View Full Version : She needs lots of maintenance, advice wanted


LS1speedy
04-05-2010, 04:44 PM
Maintenance & Repairs

High mileage 02 ws6 in need of lots service.
I took the car to a dealership for brake pads and to get the right cat
checked out and ended up with $3500+ worth repairs less tax.

diagnostic $59.00

I was told the car was missfiring so
plug&wires $685.46

In need of complete fuel service carbon build up
GM complete fuel service $199.95

I found out right rear brake was always engage are sticking
all rotors worn down, to low to resurface.
front & rear brakes and rotors $914.18

Air filter $25.00
Fuel filter $65.88
pcv hoses $72.65

both catalytic converters are clogged
$1500.00+

Yeah a big A@# ripping. I'm in a rush so I will check back in later to night.
Suggestion Advice is welcome.
To cut cost down I would like to perform some of these task myself.
Should I stick with GM parts are go aftermarket?

cgroh89
04-05-2010, 04:59 PM
All of these repairs seem completly do-able at home if you have the tools. Brakes/Calipers are easy. Plugs wires are easier. Hollow out the convertors bring the car into a independent shop for the injector cleaning.

hotrodscrap
04-05-2010, 05:45 PM
Gettin rapped, where are you at? I don't have emissions so I would worry about cats, delete or buy perf. cats. and have a muffler shop weld in. 1.500.00 crazy!
On top of that, if you don't know how to do this stuff, your in the right place. Do a little research on here, talk to people, and when you complete this stuff you'll appreciate the car more, save money, and learn more.

-SS

lazyhomie
04-05-2010, 06:02 PM
Do all that stuff yourself its basic DIY things with basic tools for the most part. Cats just get rid of them stop killing yourself over them and put those 1500 towards future HP mods. If you just absolutely can't do anything take your car to a private mechanic shop and they should even charge you less. Stealership is a big no no for anything.

myk
04-05-2010, 06:07 PM
Wow. So using those dealership numbers I saved over 2K doing that work myself. Multiply that by 4 and...Wow, just wow...

Pitbull329
04-05-2010, 07:43 PM
Wow... speechless. You can see why dealerships are failing.

All this you can do yourself.

Heres more or less what you'll pay to have said items.

plugs&wires= $70.

carbon buildup clean up and injector cleaning= @$9/bottle of sea foam.

Rotors&pads= some sponsors on here have complete set for as low as $200, I believe.

Air filter=~$10
Fuel filter=~$10?
pcv hoses= unsure lol, but some people use basic hoses you can find at auto part stores.

Go to a muffler shop and have you cat converters removed or gutted for the mean time.

Forget the dealership.

pj4553
04-05-2010, 07:56 PM
$700.00 for plugs and wires? This should be illegal. They are trying to rip you off man.

ULTIMATEORANGESS
04-05-2010, 08:28 PM
you can buy LTs for what they want for cats.

OSU Football Fan
04-05-2010, 08:35 PM
Maintenance & Repairs

High mileage 02 ws6 in need of lots service.
I took the car to a dealership for brake pads and to get the right cat
checked out and ended up with $3500+ worth repairs less tax.

diagnostic $59.00
I'm not really sure about this charge, but I think that
either autozone or pepboys will read codes for free.

I was told the car was missfiring so
plug&wires $685.46
$70 for new MSD wires & NGK T55 plugs.
Do it yourself or take it to a smaller shop & pay $100-$150.

In need of complete fuel service carbon build up
GM complete fuel service $199.95
Use CCCC & see if that works. $10 or less.

I found out right rear brake was always engage are sticking
all rotors worn down, to low to resurface.
front & rear brakes and rotors $914.18
I'm not really sure how much this would be, but I'm sure you
can do it for less than $900.


Air filter $25.00
Fuel filter $65.88
pcv hoses $72.65
I would get a K&N filter $60, an AC Delco fuel filter,
Can't remember how much they are. They're less than
$65 though. I'm not really sure about the PVC hoses.

both catalytic converters are clogged
$1500.00+
$1500 is just crazy. You can pick up a good used set off of this
board for $150-$200. Or you could buy a set of LT headers & Y-pipe
for less than half that.

Yeah a big A@# ripping. I'm in a rush so I will check back in later to night.
Suggestion Advice is welcome.
To cut cost down I would like to perform some of these task myself.
Should I stick with GM parts are go aftermarket?

Good luck man.

LS1speedy
04-06-2010, 12:18 AM
Thanks for the replies.
I live in Missouri. So I need cats, though I know a lot guys running without them.
Thank goodness I found an old letter that informed me that the cats are covered for 10years or 120k miles which ever first. So that's taking care of except the two diagnostic fees.

Air filter, I will just buy another fram/purelator paper filter.
If I was to use SEAFOAM or CCCC and other fuel injector cleaning solutions, does this differ from what GM techs would do? After questioning the service rep and a mechanic it seems all they do is pour something into the car for $200.00.
Since I'm a 63B/91B in the military I've changed fuel filters on 5tons and LMTV's
never on civilian vehicle. Are there any "How to fix _________" links?

I'm looking at power stop brakes, I see a sponsor on this site is selling rotors & pads for all corners for a nice price. I also see the the spark plugs and wire sponsor sale mentioned above. Fixing the brakes and changing the spark plugs may be difficult for me. I need to find out what tools I need and check out private owned shops. Again, thanks for the comments more are welcome.

lazyhomie
04-06-2010, 12:47 AM
There are plenty of how to's out there right from changing your oil to swapping out your motor for a 6.0 I would say if your up for the task with basic tools look up on the net some how to's on google or even on here plenty of people have write ups. Ls1tech will save people lots of money from all the help all the members give each other. after all its free use it. Most of this stuff is basic common sense screwing and unscrewing plugs change wires one by one so you dnt mix up its simple stuff that a little searching will give you detailed how to's if you're ever stuck all you have to do is ask for help on here.

Squirts11
04-06-2010, 01:02 AM
Wow... speechless. You can see why dealerships are failing.

All this you can do yourself.

Heres more or less what you'll pay to have said items.

plugs&wires= $70.

carbon buildup clean up and injector cleaning= @$9/bottle of Mopar Combustion Chamber Cleaner.

Rotors&pads= some sponsors on here have complete set for as low as $200, I believe.

Air filter=~$10
Fuel filter=~$10?
pcv hoses= unsure lol, but some people use basic hoses you can find at auto part stores.

Go to a muffler shop and have you cat converters removed or gutted for the mean time.

Forget the dealership.

Agree with everything but the seafoam. Fixed.

You should be able to find a Do-It-Yourself for everything mentioned on one of these sites:

Installuniversity.com
Bowlingss.com
myls1.com
ls1howto.com

Save yourself some money man. Good luck!

shaun
04-06-2010, 01:39 AM
plugs and wires can be had for loess that 40 bucks if you use cheaper wires like duralast and on our cars hi po wires dont do any thing anyway.
a fuel filter is about 10 buck at the parts store.
all of this stuff is easy to do if not try to find a gm specialty shop that works on our type of cars.

shaun
04-06-2010, 01:41 AM
oh and the pcv hoses are about 90 buck at the dealer(not the one you went to lol and be friendly with the parts guy that can make a big difference on parts price.

lt1pwr1
04-06-2010, 08:13 AM
Thanks for the replies.
I live in Missouri. So I need cats, though I know a lot guys running without them.
Thank goodness I found an old letter that informed me that the cats are covered for 10years or 120k miles which ever first. So that's taking care of except the two diagnostic fees.

Air filter, I will just buy another fram/purelator paper filter.
If I was to use SEAFOAM or CCCC and other fuel injector cleaning solutions, does this differ from what GM techs would do? After questioning the service rep and a mechanic it seems all they do is pour something into the car for $200.00.
Since I'm a 63B/91B in the military I've changed fuel filters on 5tons and LMTV's
never on civilian vehicle. Are there any "How to fix _________" links?

I'm looking at power stop brakes, I see a sponsor on this site is selling rotors & pads for all corners for a nice price. I also see the the spark plugs and wire sponsor sale mentioned above. Fixing the brakes and changing the spark plugs may be difficult for me. I need to find out what tools I need and check out private owned shops. Again, thanks for the comments more are welcome.

GM makes a fuel injector cleaner that you just pour into your gas tank. It's like $25 but it works really good. That is about the only thing I would buy from them. Do yourself a favor, sign up at Autozonedotcom to be a member and they give you free repair guides for most vehicles (or buy a Haynes manual or similar). Like everyone else said, you can more than handle those repairs if you have a little mechanical know how and a repair manual.

Even if you had to buy 4 new rotors and brake pads, you would be around $250 if you just went aftermarket (about $50 a rotor and $25 a piece for pads). Maybe I missed it, but how many miles are on your car?

THE SHOP
04-06-2010, 08:52 AM
Maintenance & Repairs

High mileage 02 ws6 in need of lots service.
I took the car to a dealership for brake pads and to get the right cat
checked out and ended up with $3500+ worth repairs less tax.

diagnostic $59.00
-Free
I was told the car was missfiring so
plug&wires $685.46

AC DELCO WIRES-$53
AC DELCO PLUGS-8-$40
LABOR-$120
TOTAL= $213


In need of complete fuel service carbon build up
GM complete fuel service $199.95

B.S.

I found out right rear brake was always engage are sticking
all rotors worn down, to low to resurface.
front & rear brakes and rotors $914.18

ALL AROUND
ROTORS-$140
LIFETIME PADS-$100
LABOR -$140

Air filter $25.00
$5-$20
Fuel filter $65.88
$10
pcv hoses $72.65

both catalytic converters are clogged
$1500.00+
$350
Yeah a big A@# ripping. I'm in a rush so I will check back in later to night.
Suggestion Advice is welcome.
To cut cost down I would like to perform some of these task myself.
Should I stick with GM parts are go aftermarket?



The prices I quoted from my shop If I did the work by the book, yeah so do it yourself or find a alternative shop.

Joshiedoom
04-06-2010, 09:16 AM
Cats are the only thing I cannot do myself, but I would find a good ls1 buddy and grab some drinks and have a field day. Save about 3k and learn quite a bit.

sjsingle1
04-06-2010, 09:51 AM
WTF?? i only take my car to the stealership when ABSOLUTLY necessary......like when the chip reader went out in my ignition switch......500$......most of those things you can do yourself

LS1speedy
04-09-2010, 09:22 PM
I've made a little progress
so far I used GM fuel injector cleaner($25), new Fram Air Filter($11), and got the CATS fixed($60 for diagnostic).

Brakes are next on the to do list.