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Old 06-02-2010, 04:43 PM
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Transmission/suspension:
4.56 Gears
98-02 LS1 Ram HDX Performance Clutch Set
98-02 LS1 Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel
93-02 Koni Camaro/Firebird Sport Shocks(Fronts) Single Adj.
93-02 Koni Camaro/Firebird Sport Shocks(Rears) Single Adj.
98-02 LS1 Eibach ProKit Performance Springs

Engine/Exhaust
98-02 LS1 Hypertech 180* Thermostat
98-02 LS1 BBK Full Length Header System & OFY (Chrome)
98-02 LS1 MSD Blaster Coil Kit (Set of 8)
98-02 LS1 MSD 8.5mm Super Conductor Wire Set
98-02 Fast Toys LS1 Black 104mm LS1 High Flow Air Lid
FAST LSXR Intake Manifold (102mm Inlet) Manifold For LS1/LS2/LS6
98-02 LS1 Nick Williams 102mm Throttle Body
98-02 LS1 Fbody Fast Toys Performance TSP 100mm MAF Sensor
98-02 Comp Cams Xtreme XE-R 232/234
Manley Perf. Valve Springs Single Spring w/o Damper Max Lift .57

Dyno Tune. Want To know if there is prolly anything better or these are good enough parts that will get me to over 400rwhp without heads
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i got over 400rwhp in my '01 ss with lid, exhaust, and 230/232 comp cam...so with that list of stuff, i'm sure you should bust through the 400 mark
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I would take out the MSD blaster coils, and try to find the 6.0 truck coils, been proven and you can probably find them cheaper, and its just a personal thing but i wouldnt go with chrome headers..i would try stainless, but good combo so far
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I hated my bumpstop riding Eibachs on my old LT1 car. They sucked so bad I bought a set of stockers and put back on...IMO literallly almost anything else is better and I have ridden/driven several brands....

X2 on the MSD coils

Big TB's like that won't gain you anythig unless you are BIG cubes and can be a PIA to tune.... same with that MAF..... both overkill......
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i agree with these guys. if need be OP call ron at vengeance and talk to him about the intake and tb more in depth
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Ok, So what kind of intake manifold, tb, and MAF should I get. LS6 Intake, ported TB, and What kinda MAF Sounds better?
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Leave the stock MAF on there and don't mess with it.
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
Leave the stock MAF on there and don't mess with it.
I guess I will be doing that
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Well, really if you wanted to you could pick up a stock Z06 MAF or the Delphi one. They are 85mm. But I would definitely not port/polish/de-screen it.
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
Well, really if you wanted to you could pick up a stock Z06 MAF or the Delphi one. They are 85mm. But I would definitely not port/polish/de-screen it.
Yea I was just about to ask If i should get a z06 one
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Originally Posted by vetteboy99
Ok, So what kind of intake manifold, tb
Ron @ Vengeance should be able to set you up with a max effort ported 102 FAST and matching TB. I believe that was what he was refering to with the call Vengeance portion.
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i pm'd him. What about the other mods?
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And change the cam to a torquer v3
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With those parts listed, you're going to spend a whole bunch of money to get less than stellar results. Lemme break it down for you..

-You do not want to put 4:56 gears in a 10 bolt. You'll shatter them the first time the tires stick. Do not go any higher than a 4:10.
-Ram clutches are decent. Not a bad choice there.
-Unless you can shift lightening fast, do not run a Fidanza flywheel. They're too light and lose a lot of momentum during shifts. I've seen this flywheel slow down a LOT of cars. Lighter does not always mean better. Get a billet steel.
-Why the Koni's? Put a set of Bilstein revalved HD shocks on there with some Eibach springs. It'll handle nearly the exact same, for 1/4 the cost.
-For $100 more, you can get a much better header selection from Pacesetter, opposed to the BBK's. The BBK's are ok, but they have garbage ball flanges and a 2.5 Ypipe.
-MSD coils are junk and a waste of money. I've seen several of them fail. Stock GM coils are good to very high HP levels. Another waste of money.
-MSD wires are junk. Run a GM LS2 wire. Better than MSD, half the cost.
-A fast 102mm is an overkill for a cam only car. Cam only LS1's only need a 90mm at best, for cost effective gains.
-The 232/234 cam is not a very good grind. Never seen one make power that was impressive. Drop down into the 228/232 or 230/232 range on a 112-113+4. You'll get better results and more TQ.
-Comp 918 springs work just fine with an XE-R lobe if set up properly. No need to buy a heavy spring that's going to cost you power unless you're running .600-.620 lift with a square lobe.


In closing, stop reading the parts catalogs and making your decisions off of vendors claims. Do some research. You can achieve your goals for a lot less money. I do it every day.
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Thanks Man, I posted this then Started doin alot of research. And I changed my WHOLE mod list and you just made me change it a little more. Lol. But I have also been lookin for ls6 shortblocks to incase I find one cheap.
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and for 1200 I can get a forged 408 Pistons and crank kit. Is it a good Deal?
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Originally Posted by vetteboy99
Thanks Man, I posted this then Started doin alot of research. And I changed my WHOLE mod list and you just made me change it a little more. Lol. But I have also been lookin for ls6 shortblocks to incase I find one cheap.
you can't buy them brand new. gm only sells the longblock for a 04 ZO6. you can buy them used but if your like me you wont do that lol i'm just goin to buy a LS6 longblock then sell the brand new heads and cam to make some money back, plus i have some damn good heads and a cam anyway lol
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and for 1200 I can get a forged 408 Pistons and crank kit. Is it a good Deal?
yes and no. lean more towards the no part cause unless your an engine builder your still goin to have to buy a block and have it machined etc etc etc so your better off goin through a good place to get a engine already built. and yeah talk with ron at vengeance, give him a call if pm doesn't get answered. personally i'd suggest a ported 102 with a 92tb, i'm no genius but even i know you wont need a 102 tb




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