Y2K_Camaro

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I have both a 2000 and a 1998 Z28 Camaro. I'm thinking of selling my 2000 and getting a truck and using my 1998 as a DD/weekend toy. The 2000 is 6 speed and the 1998 is an auto. The cam in my 2000 Z28 is a Torquer V2 232/234 .595/.598 lift on a 112* LSA. Been thinking about switching it into the '98. Is that to much of an aggressive cam or to low of an LSA for an auto to be driving around town in?

MYSTIC-1SC

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that cam will work fine. You do plan on installing a higher stall torque converter though right?

lemons12

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Converter is a must... Cam won't be too big of a deal to get a good tune on it but I would leave that to a pro and not just a hand held. Gears will help the converter not feel as "loose" while driving around.

EDS01SS

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Yup that cam will be fine with an A4.

fucter

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Hmmm , interested in why your keeping the auto over the manual. (Unless it's gonna be a drag car, cause auto tromps manuals there, I'll admit that totally)

lemons12

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M6s are for impressing high school girls and spending tons of money over and over again.
Autos.... They tromp manuals period.

Y2K_Camaro

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Thanks for the info guys. Yea I do plan on getting a higher stall, probably like a 3200 or so and I've already got 373's in the rear. The reason I'm keeping the auto over the 6 speed is for the track. I'll be driving the car around a lot of the time but I mostly want it for the track. As for the tune, I've already got a pro lined up for that no problem

twitchtwice

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a 3200 is okay but you may regret going that small with a cam like the v2.

Finkledbody

He did say it was going to be his daily driver with some track use. So a converter between 3200-3600 should do fine. I agree though, he may regret it going that small.

David Q

Mine drives fine with the Torquer 2 and 4000 stall. I would get a bigger converter that 3200, the converter is what makes the car fast. Call Chris @ Circle D he will set you up with what you need.

Detoxx03

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Get atleast a 3600 stall and you'll be fine

Pro_built7

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what??? spending money on what?, Autos are much more likely to go out than a manual, I've had 3 manuals and have never replaced anything.

lemons12

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Go bigger than 3200, you will end up changing that out pretty quick because you will not be satisfied with your ET.
The difference between a 3200 and a 4000 is about 200Rpms on acceleration. Once you hit lock up they are exactly the same. At WOT there will be a HUGE difference. Do yourself a favor and go a MINIMUM of 3600, that IMO would still be on the small side though.

Never had to replace the clutch/syncros/shift forks/etc? Ever go to the track? How is that rear end doing? How about the fluid boiling and clutch sticking after 2-3 hard runs?

Pro_built7

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Never had to replace sychros/shift forks, been to the track (no problems with the t-56 in all 3 cars), rear end is negligible since autos AND manuals both have problems with the 10 bolt. Never boiled fluid (wtf?) and NEVER. EVER had my clutch stick.. On any vehicle. 2 of those cars were a 12 second LT1 car and 11 second LS1 car.

Sorry you had a bad experience, but I've seen alot more rebuilt 4L60e's than T-56's, thats pretty much fact. And I would never own an auto.. blah

It may be a personal opinion, but I find manuals to be alot more fun no comparison there.

Not to mention I get better gas mileage, and can run much higher gears (4.10 +) and still be able to cruise on the highway without revving the **** out of my engine which translates into less engine wear etc...

Did I also mention they make more power to the wheels than autos?..

Y2K_Camaro

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Ok, may end up going with a 3600 stall then. Why do yall say the V2 is to small of a cam? I love it in my 6 speed car now! Is it any different in an auto car?

Also, can I swap the headers out of my 2000 and into my '98? I'm thinking they probably wont work, but its worth a try to ask

lemons12

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You aren't driving your car then.

Stock auto.. Blah, I like the feeling more than a manual but they are not as much fun.
Stalled auto.... Thats where its at in all aspects.

You could have had 2 11 second lt1 cars and 1 10 second ls1 car if they were stalled autos.

lemons12

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I don't need 410s+ in my auto, it does fine with stock gearing and 373s. I care nothing for MPG, it is not my DD so it stays nice so that is irrelevant. These cars are not bought because people want killer MPG, they are bought because of the platform and like the looks.

Did I mention that RWHP means absolutely nothing? I make 370Rwhp and am shooting for 10s next track visit.... Full weight 00 TA (radio air seats etc etc etc) and run in regular DA (average of around 1500-2500+).

lemons12

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That cam is not small AT ALL, it is a VERY healthy cam. Only one person said that, everyone else said that the converter was too small. You will be VERY disappointed if you go with a 3200, personally I would go with a 4000 and nothing else, period. There is no reason not to IMO. You can run bigger cams in M6s than A4s without having to run into some of the tuning issues, other than that there is no difference. You can run the same size cam in both cars though.
FWIW, I run a 226/228 .588 114lsa cam and like I said ^^^^^, I am shooting for 10s next track visit and my car is NO WHERE NEAR a "track" oriented car. I even have a cheap *** budget set of heads. It is all in the converter/suspension setup. Cam choice means very little. Heads is the next big deciding factor.

Yes, you can swap the headers out just fine.

Pro_built7

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for a car thats 99.8% street driven.. I disagree. and FWIW after 300,000 + miles piloting manuals in uncountable different situations, I'm quite certain I could leave the line pretty damn close, if not exactly as fast as an auto. But driving experience varies.

It's all perspective really. For all the negatives you pointed out about manuals I could come back with twice as many positives. And to add to that, I've never had any of the problems you stated with any 3 of my T-56's, which I think is one of the best transmissions on the market. Especially with a stage 2 or viper kit from Tick Perf Talk about having your gas mileage cake and eating it too. !

Pro_built7

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Yes.. but why wouldn't you want the extra benefit of great gas mileage?

My Ms3 cammed ls1 is incredibly good on gas for making 405rwhp (cam only, mustang dyno) mine is not my DD either.

This is a dead horse debate. As for auto's I wouldn't want my sport / muscle car to be anything other than manual.. its just not nostalgic to me. And doesn't go along with the whole look and feel of the car to have an auto.
I've heard countless people say, "Wow nice car, ... oh its an auto". that type of thing

just my .02 to each their own.