View Full Version : C7 Corvette to get new small block engine - is the Camaro next?


SEMA2009
06-29-2010, 09:25 PM
Fairly hot off the presses...the next gen Corvette is expected to get a new 5.5L engine stemming from GMs new small block facility investment. Likely using direct injection..offering around 440hp...still with pushrods.

C7 to get new 5.5L V8...click here for more (http://www.examiner.com/x-8811-Detroit-Autos-Examiner~y2010m6d29-The-C7-Corvette-will-feature-a-new-small-block-V8)

Typically the Camaro is close to follow when the Vette gets a new engine so this could be the next step for the Camaro as well.

pro94lt
06-29-2010, 09:48 PM
Wonder how easy it will be to modd?

SEMA2009
06-29-2010, 10:57 PM
I dont know, but Im hoping that the new engine (if this proves to be true) is for 2012. That would mean that we may see something as soon as the LA Auto Show later this year if it was set to debut as a 2012, late in the 2011 calendar year. That is depending on the fact that this engine is that close to being ready without anyone talking about it before...

BADZ71
06-29-2010, 11:50 PM
Wonder how easy it will be to modd?

If it's anything like the 2.0L turbo and the 3.6L in the Camaro, all
run by BOSCH systems, not very fun to tune. I'm sure with this info coming out that there are many tuning companies doing alot of research.
Especially since Ford has also made engines with direct injection.

battousai
06-29-2010, 11:54 PM
they did make one mistake...can expect to see the new 5.5L V8 in the modern F-Bodies sometime after the C7 Corvette drops.

djsanchez2
06-29-2010, 11:57 PM
I cant wait for the GM DI V8 to come out. Assuming they figure out the tuning software it should make so pretty sick power.

demonspeed
06-29-2010, 11:58 PM
I would wager that this will be placed into the 6th generation Camaro on the smaller Alpha platform. I believe we will see that Camaro sooner than later. I have no facts to support this, but it's just a feeling.

Ke^in
06-30-2010, 07:21 AM
I just hope it wont look like the Transformers Vette.

SEMA2009
06-30-2010, 08:49 AM
I would wager that this will be placed into the 6th generation Camaro on the smaller Alpha platform. I believe we will see that Camaro sooner than later. I have no facts to support this, but it's just a feeling.

when you piece together all of the little rumors here and there about development of the next gen camaro and then consider how competitive the mustang has suddenly gotten, i would agree that chevy will have something for the camaro soon. i know that the Z28 is constantly teased but in the battle between the Mustang and Camaro, I dont think that a high dollar GT500-fighter is going to be the answer. On the other hand, a lighter, more powerful Camaro SS would do the trick...

battousai, I understand that the new camaro isnt actually an Fbody since its on the zeta platform but i still frequently see the late model camaros including in the fbody family...perhaps i should have put it in quotes or something.

Ke^in
06-30-2010, 08:58 AM
The problem GM faces is keeping the Camaro below Vette performance, while competing with Ford on the GT and Cobra. That's going to be a difficult task IMHO.

I was told the 5th gen would need a complete redo to make it lighter. Meaning different platform.

If I had a 4th gen, I'd hang on to it IMHO. It will soon be the fox body of the GM world.

SEMA2009
06-30-2010, 09:10 AM
The problem GM faces is keeping the Camaro below Vette performance, while competing with Ford on the GT and Cobra. That's going to be a difficult task IMHO.

I was told the 5th gen would need a complete redo to make it lighter. Meaning different platform.

If I had a 4th gen, I'd hang on to it IMHO. It will soon be the fox body of the GM world.

I agree. They could easily insert an LS7, LS9 or LSA into the Camaro and have a car that would make short work of most of what Ford can offer but how do you price it? If you price it somewhat inline with the other Camaro models, you are grossly undercutting the Corvette or Caddy that usually carries the given engine...but if you price it as high as the Corvette or Caddy, how many people are going to buy it?

Say that they put an LSA into the Camaro...tacked on some handling goodies and called the the Z28. You essentially have a car that is very similar to the CTSV and the V costs upwards of 60 grand. I dont think that you can charge 60 grand for this imaginary Z28 unless you add more of the features of the CTSV, but thats not what the Camaro is all about...so you would think that it woudl be priced lower but if you give the Z28 556hp and say, the magnetic ride control, how badly will you be cutting into CTSV sales? Also, even if the Camaro Z28 in this case did cost 62,000, it could possibly compete with the Z06 and it costs 12,000 less...

GMRL
06-30-2010, 09:27 AM
I read on another site that the gen 5 motors will be 5.5 6.2 and 7.0 VVT pushrod DI motors.
Also if you look at the vin of 2010 Camaros, the 4th digit is still an F.

demonspeed
06-30-2010, 10:27 AM
i know that the Z28 is constantly teased but in the battle between the Mustang and Camaro, I dont think that a high dollar GT500-fighter is going to be the answer. On the other hand, a lighter, more powerful Camaro SS would do the trick...

I agree. While a LSA Z28 will be great, at a ~$50k price tag, it's not what is needed to compete with the bread and butter Mustang/Camaro battle.

Also if you look at the vin of 2010 Camaros, the 4th digit is still an F.

Yes, and Scott Settlemire said they did that on purpose to keep with the "f-body" name.

skorpion317
06-30-2010, 11:04 AM
The 5.5L V8 will be a race-only engine. It's going into the C6.Rs this year, I believe. From what I've heard, there are only two production Gen V displacements - 5.3L and 6.2L. They both should have direct injection.

As for the 6th gen Camaro, it will be on Alpha. Cadillac is doing most of the design work on the chassis, though. It will "trickle down" after they get their first Alpha model out.

SEMA2009
06-30-2010, 11:10 AM
The 5.5L V8 will be a race-only engine. It's going into the C6.Rs this year, I believe. From what I've heard, there are only two production Gen V displacements - 5.3L and 6.2L. They both should have direct injection.

As for the 6th gen Camaro, it will be on Alpha. Cadillac is doing most of the design work on the chassis, though. It will "trickle down" after they get their first Alpha model out.

is that some inside information there, or just some rumors youve heard?

is there a chance that they are bringing the 5.5L out early as a race-only engine for the C6R to hype it up for production in a year or two?

skorpion317
06-30-2010, 11:19 AM
is that some inside information there, or just some rumors youve heard?

is there a chance that they are bringing the 5.5L out early as a race-only engine for the C6R to hype it up for production in a year or two?

Call it unconfirmed information from a reliable source.

The 5.5L will be a race-only engine. IIRC, it has something to do with engine size limits in the GT2 class, which Corvette Racing has moved to this season.

SEMA2009
06-30-2010, 11:33 AM
Call it unconfirmed information from a reliable source.

The 5.5L will be a race-only engine. IIRC, it has something to do with engine size limits in the GT2 class, which Corvette Racing has moved to this season.

Very interesting...thanks for the info. It will be interesting to see what comes out in the next few months from GM...

Dark SS
06-30-2010, 02:02 PM
Yes, and Scott Settlemire said they did that on purpose to keep with the "f-body" name.

Yup, plus GM doesn't use alphanumeric chassis designations anymore. They are now Zeta, Lambda, Epsilon and so on.

1995blacktattop
06-30-2010, 02:15 PM
I think he was referencing the fact that the article says "fbodies" implying there are 2 of them which isn't true anymore since there is no Firebird :(

SEMA2009
06-30-2010, 03:02 PM
I think he was referencing the fact that the article says "fbodies" implying there are 2 of them which isn't true anymore since there is no Firebird :(

I thought that he was correcting me on the fact that they arent technically f-bodies anymore...

and there is a firebird...LPE makes it...:cool:

demonspeed
06-30-2010, 03:11 PM
The 5.5L will be a race-only engine. IIRC, it has something to do with engine size limits in the GT2 class, which Corvette Racing has moved to this season.

This information is official. I believe it was announced several months ago.

djsanchez2
06-30-2010, 06:59 PM
^^ Correct also the fact that Katech will not be building their engines anymore, it will be done in-house by the GMPP division.

IIRC i think they might be staying with Pratt and Miller for the chassis building though.

1995blacktattop
06-30-2010, 09:30 PM
I thought that he was correcting me on the fact that they arent technically f-bodies anymore...

and there is a firebird...LPE makes it...:cool:

that is a camaro converted to a firebird. it's not a pontiac and will not be titled as one. unless they somehow buy the rights to pontiac and firebird and can title the car as such, its still a camaro.