View Full Version : Negative impact if bar above pan hard rod is removed?


12secondv6
01-04-2004, 10:45 PM
The stock stamped steel black bar that is above the pan hard rod, are there any negative impacts by removing it?

I upgraded the stock pan hard rod to a hotchkis bar.

Weight reduction is weight reduction, right?

SilverGhost
01-04-2004, 10:58 PM
took mine out like 2 years ago, haven't had any problems i'm aware of. i don't even know what that damn thing is for to be honest.

12secondv6
01-04-2004, 11:01 PM
One of my v6 turned v8 peeps did this.

OK, its on the list to be ditched then, thanks!

SScam68
01-05-2004, 04:43 AM
Took a look at it the other day.

Looks like its rigidly mounted and reinforces the panhard bracket. If it breaks from fatigue life is going to get interesting!

Camaroholic
01-05-2004, 08:10 AM
I almost posted this same question the other day, when I removed mine.

I have a friend who has been running without his, no ill effects. He did it to clear his 4" exhaust.

I'm doing it to clear my 'street' exhaust, and to make pulling the exhaust easier.

I don't know how much strength it adds, because it's already bent... Bent things usually tend to flex at the bends anyway...

We'll see... I'll be running without it.

-Andrew

Pro Stock John
01-05-2004, 02:34 PM
Had mine out a few years, but I also installed an aftermarket PHB at the same time to be safe.

Colonel
01-05-2004, 08:04 PM
The one on my '00 has been gone from almost day one. No problems. That bar really only comes into play when cornering agressively, IMO.

The Guy in MY 99TA
01-05-2004, 09:17 PM
I almost posted this same question the other day, when I removed mine.

I have a friend who has been running without his, no ill effects. He did it to clear his 4" exhaust.

I'm doing it to clear my 'street' exhaust, and to make pulling the exhaust easier.

I don't know how much strength it adds, because it's already bent... Bent things usually tend to flex at the bends anyway...

We'll see... I'll be running without it.

-Andrew

did your stock phr seem to have a slight bend in the bottom of it?? I kind of noticed that mine looks like it is twisted.

Josh S.

SScam68
01-06-2004, 12:15 AM
The one on my '00 has been gone from almost day one. No problems. That bar really only comes into play when cornering agressively, IMO.

Yup!

and I agree as well. Still debating wether to remove it or not.

Whats it worth in weight? 5lbs?

12secondv6
01-06-2004, 12:46 AM
Thanks for all the replies!

Well, since I have manual steering I don't think cornering aggresivley will come into play :)

01 SS Jay
01-06-2004, 07:56 AM
Bret at BMR said its to reinforce the panhard bar mounting point, and he didnt recommend removing it - then again, there are obviously a few people not running theirs, and they have no problems. Id ditch it unless you autox.

Colonel
01-06-2004, 12:16 PM
Yeah, 5 lbs.

chevyguy3
01-08-2004, 04:11 PM
i removed mine, did 1.2x 60's with no problems, but my car sees no hard cornering. i also relocated my PHR farther upward on the bracket which reduces the amount of side leverage the bar has on the bracket and its welds