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Old 06-06-2010, 10:25 AM
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I am in need of a rear in order to go racing. I am pretty sure I want to get the S60 as for why that would be cost. I know I'll never see 700hp but would be more then likely hit 500hp. Car is a manual

I was looking at the options and want some opinions......
it says it ships with a chrome cover but in the pic shows a black with a big S is this an option?
Do I want to upgrade to a locker?
Car is lowered and have LCA drops do you need special brackets for the S60?
Do I need new sway bar mounts?

also looking into the PST aluminum driveshaft any complaints?

let me know what you think
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What are your mods?
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I have an S60 in my car which is a manual like yours and I ordered it with a trutrac gear driven lsd and the cast aluminum cover. I have decided to install a Detroit locker and a T/A girdle so I'm selling the trutrac, cover and the 3.73 gears. I love mine no problems at all and you can use any lca relocation brackets, the only drawback is the S60 is the heaviest of all the rears but it's also the strongest.
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I think i'm going S60. I'm not building an all out drag car where i care about the lightest possible parts. I want a rear end that i can dump 5000k rpms on, and never worry about replacing it
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Originally Posted by deelong4002
I think i'm going S60. I'm not building an all out drag car where i care about the lightest possible parts. I want a rear end that i can dump 5000k rpms on, and never worry about replacing it
If that's the case, I would go with the 9".
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I run an S60. I was lucky to get mine when they first came out and my friend gave us a sweet deal on them. If you want the strongest possible, then go with a spool. A spool is bulletproof, it weighs about 30-40lbs less than a posi, and it costs about $350 less. You will eat tires more frequently because the inside tire is always scrubbing on turns but it's not too bad. If you drive your car daily, then get a posi, because more than likely you will encounter some rain. I wouldn't even think of driving a spooled car with slicks or drag radials in the rain. That is a big no-no. I have been caught in a light rain a few times, and I quickly get off of the thruway and take side streets home. The aluminum cover with the "S" on it is an option, and I could have sworn they don't use them anymore. There were 2 axle choices when I ordered mine as well. There were the street axles that say S/T on the ends, and there were the hy-tuff (sp) that say Strange on the ends. I got mine with the better axles, the bigger studs, the optional cover, and it was $1899. They arrived at my friends shop (all 6 of them) on pallets a few weeks later. We weighed them all. Mine was 180-185lbs (can't remember exactly), the heaviest was a 3.54 equipped posi one for an LSx car which was over 230lbs. A stock 10-bolt weighs around 160-165. If your car sees a lot of street/strip action and you don't drive it daily, and you only take it out when it's nice out, then get a spool. It's a no-brainer. They can handle 1500+hp, they weigh less,they cost less, and your car will be faster than a posi unit.
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S60 here with a tru-trac installed last year. Love the rear and the install was very straightforward. It saw ~20 5K+ RPM clutch dumps last year at the track spraying the juice and not a peep from the rear.

I went with the upgraded cover as I heard the chrome may have tendencies to leak.

Spool will be the strongest for obvious reasons but I don't take mine to the track enough for that.
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
What are your mods?
right now CC503 and full bolt on's, headers, no cat borla full BMR CM suspension
problem is 3k dumps on drag radials broke my rear when it wasnt cammed and I really want a strong rear so I can really dump the clutch

Originally Posted by joelster
I run an S60. I was lucky to get mine when they first came out and my friend gave us a sweet deal on them. If you want the strongest possible, then go with a spool. A spool is bulletproof, it weighs about 30-40lbs less than a posi, and it costs about $350 less. You will eat tires more frequently because the inside tire is always scrubbing on turns but it's not too bad
I hear if you run low profile tires you will def have trouble running a spool which I have till I can get BS street lites in a 15
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Originally Posted by HottestZ28
right now CC503 and full bolt on's, headers, no cat borla full BMR CM suspension
problem is 3k dumps on drag radials broke my rear when it wasnt cammed and I really want a strong rear so I can really dump the clutch


I hear if you run low profile tires you will def have trouble running a spool which I have till I can get BS street lites in a 15
Well you have to make a decision as to whether or not you want *bling *bling 18's with 315/35ZR18's or if you want traction. I get about 2500-3000 miles out of my Hoosier QTP's, one full season. The car will go out 3-4 days a week just farting around and heading out to car cruises, and the occasional track romp here and there.
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For you guys considering going with a locker I hope you have driven a car with one before you get it. If you car is a street/strip car I wouldn't recomend it. I had a 9" in mine with a Detroit locker 35 spline axles and it was brutal on the street. Banged and clunked around every turn, it was pretty rough. I finally traded it for the moser 12 bolt, the 9" was overkill for my needs. Unless it's a track only car I would stay away from it.
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
If that's the case, I would go with the 9".
I'm a rear end noob, as I don't even crack the 300hp mark. So I haven't searched/studied them thoroughly.

Why do you say the 9" fits his needs?

Don't they involve alot of fabrication to work on our cars?
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Originally Posted by joelster
Well you have to make a decision as to whether or not you want *bling *bling 18's with 315/35ZR18's or if you want traction. I get about 2500-3000 miles out of my Hoosier QTP's, one full season. The car will go out 3-4 days a week just farting around and heading out to car cruises, and the occasional track romp here and there.
not running 18 but for now and for a while I have TT2 17 x 9 and running MT drags
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Originally Posted by Torque Fiend
I'm a rear end noob, as I don't even crack the 300hp mark. So I haven't searched/studied them thoroughly.

Why do you say the 9" fits his needs?

Don't they involve alot of fabrication to work on our cars?
All the rears in this thread are from companys that build them to be direct fit. Now back to the thread if you are only going to make around 500hp I would look for a used 12 bolt.
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You could probably get away with a 12 bolt and tru trac.

If you are M6 and want bulletproof I would not go with a trutrac, peroid. The manufactures changed and they are not what they used to be. If you can deal with a spool do that, if not get a wavetrac (lifetime no-matter what warranty)

S60 is heavy, does have a bigger 3rd member and bolts right in.
9" moser or MWC, lots of options, lighter and pretty close to bulletproof


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Get a 9" with a spool, wavetrac or detroit locker in 35 spline with an aftermarket iron case.
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I say save some coin and get an 8.8.....if you're only looking to push 500rwhp, it'll last forever and probably cost half as much as any of the previously mentioned rearends.....just me though
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I am all GM all the way and if the 12 bolt was worth a sh*t it would already be in my car. I have heard many times that a 12 bolt has inferior torque arm mounts and can't handle hard launches on sticky tires (even strange says if you plan on racing get the S60). I really need a rear that is cheaper and a 9 in from MWC is going to cost a good deal more then a S60 I would love to get a MWC but it would be over 3000 easy
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Well, putting anything but a 10 or 12 bolt in you car kills the whole gm all the way idea...Just trying to give you some alternative options.....bigest issue with the 8.8 is fabbing up the tq arm mount.....but there are solutions
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Does anyone even do 8.8 fab stuff anymore or is that all on your own? I few guys here used to do/sell it.

OP, how much do you drive the car on the street? If minimal then get a spool, unbreakable and the best option. I'll be doing a spooled 9" for the race car.
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I’m going with the Mid West Chassis Fab9 with the aluminum Strange center section and Wavetrac posi. MWC said this setup is slightly lighter than the stock rear. I’m figuring it’ll be good to 6-700 HP. Going with a nodular center section surely will allow 800 HP.

I’ve read here on LS1tech that good power and hooking with a 12 bolt will result in gear whine.

I’d say the he S60 is needed above 800 HP. It’s very heavy.


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