercharger @ 9lbs of boost. Stock heads and intake manifold, tuned by Nick at NewtechPerformance.com
prediction: I've beat several bikes already. Bring it!

2009 Kawasaki ZX-14 169 HP
A stock ZX-14 is good for 9.73 @ 147.1 in the quarter-mile on its way to a limited top speed of 186 mph. While it's truly a toss-up between the big 14, a 'Busa or any of the new liter bikes in terms of performance, you just can't fault the 14's ultra-stable chassis or the big pull of its 1352cc motor.
Rider: Justin Fivella
Engine: 1352cc inline four
Horsepower/Torque: : 168.9 HP/ 104 LB-FT
Best Quarter Mile: 9.73 @ 147.1
Engine Mods: Stock

1998 Dodge Viper 950 HP
Owner: Darius Khashabi
Engine: 488" twin turbo V10,
Horsepower/Torque: 950 HP/895 LB-FT at 15psi on C16
Best Quarter Mile: 10.7 @ 141 mph
Engine Mods: Heffner Performance Twin Turbo Kit, Borla exhaust
prediction: On my race gas tune I'll walk any bike out there.

2000 Acura Integra 536 HP
Name: Danny Marroquin
Engine: k24a2/k20
Horsepower/Torque: 536 HP/387LB-FT at 22psi on E85
Best Quarter Mile: 10.8 @ 127 mph
Engine Mods: Full race GT3582r turbo kit,1000cc injectors, dual walbro 255 fuel pumps, 750 HP precision intercooler, 3" downpipe
prediction: I think I'm gonna get walked.
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The Main Event
With the players gathered it was finally time to get on it. While you might assume we'd test 0-60 sprints, quarter-mile times or maybe even top speed-you'd be wrong. Instead, we decided we'd keep it more akin to modern-day street racing and go from a roll. That's right, many non-sanctioned "races" take place from a rolling start, thus eliminating the skill needed to launch from a dig.

It's true, some might call roll racing weak-sauce, but no matter how you cut the cake, it's the most common form of racing these days. We decided a 60-120 pull would be an ideal compromise. Starting from anything slower would hinder the traction-limited high-powered cars and ending any faster would hurt the less powerful vehicles. The addition of timing equipment added a scientific element to the races, which normally isn't a part of the underground race scene but was important to our results page...


Round 1
ZX-14 vs. Integra
The Acura's 60-120 mph pull was anything but calm as it suffered severe wheel spin. With a powerband like a light switch and small street tires it didn't hook until nearly 100, but from 100-120 (when traction wasn't an issue) the Integra began to stretch its legs. Still, the ZX-14 beat the traction-limited Integra by over 15 car lengths.

Round 2
ZX-14 vs. Camaro
Next up was the '00 SS Camaro, which hit hard with a big nitrous shot and 5.7L engine. The SS was fast but still not enough for the Kawi, losing by a similar length as the Acura.

Round 3
ZX-14 vs. Mustang
With a lumpy idle from the big cams and a serious howl from the blower, the '03 Cobra was no joke from a roll. Despite the wide rear meats it still had some traction issues from the hit. But even so, the Kawi still beat the Mustang by 10 cars.

Round 4
ZX-14 vs. Corvette
Despite the massive drag radials on the Z06, traction was still hit or miss depending on the road surface. However, without too much wheel spin the 'Vette rolled into boost and flexed its muscles. In-gear acceleration wasn't far behind the Kawi's, but with each shift the 'Vette fell back. In the end it was close, but the ZX-14 still nailed 120 about 5 cars in front of the 'Vette...A little too close for comfort.

Final Round
ZX-14 vs. Viper
Last up was the twin-turbo Viper, which all were unsure if the stock ZX-14 would beat. With 1000 horses under the right foot even the 335-series tires out back didn't stand a chance until nearly 90, which cost the Viper some serious time.

Its pull from a Benjamin upward was simply scary. The faster the speeds the harder the Viper pulled, but in the sprint to 120 the Kawi still nipped the Viper for the win. Judging by the Viper's power though, had we raced to higher speeds the tables likely would've turned.

Shit Happens
Unfortunately after just one pull the Viper went home on a flatbed. Things break when you've got nearly 1000 HP and the transmission took the hit that day.

Pay-Up
The bike prevailed, just as we'd thought. Despite an opposition of nearly 3000 HP, the almighty ZX-14 showed the four-wheelers nothing but taillight. Under different circumstances perhaps the Viper or 'Vette might have bettered the big Kawi, but then again, this was "run what you brung, no excuses."

While it's possible to build a car that can beat a bike, it certainly takes more than a buck. Our stock ZX-14 cost a tick over $12,000, while the Viper has nearly $50,000 in addition to the cost of the car, yet still didn't beat the Kawi. In the battle for supremacy you can't beat a bike's bang for the buck.

here is a graph of another comparison of liter bike and hyper bikes in showroom stock conditions. The Hennessey GT1000 Ford GT was having blow off valve issues and was only putting out 800-850rwhp during this test.

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs201.snc1/6832_159696088808_789873808_2582232_2275450_n.jpg

Top Speed: the jap bikes were all computer limited to aprx. 188mph. The Euro trash was gearing limited. Not that it would matter, the two topspeed kings are the Busa and ZX14, both of which drag limit out around the mid 190mph range.
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs221.snc1/6832_159696113808_789873808_2582234_5099219_n.jpg

Cool Vids and Thanks for posting them up! :cheers:

It doesn't surprise me that SW has the SICKEST Lambo on the planet! His builds are just Amazing and seem to lack a budget........also the Man can drive a stick!

I've been trying for years to get him to adopt me, but no such luck! :D

Honestly, the only thing those underground cars got going for them is the AWD. Take that away and they are just like any else out here. Love the build specs but those kits in no way and shape cost as much underground is charging, WITHOUT the motor work.



isnt that an advantage in a similar way that we have over the fwd guys? i mean if anything they have more moving parts to break then we do.

also those UR kits are OEM quality and solid. no leaks, funny sounds, etc and those cars are built for abuse. if you have the money thats what you want to have out of a 1000+whp vehicle. can be driven in traffic, taken to the track, lift the fronts, do some pulls on the highway and take you to work the next morning.

Honestly, the only thing those underground cars got going for them is the AWD. Take that away and they are just like any else out here.



LOL.

Kind of like your car and its LS1.

That's all it has going for it. Take it away and its just like anything else out there.

;)


*Disclaimer: I have no idea what engine your car has; I'm just speaking in generalities.

I think all you people need to pull your lips off sw's dick.

You act like LSx cars can't be FAST street cars and also rock and roll in the quarter mile...(look at LOS's 8 second DD-better ET-less power)... you act like an american car can't fuck the world up in the mile.... the ford gt just skull fucked everyone recently.

Really tired of hearing about this dude. Yes, the car is FAST AS FUCK.... but,..isn't it supposed to be with 300K invested?....

Personally,...i'm not impressed. I give it credit but.,....i don't think the car is the replacement for vagina,..which all of you seem to act like it is.

Oh,...and liter bikes get walked ALL the time in south Florida,...by all kinds of cars. Fun, impressive, yes but, not a big deal.


Only because FL is full of squids that cant ride worth dick.

I ran 10.7@132mph on my near stock zx6r, against a gixxer 1000 that ran 11.3. Tell me that shit isnt 100% rider. He should have waxed my ass...and I should have went quicker with that trap but launching on stock wheelbase aint easy!

Sticks sounds like the only person who knows WTF he's talking about when dealing with bikes in this thread.

obzidian: try this on for size since you seem to think liter and hyper bikes are so easy to beat. it's a SuperStreetBike magazine test where a bone stock ZX14 took on a bunch of tuned/built cars in order to show what it takes to beat a good rider on one of the faster bikes made- and make no mistake, a bone stock ZX14 is slower in the 60-120mph range than nearly every 1000 and busa out there. It's only when its derestricted that it becomes a beast and the king of the streets.

Pay-Up
The bike prevailed, just as we'd thought. Despite an opposition of nearly 3000 HP, the almighty ZX-14 showed the four-wheelers nothing but taillight. Under different circumstances perhaps the Viper or 'Vette might have bettered the big Kawi, but then again, this was "run what you brung, no excuses."

While it's possible to build a car that can beat a bike, it certainly takes more than a buck. Our stock ZX-14 cost a tick over $12,000, while the Viper has nearly $50,000 in addition to the cost of the car, yet still didn't beat the Kawi. In the battle for supremacy you can't beat a bike's bang for the buck.


LOL at the 60-120 races. What a bullshit test. If you want to be fair, measure everything, not some 60mph spread.

LOL at the 60-120 races. What a bullshit test. If you want to be fair, measure everything, not some 60mph spread.



I agree 60-120 :bang:

LOL at the 60-120 races. What a bullshit test. If you want to be fair, measure everything, not some 60mph spread.

Huh??? WTF are you guys reading- those races I posted on the graphs where 0-180mph races! The ONLY reason they did roll racing was to give the cars a chance, not to help the bike. Seriously, name me a car that can pull a 1.6 60' time like a well ridden stock wheelbase Busa or 14 can? And I've seen professionals run 1.5 60' times on stock wheelbase.

...Please... acting like the motorcycle is the one that needs to run from a roll to beat a car ...

Huh??? WTF are you guys reading- those races I posted on the graphs where 0-180mph races! The ONLY reason they did roll racing was to give the cars a chance, not to help the bike. Seriously, name me a car that can pull a 1.6 60' time like a well ridden stock wheelbase Busa or 14 can? And I've seen professionals run 1.5 60' times on stock wheelbase.

...Please... acting like the motorcycle is the one that needs to run from a roll to beat a car ...

Im talking about the first test. And ive seen EVOs and STIs yank 1.6 60's in stock form. Big deal.

And as far as that ZX14 running 9.7@147

Thats a shitty ET for that MPH. Theres modded cars that have done better et with way less mph. This is a car forum. Go preach on a bike forum :eyes:

Im talking about the first test. And ive seen EVOs and STIs yank 1.6 60's in stock form. Big deal.

And as far as that ZX14 running 9.7@147

Thats a shitty ET for that MPH. Theres modded cars that have done better et with way less mph. This is a car forum. Go preach on a bike forum :eyes:

Bikes always trap crazy high mph for their ET.

Side effect of insane power:weight ratio and difficulty launching.

Yea I know that but this guy makes it seem its easy to launch a bike and cut 1.5 60s

isnt that an advantage in a similar way that we have over the fwd guys? i mean if anything they have more moving parts to break then we do.

also those UR kits are OEM quality and solid. no leaks, funny sounds, etc and those cars are built for abuse. if you have the money thats what you want to have out of a 1000+whp vehicle. can be driven in traffic, taken to the track, lift the fronts, do some pulls on the highway and take you to work the next morning.

True, but no matter what, at that level of power... those AWD cars are just tough to beat.

I have seen first hand top quality built turbo kits, and engine programs for that matter, that will easily match the quality of the UG kits without costing as much as they do. Their price is tailored towards high end cars and those customers will probably not feel like they are getting their money's worth if the price was more reasonable. Furthermore, they know they can charge that much, the folks with the money to drop on a LP-560 and want to go TT will have enough cash, right? (Not how I would run my business though)

LOL.

Kind of like your car and its LS1.

That's all it has going for it. Take it away and its just like anything else out there.

;)


*Disclaimer: I have no idea what engine your car has; I'm just speaking in generalities.

I guess what I was trying to say that, though I don't look at it as an unfair advantage, the AWD in such a high end car with that kind of power is going to hook... period. I'm not hating, but a motor/turbo install is a bit different than HOW the power is being put down.

Its a 410ci with a T6 BW S485 turbo if you really wanted to know. :)

Stickies: "obzidian: try this on for size since you seem to think liter and hyper bikes are so easy to beat."

I never said they are easy to beat, however, one doesn't need 1000rwhp anything to hang of beat one of those. Those tests are interesting, but not what we encounter on a daily basis when we set up a street race. Roll on's will take away the advantage a bike has from the line, its lower weight and subsequently, better weight/power ratio. Take those advantages away and they can be beat with not as much power as some feel they need to have. I used to think 600cc/750cc's were fast from a roll until I got the Z. Now, its a whole different ball game and while liter bikes are fast, I don't need 1000rwhp to beat one from a 60mph roll.

Just saying.... Listen, I ride. I have a CBR600 F4i i mess around with but have ridden full bolt on cbr1000rr's, GSXR1000's R1's with race fuel (fast bike!) and one crazy run around the block in a friends turbo busa. (was making 300whp or close to that... stretch, low, 1up, 2dwn, and with a crazy top end rush. I know how fast these bikes are first hand but again, I also know how fast my car is with me driving it and i know what I need to hang and beat some of these guys. A z06 hits 140mph+ with a 200shot or about 600-650rwhp. Do the bolt-on's and that can climb to about 700rwhp which is easily a high 140mph car... with out tall 3rd/4th gear (165mph @ 7100 rpms) these cars boggy up top.

Again, just saying.... you don't have to prove to me how nasty bikes are, I know first hand... but again, I ALSO know what a Z06 can do! :)

Good Lord...those are some wicked cars. :drool:

Only because FL is full of squids that cant ride worth dick.

I ran 10.7@132mph on my near stock zx6r, against a gixxer 1000 that ran 11.3. Tell me that shit isnt 100% rider. He should have waxed my ass...and I should have went quicker with that trap but launching on stock wheelbase aint easy!

Sticks sounds like the only person who knows WTF he's talking about when dealing with bikes in this thread.



Lol... first things first, i've ridden motorcycles my entire life. Owned three, had two sponsors, ridden with some of the craziest street crews ever(miamiwarriors for example), I know a good rider when I see one. As far as your personal example, well congratulations dude on your personal conquest. I've been doing similar things in peoples vehicles my whole life(going quicker then the owners of they're own vehicles-cars-bikes in as little as a pass or two)-big deal.

My point is,..they're is ALOT of heavy hitting cars down in south florida. Hell, bikes too. Everything is turbo....everything. Theres races that go down here ALL THE TIME.... people don't always post about them. I spend alot of time at standing mile events, and the results of them,..all over the place. Not too many 200++ mph bikes out there, are there?

Bikes,...i'll say it again,...are cool,...but, they are no longer the speed kings. Not when were talking about BIG HP cars. If you have never been in a HIGH hp car...and I mean nearing or above four digits,... then you have no idea what the fuck I am talking about. You'd be like every other street bike rider that I have walked up to and called out. You all act like your shit's soo fast.... like your soo fucking quick,..that there is NOWAY a car could beat you guys...lmao. Your all the same. Then I warp off in another demension, leaving you and most of your buds by buslengths.... and your like....WTF?! HTF?!....

Then you understand. Then you won't think so highly of your motorcycles.

note: Look, the majority of dudes, in HIGH HP cars,...can't drive for shit. Ever notice this? So,.. get a great driver, and a great rider,... and the car, as long as it is well thought out,.. should win everytime.

Lol... first things first, i've ridden motorcycles my entire life. Owned three, had two sponsors, ridden with some of the craziest street crews ever(miamiwarriors for example), I know a good rider when I see one. As far as your personal example, well congratulations dude on your personal conquest. I've been doing similar things in peoples vehicles my whole life(going quicker then the owners of they're own vehicles-cars-bikes in as little as a pass or two)-big deal.

My point is,..they're is ALOT of heavy hitting cars down in south florida. Hell, bikes too. Everything is turbo....everything. Theres races that go down here ALL THE TIME.... people don't always post about them. I spend alot of time at standing mile events, and the results of them,..all over the place. Not too many 200++ mph bikes out there, are there?

Bikes,...i'll say it again,...are cool,...but, they are no longer the speed kings. Not when were talking about BIG HP cars. If you have never been in a HIGH hp car...and I mean nearing or above four digits,... then you have no idea what the fuck I am talking about. You'd be like every other street bike rider that I have walked up to and called out. You all act like your shit's soo fast.... like your soo fucking quick,..that there is NOWAY a car could beat you guys...lmao. Your all the same. Then I warp off in another demension, leaving you and most of your buds by buslengths.... and your like....WTF?! HTF?!....

Then you understand. Then you won't think so highly of your motorcycles.

note: Look, the majority of dudes, in HIGH HP cars,...can't drive for shit. Ever notice this? So,.. get a great driver, and a great rider,... and the car, as long as it is well thought out,.. should win everytime.
Don't group me with the clueless bike crew and assume I do not know what I am talking about. I am a die hard car guy and am on my 3rd f-body build with more in mods then I spent on my bike new...which is kind of the point I am making.

If you are familiar with the FL bike scene, then you of all people should know the number of clueless noobs who can't ride for shit there are down here. The ones flying down I4 in a t-shirt and shorts, cutting people off on their gixxer 600s, but those same people end up on a track and run high 11s cuz they cant pick a gear, launch, or shift worth a damn. Those are where the stories of bolt-on grocery getters waxing crotch rockets come from.

It took over 10 grand of just engine mods to make my car competitive all motor. Granted, I started with an inferior platform that takes a bit more tweaking to run numbers then the newer shit, but everyone here will agree going fast costs big bucks. I bought a ~$8500 bike and put a grand into it and it runs right with my expected times(mid-10s NA). This is with simple mods and streetability as a concern...it is my primary transportation and saw over 10,00 miles last year - no crazy gearing, lowering straps, or stretched swingarms.

Kinda blows the whole "bang for buck" thing clean out the window, huh? I could spend under 10 grand total investment on a bike AND mods, and run bottom 9's on motor...and still ride it every day. Hell, a local ran 9's all motor on a STOCK ENGINE 07 zx6! How much does it cost to run single digits in a car? Now, how many have done it with stock engines? Hell, how much did your twin hairdryer setup cost, and what does it run? Not the engine, suspension, or supporting mods - just the TT setup.

I prefer cars, and they are my first loves, but there is no denying that in the right hands bikes are Kings of the Street, even if Joe Blow Highschooler who had his bike for 6 months may not be able to hang.

If you don't agree then you are just trying to justify the money spent on your hobby to yourself. I have already accepted that it is an expensive habit with minimal return on investment, and am not ashamed to admit when someone has a better platform that may technically be a "smarter" choice to spend money...whether it is a different or newer car, an exotic, or a bike.

True, but no matter what, at that level of power... those AWD cars are just tough to beat.


I guess what I was trying to say that, though I don't look at it as an unfair advantage, the AWD in such a high end car with that kind of power is going to hook... period. I'm not hating, but a motor/turbo install is a bit different than HOW the power is being put down.

Its a 410ci with a T6 BW S485 turbo if you really wanted to know. :)

That's exactly why I love AWD...

It's awesome being able to cut 1.6 60fts on AND off the track, using my DD all-season tires. :)


Your engine sounds like it's badass...how does the convertible chassis handle the torque?

Don't group me with the clueless bike crew and assume I do not know what I am talking about. I am a die hard car guy and am on my 3rd f-body build with more in mods then I spent on my bike new...which is kind of the point I am making.

If you are familiar with the FL bike scene, then you of all people should know the number of clueless noobs who can't ride for shit there are down here. The ones flying down I4 in a t-shirt and shorts, cutting people off on their gixxer 600s, but those same people end up on a track and run high 11s cuz they cant pick a gear, launch, or shift worth a damn. Those are where the stories of bolt-on grocery getters waxing crotch rockets come from.

It took over 10 grand of just engine mods to make my car competitive all motor. Granted, I started with an inferior platform that takes a bit more tweaking to run numbers then the newer shit, but everyone here will agree going fast costs big bucks. I bought a ~$8500 bike and put a grand into it and it runs right with my expected times(mid-10s NA). This is with simple mods and streetability as a concern...it is my primary transportation and saw over 10,00 miles last year - no crazy gearing, lowering straps, or stretched swingarms.

Kinda blows the whole "bang for buck" thing clean out the window, huh? I could spend under 10 grand total investment on a bike AND mods, and run bottom 9's on motor...and still ride it every day. Hell, a local ran 9's all motor on a STOCK ENGINE 07 zx6! How much does it cost to run single digits in a car? Now, how many have done it with stock engines? Hell, how much did your twin hairdryer setup cost, and what does it run? Not the engine, suspension, or supporting mods - just the TT setup.

I prefer cars, and they are my first loves, but there is no denying that in the right hands bikes are Kings of the Street, even if Joe Blow Highschooler who had his bike for 6 months may not be able to hang.

If you don't agree then you are just trying to justify the money spent on your hobby to yourself. I have already accepted that it is an expensive habit with minimal return on investment, and am not ashamed to admit when someone has a better platform that may technically be a "smarter" choice to spend money...whether it is a different or newer car, an exotic, or a bike.

If you are NOT one of the typical, clueless riders that you claim to know south florida is full of, they why are you comparing the cost and limited mods NEEDED to make a bike go fast versus a sports car? With your wisdom, I would of assumed that you would understand that you just cannot compare a bike (cost, power to weight, mod list) to a sports car and make an actual case about it.

You just cannot, with a straight face, make a viable argument without sound like the fools you mentioned. (Miami is full of them, just go to the fudds on thurdsay's, you're bound to run into a dozen of them... t-shirts, no helmets with a beer in their hands... yeah, I know the type)

But, seriously, that is just not a legit apples to apples comparison. But, if you want to go that route... without really discussing the initial cost as a bike just has less materials/moving parts/SIZE than a car (less wheels!) thus costing more (Your bike has NAV, AC, HUD, 8 cylinders, seating for 2 plus a large trunk, etc?) my C6 Z06 hits 132mph with intake/tune ($600.00) consistenyly. 135 with bolt-on's. Add a little spray (pump gas) and it'll go over 140mph. A built motor is expensive, but just because you wanted to go N/A, (more expensive) and spent all of that money doesn't mean that everyone else has to go fast. You want to go fast and do it cheap.... a 300shot in a c6 Z06 (good gas+tune) enough to hold your own unless you set up a run with one of the local 160mph+ EVO's "streetcars" :) that like to show up once and a while.

You just cannot compare the two.... with a straight face... you like the performance to dollars of a bike, so do I .... I'm on my 4th bike, nothing beats it... except for my Z06 which is like a bike on four wheels, seriously. It pulls hard to 160mph... go for a ride in one, you might be surprised. But, lets not go there.... bikes are bikes and have to be addressed to a different set of rules than a car.

That's exactly why I love AWD...

It's awesome being able to cut 1.6 60fts on AND off the track, using my DD all-season tires. :)


Your engine sounds like it's badass...how does the convertible chassis handle the torque?

No problems there... actually, my first "fast" car was a 1992 GSX. LOVED THAT CAR!!! Had a 20g turbo and few other home-built plumbing mods. Got into a crash and that was the end of that car but I really see myself finding another and going BIG with it! (T70, built 2.0L, buschur trans,)

The chassis is doing ok.... it has a 10pt cage plus the SFC that really help out stiffening up the chassis.

1.6's AND NO BURN OUT!! I know what you mean!!!

Don't group me with the clueless bike crew and assume I do not know what I am talking about. I am a die hard car guy and am on my 3rd f-body build with more in mods then I spent on my bike new...which is kind of the point I am making.

If you are familiar with the FL bike scene, then you of all people should know the number of clueless noobs who can't ride for shit there are down here. The ones flying down I4 in a t-shirt and shorts, cutting people off on their gixxer 600s, but those same people end up on a track and run high 11s cuz they cant pick a gear, launch, or shift worth a damn. Those are where the stories of bolt-on grocery getters waxing crotch rockets come from.

It took over 10 grand of just engine mods to make my car competitive all motor. Granted, I started with an inferior platform that takes a bit more tweaking to run numbers then the newer shit, but everyone here will agree going fast costs big bucks. I bought a ~$8500 bike and put a grand into it and it runs right with my expected times(mid-10s NA). This is with simple mods and streetability as a concern...it is my primary transportation and saw over 10,00 miles last year - no crazy gearing, lowering straps, or stretched swingarms.

Kinda blows the whole "bang for buck" thing clean out the window, huh? I could spend under 10 grand total investment on a bike AND mods, and run bottom 9's on motor...and still ride it every day. Hell, a local ran 9's all motor on a STOCK ENGINE 07 zx6! How much does it cost to run single digits in a car? Now, how many have done it with stock engines? Hell, how much did your twin hairdryer setup cost, and what does it run? Not the engine, suspension, or supporting mods - just the TT setup.

I prefer cars, and they are my first loves, but there is no denying that in the right hands bikes are Kings of the Street, even if Joe Blow Highschooler who had his bike for 6 months may not be able to hang.

If you don't agree then you are just trying to justify the money spent on your hobby to yourself. I have already accepted that it is an expensive habit with minimal return on investment, and am not ashamed to admit when someone has a better platform that may technically be a "smarter" choice to spend money...whether it is a different or newer car, an exotic, or a bike.



Don't group you? Bitch you jumped in my shit,...assuming I don't know what the fuck I am talking about. I merely responded to you on your comment directed towards me...

..as far as dollar per horsepower...dude...I wrote the book on that shit. It's called "Baller on a budget"... for example...I trade ALMOST ALL OF MY PARTS,...for labor. Yup. Motors, coilovers,..turbo kits... yup... so,.. whats the actual dollar figure in my vette? All fruits of labor baby. Other parts, I acquire used...or they are given to me. My case, is rare,...very rare. So I wouldn't expect you or anyone to have the view that I have of what it costs to go fast,..real fast. I also am in the industry, and I also have some sponsors, I get some great parts hookups,..so when I actually do have to come up with cash...dollar out of pocket isn't as much as,..the average Joe would have to pay.


So,..yes,..box stock, bikes are the shit in most case's...but I don't think inside the box.

Do some research of standing mile cars...what they're speeds are...and do some research of standing mile bikes,..and see what they're speeds are. Only a large handful of bikes are over 200mph....plenty of cars,...all kinds,..are over the 2xx mark...all kinds,..all power levels,..all makes, models, front drive, rear drive,..awd...whatever.

oops! (Trmin8r FTW!) Car has a 370ci, Pt88, th400 @ 800rwhp Car traps right around 146mph. As a side note, a Z06 traps like that with less!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEt_UbNVfrw

At the strip, that was a turbo ZX-14. I will say that maybe that shit was off but that last street race was enlightening, I hope! Bikes are awesome, but not untouchable... especially those 1300's!

exactly.

Don't group you? Bitch you jumped in my shit,...assuming I don't know what the fuck I am talking about. I merely responded to you on your comment directed towards me...

..as far as dollar per horsepower...dude...I wrote the book on that shit. It's called "Baller on a budget"... for example...I trade ALMOST ALL OF MY PARTS,...for labor. Yup. Motors, coilovers,..turbo kits... yup... so,.. whats the actual dollar figure in my vette? All fruits of labor baby. Other parts, I acquire used...or they are given to me. My case, is rare,...very rare. So I wouldn't expect you or anyone to have the view that I have of what it costs to go fast,..real fast. I also am in the industry, and I also have some sponsors, I get some great parts hookups,..so when I actually do have to come up with cash...dollar out of pocket isn't as much as,..the average Joe would have to pay.


So,..yes,..box stock, bikes are the shit in most case's...but I don't think inside the box.

Do some research of standing mile cars...what they're speeds are...and do some research of standing mile bikes,..and see what they're speeds are. Only a large handful of bikes are over 200mph....plenty of cars,...all kinds,..are over the 2xx mark...all kinds,..all power levels,..all makes, models, front drive, rear drive,..awd...whatever.
Reading comprehension is crucial. I never made one comment directed to you. Sorry to piss in your cherrios but all I said was the FACT that a large majority of riders in florida can't ride for shit. True story.

I'm sorry I didn't get the email that this site changed to StandingMileTech.com.

I don't give 2 shits about 200mph and top speeds unless you trap it in the 1/4 :lol:.

oops! (Trmin8r FTW!) Car has a 370ci, Pt88, th400 @ 800rwhp Car traps right around 146mph. As a side note, a Z06 traps like that with less!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEt_UbNVfrw

At the strip, that was a turbo ZX-14. I will say that maybe that shit was off but that last street race was enlightening, I hope! Bikes are awesome, but not untouchable... especially those 1300's!

I trapped 144 that pass, but ran out of gear around 400ft before the end. I figure with a gear change, I should trap between 152 and 155.

oops! (Trmin8r FTW!) Car has a 370ci, Pt88, th400 @ 800rwhp Car traps right around 146mph. As a side note, a Z06 traps like that with less!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEt_UbNVfrw

At the strip, that was a turbo ZX-14. I will say that maybe that shit was off but that last street race was enlightening, I hope! Bikes are awesome, but not untouchable... especially those 1300's!

when you have a chute on your vehicle... you arent much of a street car.

also that race seemed to not really wind out to far. if you are running a turbo bike why not go up to some real speeds.

Not much of a street car with a chute? LOL

Street car is such a lose term nowadays but track rules and slowing down a car at that speed with the runout given > wrecking/dying

Lol... first things first, i've ridden motorcycles my entire life. Owned three, had two sponsors, ridden with some of the craziest street crews ever(miamiwarriors for example), I know a good rider when I see one. As far as your personal example, well congratulations dude on your personal conquest. I've been doing similar things in peoples vehicles my whole life(going quicker then the owners of they're own vehicles-cars-bikes in as little as a pass or two)-big deal.

My point is,..they're is ALOT of heavy hitting cars down in south florida. Hell, bikes too. Everything is turbo....everything. Theres races that go down here ALL THE TIME.... people don't always post about them. I spend alot of time at standing mile events, and the results of them,..all over the place. Not too many 200++ mph bikes out there, are there?

Bikes,...i'll say it again,...are cool,...but, they are no longer the speed kings. Not when were talking about BIG HP cars. If you have never been in a HIGH hp car...and I mean nearing or above four digits,... then you have no idea what the fuck I am talking about. You'd be like every other street bike rider that I have walked up to and called out. You all act like your shit's soo fast.... like your soo fucking quick,..that there is NOWAY a car could beat you guys...lmao. Your all the same. Then I warp off in another demension, leaving you and most of your buds by buslengths.... and your like....WTF?! HTF?!....

Then you understand. Then you won't think so highly of your motorcycles.

note: Look, the majority of dudes, in HIGH HP cars,...can't drive for shit. Ever notice this? So,.. get a great driver, and a great rider,... and the car, as long as it is well thought out,.. should win everytime.

Youre right, south fl. cars aint no joke.

Not much of a street car with a chute? LOL

Street car is such a lose term nowadays but track rules and slowing down a car at that speed with the runout given > wrecking/dying

when you are on a drag strip you can run baby brakes and use anything else to help bring you to stop from speed. not judging the car in the vid, and it may be able to stomp on the binders and get his car to stop well.


but my point was look at the type of car it took to beat that bike, one with a chute on it. i would wager that the bike could be a daily, i wonder if the same could be said for the camaro.

when you have a chute on your vehicle... you arent much of a street car.

also that race seemed to not really wind out to far. if you are running a turbo bike why not go up to some real speeds.

Well my car gets driven 10x more on the street than the track. The reason the chute is on the car is our track is extremely strict on rules. And the shutdown at LMP isn't very long either, I used ALL of the brakes on that pass.

And what exactly is "real speed'? Looks to me like I had the bike covered just fine, and like I said, my car ran out of gear. It's still not all the way sorted out, that was the first pass on the track on anything above 13psi.

Tell me, since my car isn't a street car, what would you do if I pulled up next to you on the street? What would you say? "Hey man that's not a street car, I don't wanna race"? :lol:

And yes, my car can be a daily.

Reading comprehension is crucial. I never made one comment directed to you. Sorry to piss in your cherrios but all I said was the FACT that a large majority of riders in florida can't ride for shit. True story.

I'm sorry I didn't get the email that this site changed to StandingMileTech.com.

I don't give 2 shits about 200mph and top speeds unless you trap it in the 1/4 :lol:.

Your back pedaling.

I trapped 144 that pass, but ran out of gear around 400ft before the end. I figure with a gear change, I should trap between 152 and 155.

Right, there is no doubt that car should be in the 150mph range. What gear are you looking at running? 3.23? 3.07?

when you have a chute on your vehicle... you arent much of a street car.

also that race seemed to not really wind out to far. if you are running a turbo bike why not go up to some real speeds.

A chute doesn't make a car an automatic racecar, and what to you might be a racecar can be a street DD to another... but a chute isn't that big of a deal. A 25.5 cage, yeah. Manual rack, yeah maybe. Race fuel, eeh... know what I mean?

Not much of a street car with a chute? LOL

Street car is such a lose term nowadays but track rules and slowing down a car at that speed with the runout given > wrecking/dying

Right, the term streetcar is used loosely but these turbo LS1 cars are truly a streetcar in many ways. They have enough motor to get where they want to get with pump gas and relatively low boost levels. A standard motor build with a single turbo is simple to take as a DD.

Tell me about it!

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m50/obzidian/20090908-DSC00207.jpg

Youre right, south fl. cars aint no joke.

Yeup!

Well my car gets driven 10x more on the street than the track. The reason the chute is on the car is our track is extremely strict on rules. And the shutdown at LMP isn't very long either, I used ALL of the brakes on that pass.

And what exactly is "real speed'? Looks to me like I had the bike covered just fine, and like I said, my car ran out of gear. It's still not all the way sorted out, that was the first pass on the track on anything above 13psi.

Tell me, since my car isn't a street car, what would you do if I pulled up next to you on the street? What would you say? "Hey man that's not a street car, I don't wanna race"? :lol:

And yes, my car can be a daily.
i wasnt knocking your car in any means. i just pointed out the type of car it takes to pull on a bike. people seem to think its some easy task.

if you had the road and space to do it some people tend to run a bike to some nutty speeds, 160. 170. 180. or what not. some people would say that maybe the bike might have caught up or something. once again if you had the room to do so.

you could pull up to me all you wish, i could use my headlights to light up the road for you. wouldnt be much of a race though.




but to clear up the "street car" thing. in my book if your car cant be used as a daily if need be, doesnt run on readily available fuel, cant idle in traffic, runs no rear brakes, lexan windows, only one seat,etc..... nothing wrong with having a track setup on a vehicle, but its hard to claim its a street car when it isnt used much on the street. ( that wasnt about your car TRMIN8R, just in general)

A chute doesn't make a car an automatic racecar, and what to you might be a racecar can be a street DD to another... but a chute isn't that big of a deal. A 25.5 cage, yeah. Manual rack, yeah maybe. Race fuel, eeh... know what I mean?



Right, the term streetcar is used loosely but these turbo LS1 cars are truly a streetcar in many ways. They have enough motor to get where they want to get with pump gas and relatively low boost levels. A standard motor build with a single turbo is simple to take as a DD.

Tell me about it!

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m50/obzidian/20090908-DSC00207.jpg



Yeup!
I know a chute doesnt make him anything other then a guy with a chute on his car. but some people would watch the video and say " hey look it took a drag car to beat on the bike". I'm just pointing out that while it isnt easy to beat a well ridden bike in a race, it can be done... just that the vehicle in that vid at first glance gives off a non street car vibe with the chute.

is that more cleared up for everyone?


on your second point there you are correct. with todays software and tunes it is possible to be able to build a sick car which can be driven in any situation.

True... for example, my car was built to be a streetcar. No weight reduction, no cutting/hacking the car to bits. Full interior, full sound with 2 12's in a rear seat delete box, A/C! NAV, and the motor has a smaller cam in it now. I can DD this car unless it rains, the windows leak!

But, being a vert and me wanting to race it, I needed certain items to make it tech legal. The chassis is certified and the chute was a necessity which means I also had to install a 10pt. cage. It's nothing to crazy but it does take away from the easy of getting in and out of the car.

But,it's a streetcar with some attitude!

i wasnt knocking your car in any means. i just pointed out the type of car it takes to pull on a bike. people seem to think its some easy task.

if you had the road and space to do it some people tend to run a bike to some nutty speeds, 160. 170. 180. or what not. some people would say that maybe the bike might have caught up or something. once again if you had the room to do so.

you could pull up to me all you wish, i could use my headlights to light up the road for you. wouldnt be much of a race though.


Its not easy but its not as hard as you think.

Just for SnG's, what would you say or do (i.e race) if you pulled up to a car like this? (my car btw)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Nismo1182/C5/1.jpg

Theres no chute. Theres no cage in it. Full weight, ac/ etc.
I daily drive it around as you see here on pump gas, races on pump gas and it sounds almost like stock :D

But it can go toe to toe with a liter bike (stock and modded) :devil:

Its not easy but its not as hard as you think.

Just for SnG's, what would you say or do (i.e race) if you pulled up to a car like this? (my car btw)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Nismo1182/C5/1.jpg

Theres no chute. Theres no cage in it. Full weight, ac/ etc.
I daily drive it around as you see here on pump gas, races on pump gas and it sounds almost like stock :D

But it can go toe to toe with a liter bike (stock and modded) :devil:

i wouldnt say anything negative about it. you have a fast street car.

I see what you're saying. My car idles fine, has all brakes(stock lol), full interior, and runs just fine on pump gas. But to pull a liter bike is no easy task, those fuckers are fast straight off the showroom floor.

I see what you're saying. My car idles fine, has all brakes(stock lol), full interior, and runs just fine on pump gas. But to pull a liter bike is no easy task, those fuckers are fast straight off the showroom floor.

They better be!

Terminator, are you running those times in ABQ? If so, how much faster do you thing your car will be in some better air?

Terminator, are you running those times in ABQ? If so, how much faster do you thing your car will be in some better air?

That video was in Houston, but I dyno'd in Albuquerque and in Houston and only picked up 50rwhp. So I should run damn close to the same numbers up here in the clouds. I'm not sure when I will take the car out on high boost again, but when I do I will post the times. But by then I'll have different gears in it so I should go faster.

Reading comprehension is crucial. I never made one comment directed to you. Sorry to piss in your cherrios but all I said was the FACT that a large majority of riders in florida can't ride for shit. True story.

I'm sorry I didn't get the email that this site changed to StandingMileTech.com.

I don't give 2 shits about 200mph and top speeds unless you trap it in the 1/4 :lol:.


you quoted me,..did you not?

The majority of people in the world are stupid. fact.

Your talking like you know what your talking about but really, your riding a 600. What can you add to this conversation, other then that in your opinion, the majority of FLORIDA riders can't ride for shit?

My mentioning of the standing mile events,...small fry,... is that in this particular style of racing,..it matters very much. I wouldn't expect you to understand that, topping out at 160mph and all.

Rock on you badass little warrior.

Youre right, south fl. cars aint no joke.

Annnnnnd...

There's too much reading for me to care.

you quoted me,..did you not?

The majority of people in the world are stupid. fact.

Your talking like you know what your talking about but really, your riding a 600. What can you add to this conversation, other then that in your opinion, the majority of FLORIDA riders can't ride for shit?

My mentioning of the standing mile events,...small fry,... is that in this particular style of racing,..it matters very much. I wouldn't expect you to understand that, topping out at 160mph and all.

Rock on you badass little warrior.

I quoted you so you got sand in your vagina? All I said was that the majority of riders in FL are horrible. Not one thing about you, or against you. Fact.

WTF does my new bike have to do with it? My last bike was a 10r, and before that I rode an sv650(what a pos that was). Guess what? The 600 does a MUCH better job as a daily rider then any of them...and thats what it is, my main mode of transportation until I install the stroker sitting in my porch into in my Z. Just you saying that proves your stupidity. In the 1/4(where is counts) you would be surprised how little difference there is once modded, but thanks for proving your ignorance. Not everyone roll races or does top speed contests like they are filming Fast and The Furious part 4 :gay:.

You are just a trolling prick with a paranoid attitude thinking that everyone is trying to insult you. Grow up and don't take everything so personal, contrary to what you believe the whole world isn't out to get you :lol:. You can always tell the type, since they are the first to start spewing curses and getting defensive in an otherwise civilized conversation.

Go back and re-read the thread slowly. Congratulations, you made yourself look like a fool.