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Old 04-18-2010, 07:46 PM
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Hey guys I have a 00 camaro, car started and was running fine, then started idling rough and died, hasnt started since. I have fuel at the check point on the rail, I have spark but it seems kind of hesitant, I only have spark like every other revolution. Any and all help appreciated.
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check the crank position sensor to make sure its plugged in...try to get a scanner plugged in and check for codes
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just checked fuel pressure and holds 58-60 on the rail. Any other ideas?
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Just throw parts at it until it runs.

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also when i pulled the plugs to check the spark, the plugs were dry. its almost like the car acts flooded but no raw gas smell or anything, also has the required pressure. anything guys?
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Originally Posted by crainholio
It's a 4-cycle engine, you're only supposed to spark each cylinder every other revolution.

Nice work w/ the fuel pressure gauge so you can rule out a fuel issue and move on.

Spend $5 or so on a fuel injector Noid light. Pick an injector, remove the electrical connector, and snap the Noid light into the connector. Crank the engine, you should see the light flash.

If no light, start by pulling and checking continuity on every fuse in the panel.

After that it's time to invest in a scanner. The last Vette I fixed had somehow sheared both grounds off the back of the driver side head. Without a laptop scanner there's no way we'd ever have found that by throwing parts at it.
Thanks, we also checked all the fuses and swapped around some of the relays. If the fuses have an issue I cant see it looking at them, That may be possible to though. I have access to the GM tech II at work that I can probably bring home tomorrow, Ive just never used one so Im not sure I will know my way around it but I can sure try.
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Just throw parts at it until it runs.

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you dont really need a DMM doe the fuses, just use needle noses and pull em out.
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Originally Posted by kmracer
you dont really need a DMM doe the fuses, just use needle noses and pull em out.
Yeah thats what I did to check them last night was just go ahead and pull all of them one at a time to check them and see. All of them look good, also put a meter on them just to double check myself. Any more ideas?
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nobody else?
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ok so i scanned the car with the GM Tech 2 and came up with some codes. P0107 which was the MAP sensor, EGR, AIR, codes but I have deleted both the EGR and AIR off of the car. So I found that the MAP sensor wasnt plugged in, I plugged it up and now that code is gone. I pulled the plugs again and they seem to be a lil wet but not alot by no means. Also checked the voltage with the scanner, car holds 12.5 on voltage by the scan tool. Also put a noid light on it and it lights up so the injectors should be popping. The injector pulse bandwith is like 59.9 when you first start cranking the car and falls to 49.9-52 after a couple revolutions. Any more ideas? Im in really deep here guys and need all the help I can get. Thanks Again.
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any help guys? any ideas at all?
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See here: http://www.gearchatter.com/viewtopic8945.php
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this one has really got a lot of people confused, some people are saying possible pcm. one guy also told me to check compression, he said it could be a broke camshaft. oil pressure and all does ok when cranking though.
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any ideas to what i may be missing guys?
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Anybody?
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Did you follow the diagnostic chart on gearchatter.com...?




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