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Old 01-09-2004, 03:17 PM
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Default Is there a relatively inexpensive stand-alone tool for scanning OBD II trouble codes?

I don't want some big expensive apparatus for tweaking my PCM, nor do I want something that requires a lap-top computer to operate.

Isn't there just a simple tool that plugs into the diagnostic coupling under the IP that will display trouble codes when you get an SES light?

On one of my older cars with OBD I, you'd just ground the diagnostic lead and then it would flash the trouble codes right on the dashboard. That doesn't work any more with OBD II...does it?
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Local auto store. About $150. for a cheap one.
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Or a used Predator
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Or a used Predator
Explain the Predator. How much? What does it do?
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Originally Posted by Silvr98z28
Local auto store. About $150. for a cheap one.
Any brands that are better than others, or ones I should stay away from? I wouldn't mind spending $200 on one.
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Predator is a handheld tuner which locks to the car's VIN
number. It's somewhere between the HPP3 and a full-
blown editing software/cable/PC. Once it's used, it
can't (won't) write to any other than the original vehicle.
But it will still pull codes and do real-time monitoring of
about 20 engine params. So sometimes you see them
go cheap 'cause they are no longer usable as programmers,
and people will buy them for use as a handy scanner.
New they're like $400. I've used mine to read codes as
well as tuning and monitoring.
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diablo sell just a scanner dont they? that has no programing capabilities
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http://www.diablosport.com

its called the hellion
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i got a used predator for $40, but that is a little under market value.

Normally they sell for $120-150 from what i have seen. Even at $200 it is worth it for a OBD-2 scanner, and real time data tool.

Ryan.
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http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=46030
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Wow, that Harbor Junk code-reader is inexpensive ($40), but it isn't near as nice as the Actron Global OBD II Autoscanner CP 9135 (for $100 more) which has the trouble-code descriptions right on the display unit...
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Most cheapo scanners like the predator ONLY do generic OBD-II and not also GM enhanced so you could have a problem code but will not see or know it exists since the cheapo scanner does not support the parameters or may support it for 1 model year but not others.
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the hellion predator makes scans codes for every make and model 1996 and up if im not mistaken
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Wow, that Harbor Junk code-reader is inexpensive ($40), but it isn't near as nice as the Actron Global OBD II Autoscanner CP 9135 (for $100 more) which has the trouble-code descriptions right on the display unit...
what good does that do you. why spend 100+ on a scanner that might give a description of the code but no way to fix it :shrug: chances are your going to pull the code and then come on here or another site and ask us about it. for a simple and cheap way of getting a code pulled you cant beat that 40 or cheaper one.
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Originally Posted by jrp
what good does that do you. why spend 100+ on a scanner that might give a description of the code but no way to fix it :shrug: chances are your going to pull the code and then come on here or another site and ask us about it. for a simple and cheap way of getting a code pulled you cant beat that 40 or cheaper one.
Whatever floats your boat I guess, but I'd prefer to have the error description right on the display so I don't have to fumble with a book to see what the trouble code is, especially if it's a simple thing like a bad sensor or something. Sure, I might have to come here to decipher the more puzzling problems, and that Harbor Junk code reader is definitely inexpensive, but an extra $100 for the cool features of the Actron isn't going to kill me. I was thinking a nice code reader was going to run several hundred dollars, so $140 for the Actron 9135 still rates as "relatively inexpensive" to me.



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