Negative Trader Feedback - ZEX-Z - Jeremy Brown - BBR, Inc. - Bad Boy Racing, Inc.




FreedS4
04-30-2010, 03:38 PM
BUYER BEWARE!! Bad Boy Racing, Inc. - BBR, Inc. - Jeremy Brown (ZEX-Z)

Over two months ago, I found an advertisement on Craigslist Houston for an LS6 intake, off of an '03 Z06. It was being sold by Jeremy Brown from BBR, Inc., in Freeport, TX. I contacted Jeremy (March 19th) about purchasing the LS6 intake and he immediately replied saying that it was still available. I sent him a money order the same day and he received the money order a few days later, as I am only 150 or so miles from where he lives. After two weeks of not receiving the LS6 intake that I paid him for, I contacted Jeremy to see what was going on. He told me that he shipped it out and that I should expect to see it in a few days.

A week later, after still not receiving the LS6 intake, I contacted Jeremy again. He said that the intake had been returned for some reason, but that he would send it out again. I told him to let me know when he had sent it out. Two days later, I still hadn't heard from him, so I contacted him yet again. He said that he wasn't able to send it out, because he had been so busy at work, but that he'd get someone to mail it out that day. The next day, I received a text from Jeremy stating that he had finally been able to ship it out. A few days later (April 19th), I had a package at my front door, finally I had received my LS6 intake that I had paid for nearly a month prior. Not so much.

I opened the package to find an LS2 intake, PN 12589181. I was shocked that I had to wait a month to receive the WRONG part. I immediately contacted Jeremy, to see what had happened. He said that it was indeed an LS6 intake and that it "came off of a Z06" and that "I ran it on my car for a month and I have a '98 C5". Finally, he admitted that he indeed had sent me an LS2 intake, instead of the LS6 intake that I had paid him for. He tried to tell me that the LS2 intake flowed better than the LS6 intake, and that I had gotten a deal on this LS2 intake. I was shocked to see that someone who claims to be an LSx Specialist at his shop, BBR, Inc., would try to argue that the LS2 intake was better than the LS6 intake.

After days of discussing with him that I wanted either the LS6 intake that he had been offering, or my money back, instead of this LS2 intake, he finally agreed to giving me my money back, via Paypal (April 21). That was a week and a half ago and I still haven't seen anything. The best part about it is that now he won't answer/return my phone calls or my text messages. I've been very dissappointed in the way Jeremy has handled this transaction. I'm not asking for anything other than my money back and I've given him ample opportunity to make this transaction right, but he hasn't been receptive to any of it. He was feeding me lies about how great the LS2 intake was compared to the LS6 intake. I'm not here to debate how you can run a 90mm TB on the LS2 intake and have it perform well. I just wanted to receive an LS6 intake, when I sent him the money for the LS6 intake he was selling on Craigslist.

I contacted Jeremy today, to make him aware of the fact that I was going to write this Seller Feedback on the forum, to see if that would help the situation and it hasn't, so here it is. Hopefully no one else has to deal with this type of transaction from Jeremy or BBR, Inc. If there's anything anyone on here can do to help, it would be greatly appreciated.


FreedS4
05-02-2010, 12:26 AM
Here's our whole conversation, via text message. I didn't contact Jeremy via text until after I had sent him the money for the LS6 intake.

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It's too bad that you tried to put all of the blame on me, saying that I agreed that it was ok for you to send me an LS2 intake. The above texts CLEARLY show that I paid you for an LS6 intake and then you tried to pull a fast one on me and send me an LS2 intake. You admitted to making a mistake and know everyone can see what kind of shady deal this was.

9Green-Z8
05-02-2010, 02:49 AM
man that really sucks dude


FreedS4
05-02-2010, 08:26 AM
man that really sucks dude

Yeah, it does. I've tried to be nice about the whole situation, but there comes a point where I just had to make everyone aware of what happened. I hate doing it this way, but I don't want anyone else to have to go through this. Such a pain in the ass...

Chris

FreedS4
05-03-2010, 09:48 AM
The good news is that Jeremy has since contacted me and agreed to pay me back my money. We'll see if he actually gets me my money back and when he does, I'll let everyone know. Things look promising though...

Squirts11
05-03-2010, 10:05 AM
That sucks balls man. I'm confused though...why did you send him a money order in the first place if you both had paypal? You don't have any protection via money order in instances such as this, but you can protect yourself through paypal...

FreedS4
05-03-2010, 10:46 PM
That sucks balls man. I'm confused though...why did you send him a money order in the first place if you both had paypal? You don't have any protection via money order in instances such as this, but you can protect yourself through paypal...

I offered to pay via Paypal and he said that he didn't have an account. And honestly, I thought the transaction would go smoothly, so I wasn't worried about seller protection. I was probably being a little naive, but then again, I'd never been screwed like this before. Lesson learned...

Philip@HPE
05-03-2010, 10:54 PM
Pro Tip: Paragraphs make for easy reading

socal
05-03-2010, 11:50 PM
ill show you where he lives

FreedS4
05-04-2010, 08:02 AM
Pro Tip: Paragraphs make for easy reading

I'll remember that next time I'm writing about how I got screwed out of money...

ill show you where he lives

Thanks for the offer, but I'm really hoping he'll pull through this time. We'll see.

THE SHOP
05-04-2010, 12:24 PM
Ls6 14hp rating over ls2 on a ls2 crate engine.

bigboykilroy
05-04-2010, 08:48 PM
What a fucking tool, I hope you get your $$ back. good luck.
If you "own" a shop and dont know what a ls1, ls6 and a ls2 intake looks like then you should NOT be in business.

FreedS4
05-04-2010, 09:14 PM
What a fucking tool, I hope you get your $$ back. good luck.
If you "own" a shop and dont know what a ls1, ls6 and a ls2 intake looks like then you should NOT be in business.

I was under the same impression, that you should know the difference. I'm still holding out that I'll see my money. We'll see...

FreedS4
05-10-2010, 04:22 PM
Jeremy's back to his old tricks again, not returning phone calls, e-mails, or text messages. I'm going to contact his local police department and see what I can do about filing a mail fraud case. I'm also going to contact the BBB and see what they can do about this, or see if they can offer up any advice. If I have to, I'll go to small claims court to get my money back, but this is getting ridiculous. Mods, can you offer any help?

Lambert695
05-13-2010, 06:04 AM
Ha I was 2 seconds away from buying this from him... or maybe you bought it and he was still telling me it was available. However, you should have had him send you pics of it before hand. He wouldn't send me any so I didn't send the money. Also, it was only for sale on craigslist but he is on like 5 other forums posting classifieds for other products. Those say his paypal account on them. The one big dead give away though was the 225 shipped price tag. Those things sell for 300+ daily on this website.. who wouldn't want to make an extra 75 dollars. Oh well, you live and learn and im sorry about your loss and hope he sends you your money back.
You're totally right though how it makes his business look like shit.

FreedS4
05-13-2010, 08:41 AM
Ha I was 2 seconds away from buying this from him... or maybe you bought it and he was still telling me it was available. However, you should have had him send you pics of it before hand. He wouldn't send me any so I didn't send the money. Also, it was only for sale on craigslist but he is on like 5 other forums posting classifieds for other products. Those say his paypal account on them. The one big dead give away though was the 225 shipped price tag. Those things sell for 300+ daily on this website.. who wouldn't want to make an extra 75 dollars. Oh well, you live and learn and im sorry about your loss and hope he sends you your money back.
You're totally right though how it makes his business look like shit.

What other sites is he on trying to sell stuff? I'd like to inform other people about his shady business as much as I can. I knew the deal sounded too good to be true, but I still don't deserve all of this crap. I'm glad you didn't bite on it and end up getting screwed as well!

SpeedFreak123
05-13-2010, 12:37 PM
FreedS4- I am sorry to hear about all of this. I know people get scammed from private sellers, but from a "reputable" buisness, YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING!! He is trying to become a LS1tech sponsor with buisness methods shown above. Screw him, Get your money & Get him out of a job that he doesnt deserve!! Good luck with everything man.

NemeSS
05-13-2010, 04:16 PM
what kind of a guru that works on ls engines doenst know how to tell a ls2 from a ls6 intake:confused:
hope u get resolved.
one of my friends also almost got scammed by nother guy who was trying to pass off a c5 ls1 intake as ls6. i told him what it was. and he passed on it

Lambert695
05-14-2010, 01:40 AM
What other sites is he on trying to sell stuff? I'd like to inform other people about his shady business as much as I can. I knew the deal sounded too good to be true, but I still don't deserve all of this crap. I'm glad you didn't bite on it and end up getting screwed as well!

I dont exactly remember.. i know he is on here and some LT1 forum. I just googled him/ his username. if I remember he uses the same one. judging by his knowledge his business went down the crapper which is why he had to attempt to scam someone. He knew exactly what it was.. which is probably why he sold it on craigslist hoping to find someone that has no clue of what one is (not you). You just trusted the wrong man. which is sad because there seems to be alot of scammers on here these days.

Lambert695
05-14-2010, 01:47 AM
jdubb168984@yahoo.com i think thats his email on sites/ paypal

Justus67
05-14-2010, 12:33 PM
979-239-1211, That is the Freeport PD phone number.

myc4ltwon
05-14-2010, 11:41 PM
wow hope you get your money back... Not good business

roundboy
05-16-2010, 11:15 AM
Here is a link to his website::
http://badboyracing-tx.com/index.html

FreedS4
05-21-2010, 03:00 PM
We are in the middle of resolving this issue.

Lambert695
05-21-2010, 10:34 PM
well thats good... still doesn't excuse what he did though by trying to scam someone.

BoostJunkieXL
05-23-2010, 11:37 AM
We are in the middle of resolving this issue. Jeremy has been very helpful over the last week in making this tranaction right.

Be careful....he WILL find another way to screw you! Notice....he has not responded to anything on this site. And this jackass wants to be a sponsor??

ThaRiddler
06-14-2010, 03:25 PM
Hey there guys... Wow... Really interesting forum to read, Shawn Brown here.. Jeremy browns Little Brother... After reading the post on this forum let me be the first to apologize on the problems that have came too with what happened to you freedS4... I am not here to cover for jeremy in any way but only here to make things right with you and BBR and our Names (Mine and Jeremys)... I do not believe in Bad Business in any way and want nothing more then the best for anyone that comes through or does business with our shop... I am actually more upset now after reading this forum and am shooting at correcting these problems with this and the shop... I could spend all day and an arm and a leg apologizing to everyone on this site and to you... I just want the best for my customers and to give them exactly what I would want in my vehicle. If there are any questions PM me and we can resolve the matter... Thank you, and again I am sorry...

FreedS4
06-14-2010, 05:30 PM
well thats good... still doesn't excuse what he did though by trying to scam someone.

I have to agree, but he did pull through and sent me the full $225 back. The issue has been resolved.

Be careful....he WILL find another way to screw you! Notice....he has not responded to anything on this site. And this jackass wants to be a sponsor??

I would like to see Jeremy respond to all of this.

Hey there guys... Wow... Really interesting forum to read, Shawn Brown here.. Jeremy browns Little Brother... After reading the post on this forum let me be the first to apologize on the problems that have came too with what happened to you freedS4... I am not here to cover for jeremy in any way but only here to make things right with you and BBR and our Names (Mine and Jeremys)... I do not believe in Bad Business in any way and want nothing more then the best for anyone that comes through or does business with our shop... I am actually more upset now after reading this forum and am shooting at correcting these problems with this and the shop... I could spend all day and an arm and a leg apologizing to everyone on this site and to you... I just want the best for my customers and to give them exactly what I would want in my vehicle. If there are any questions PM me and we can resolve the matter... Thank you, and again I am sorry...

I wish you had seen this earlier so the issue could've been resolved sooner. Your brother did come through and sent me the full $225 back, however, it only happened after I spent DAYS/MONTHS nagging him. It's a shame that I had to resort to posting this on this forum in order to get the issue resolved, but I'm very glad I did because it took care of the problem.

Justus67
06-17-2010, 09:21 PM
Glad you got it resolved.:cheers:

ZEX-Z
06-19-2010, 08:05 AM
Sorry about the confusion and the mishap...I was working 7 on and no off at Dow for 2 months straight,12's and 16's. Running the shop at the same time there wasnt much time to be on the forums. If Chris wanted anything installed on his car for free i would do it regardless of the mishap to prove to him that i am an honest person. I have sold Cars on LS1tech and shipped them across the country,engines on LS1tech and shipped them across the country,parts ect as well as the fact that i am a power seller on ebay with a 100% positive rating. Sorry once again that we had an issue but i so happy to refund you on your purchase with us. Anything i can do in the future to make it up to you,BBR Performance is just a phone call away.

NoTractionLS1
06-19-2010, 03:50 PM
Glad it worked out for ya man....but "wow" way to wanna be a sponsor!!

FreedS4
06-24-2010, 11:42 AM
Sorry about the confusion and the mishap...I was working 7 on and no off at Dow for 2 months straight,12's and 16's. Running the shop at the same time there wasnt much time to be on the forums. If Chris wanted anything installed on his car for free i would do it regardless of the mishap to prove to him that i am an honest person. I have sold Cars on LS1tech and shipped them across the country,engines on LS1tech and shipped them across the country,parts ect as well as the fact that i am a power seller on ebay with a 100% positive rating. Sorry once again that we had an issue but i so happy to refund you on your purchase with us. Anything i can do in the future to make it up to you,BBR Performance is just a phone call away.

I understand the tough work schedule, but I don't understand the lies (i.e. trying to say that it was actually an LS6 intake, telling me that I got "a deal" on the LS2 intake that you sent me, telling me that the LS2 intake was a better intake, saying that you'd Paypal me the money, telling me you'd give me an extra $50 "for my troubles", etc...) you told. What's your excuse for that?

FreedS4
06-27-2010, 06:36 PM
Now Jeremy wants me to send him the original intake back, using my money. Refusing to send me anything to pay to ship it him, after the crap he put me through for over 2 months. Thoughts...

NoTractionLS1
06-27-2010, 06:46 PM
Now Jeremy wants me to send him the original intake back, using my money. Refusing to send me anything to pay to ship it him, after the crap he put me through for over 2 months. Thoughts...

This guys a joke end of story!

FreedS4
06-27-2010, 11:36 PM
This guys a joke end of story!

Jeremy said that if I didn't send me his intake back, on MY own dime, he'd post negative feedback about me. I lol'd...

FormulaZR
07-15-2010, 11:18 AM
Jeremy said that if I didn't send me his intake back, on MY own dime, he'd post negative feedback about me. I lol'd...

Send it COD...

xx_ED_xx
07-16-2010, 03:14 AM
what a fvcking sh|t bag!
I had one joker on ebay pull that shit on me, I sold him a DBW 8.1 Throttlebody for .99. Months later I got hosed out the money for shipping it the fees on ebay and no thorttlebody because he buys tb's to refurbish and sell on ebay and since the tracking number didnt have an address just a zip code sent to that was good enough. Oh this was after 2 other tracking numbers that didnt match where i lived. I hate fvcking scum!!!

:end rant:

Formulized94
07-16-2010, 01:54 PM
I would run over the piece of ish, and send it back to him cod.

Jmagliola
07-17-2010, 12:30 PM
Tell him he can either send you the money to send it back or kiss your ass.

I don't care how much anyone apologizes - this guy is a POS.

mike83z
07-17-2010, 05:47 PM
No way I would send it back on my dime. If he wants it back, he needs to pay the return shipping. He made the mistake of sending you the wrong intake. Not to mention the circus that he put you through.

OUTLAWZ RACING
07-18-2010, 09:54 PM
Tell him to come get it.......

CumminsPower
08-14-2010, 12:14 PM
First I'll say I'm sorry about your intake. Next I'll add that I just had some work done by them and I can say I had absolutely NO problems with the work BBR did for my Z28. They always answered or returned calls and even called after everything was done making sure everything was just the way I wanted it. They even put in extraordinary hours to get my car back to me when they said they would even fixing problems and making installs for just the price of the part. I have had a positive experience and would return for any work I needed. Just adding in my thoughts and experience with BBR.

VinR1
12-07-2010, 04:45 PM
sorry to bump an old thread but I couldnt help but notice they're selling $300 eBay headers for $500 on craigslist...