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Old 03-26-2010, 07:44 PM
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would it be worth it for me to get a set, and which ones should i get(size) looks really dont mean anything they will be track only rims i will be running stock rears with dr's(m/t). which brand requires the least amount of grinding. im looking to get some cheaper ones right now cause i still have to by street tire for my other rims.
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so no one can give me any advice on a skinny front rim?
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Bogarts, no grinding necessary
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i said cheap i cant afford bogarts and im not too worried about a little grinding just dont want to have to grind too much
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Originally Posted by millersta
i said cheap i cant afford bogarts and im not too worried about a little grinding just dont want to have to grind too much
billet speciality 15/4.they were not bad in price.
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I would check jegs and maybe get a set of warriors or knock off pro stars.
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Or if Welds are not out of the price range, you can run the 15x3.5" with a small spacer, 1/4" i believe (not 100% sure on size) and not have to grind the calipers
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I had a pair of of 15x3.5 Weld Draglites with Moroso Drag Specials (pretty much the lightest tire you can get) mounted on them; each combo weighed 20 lbs total, just under half what my full size fronts weighed. Last October I ran the 1/4 with the full size fronts and went 13.190 @ 106.93, 2.029 60 ft. I then swapped the Draglites on and ran again, 13.074 @ 107.44, 2.022 60 ft. Most of the small ET drop seemed to be attributable to an approximately 500 ft drop in the density altitude. They really didn't make the car much faster at all. I did like being able to roll through the water box without slinging water everywhere with the full size treaded fronts.
The Draglites fit with no grinding and a 5/16" spacer. I did put on ARP 2.5" wheel studs for safety. I recently sold them, but I just bought a pair of 15x8 Prostars and I plan on getting the matching 15x3.5 fronts (I already have the lugs, spacer and studs so why not).
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i run 3.5" pro starts with a 1/4" space and just had to grind a little on the fronts.Now the rears were a whole different story
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Ive got a set of Greg Weld Racelites, 15x3.5's and no spacer/no grinding. 26x7.5 Sportsmans and coulda/woulda/shoulda got a set of 27.5's.......... they're going up for sale this week........

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thanks for the input guys raers im not worried about im sticking with stock 16's and mickey's its the front im worried about i hate drivin around the water box and i think with skinnys i may be able to lift a wheel which would be a great pic for me.
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Originally Posted by Tommyv8
Last October I ran the 1/4 with the full size fronts and went 13.190 @ 106.93, 2.029 60 ft. I then swapped the Draglites on and ran again, 13.074 @ 107.44, 2.022 60 ft. Most of the small ET drop seemed to be attributable to an approximately 500 ft drop in the density altitude. They really didn't make the car much faster at all.
This is the best post I have seen in a while. I knew skinnies were not worth the 2/10 that some guys claim!

Running a car with diminished braking and vehicle control because of inferior front tires that gain you 1/10 doesn't sound like a good idea to me!

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it does once you start getting more serious about racing (talking sub 9's)
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Alot of people make claims that are not true. According to some on this board, I should have picked up 2mph by swapping from the pacesetter 1 3/4 to the stepped Kooks I have now - a couple individuals said otherwise and they were right.

But with that said, every little bit adds up. If front runners weren't worth it, you would probably see the pros all running wide tires. If you're on a budget, spend the money where it will benefit you the most. If you're making the power but not getting the weight transfer you need - then skinnies are def worth looking into. If you're running a bolt on street car then don't expect much.
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Check these summit stars out. They are affordable and once you see them ,the finish is really nice . Since I have WS6Store.com slotted and drilled rotors on mine , I used a 7/32 spacer on the front and the rear . Plenty of bite for my lugs and they look pretty good on my car too.


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-521-5461PS/
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Yes they are worth it. the 1-2 tenths is well established,except on econo cars that come with tiny wheels stock.
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cheapest direct fit wheel (no grinding needed) for a stock brake setup fbody is going to the be the racestar industries dragstar

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Originally Posted by 99.9percenter
Yes they are worth it. the 1-2 tenths is well established,except on econo cars that come with tiny wheels stock.
My firsthand real-world experience posted above is not the only time I've done back-to-back (as in same day, same track, minutes apart) runs with the different wheel-tire combos and found very little difference once the DA has been taken into account. And my 20 lb per side (10 lb wheel, 10 lb tire) front drag combo is about as light as it gets. The rears wouldn't save much weight, the wheels would be about 7 lbs lighter (15x8 Prostar vs 16x8 stock snowflake) and the tires would probably weigh about the same. Maybe it makes more of a difference for cars that normally run heavier 17" or 18" wheels.
BTW I just bought Prostar front runners with heavy M/T Sportsman tires on them, really more for the big/little look and for driving through the water box than for any kind of performance benefit.

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Convo pros for no grinding...billets work nice too but are a little more expensive and heavier
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Originally Posted by Tommyv8
My firsthand real-world experience posted above is not the only time I've done back-to-back (as in same day, same track, minutes apart) runs with the different wheel-tire combos and found very little difference once the DA has been taken into account. And my 20 lb per side (10 lb wheel, 10 lb tire) front drag combo is about as light as it gets. The rears wouldn't save much weight, the wheels would be about 7 lbs lighter (15x8 Prostar vs 16x8 stock snowflake) and the tires would probably weigh about the same. Maybe it makes more of a difference for cars that normally run heavier 17" or 18" wheels.
BTW I just bought Prostar front runners with heavy M/T Sportsman tires on them, really more for the big/little look and for driving through the water box than for any kind of performance benefit.
What Reject says in his above post about skinniys on low 9 second cars makes sense to me.
But from the guys I know locally who all run from mid 11's on up who have run skinnys seem to agree with you.
Not really worth it from a money spent for gains point of view.




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