Cadillac CTS-V - Installed the GC kit and..... Need some advice..
CTSvRolledOUT
07-02-2010, 12:06 PM
Installed the ground control kit and the car is not very low.. I got the thing as low as it will go in the rear.. it may have lowered it an inch if that!! What do I need to get her a little lower?? Some mighty mouse spacers? cut the bump stops? or what??? will it settle down any?? I have no drove the car yet, they only thing I have done is got it off jacks and back on the ground..
let me know what I need to do..
Thanks
nikon
07-02-2010, 02:17 PM
The shocks won't pump back up till you drive around...so if you just set it down thats the height it's gonna be if you got the shocks sorted out properly. It'll settle down some, not that much though...don't know as I don't have the GC kit.
CTSvRolledOUT
07-02-2010, 03:35 PM
its alll the way down in the rear, no more adjustment and it maybe lowered the car a half inch or a hair more.. it needs a inch more or so..
SoJersey05V
07-02-2010, 03:56 PM
what shocks are you running? factory shocks are self leveling and will try and correct to stock height, so with it slammed as far as it goes and the shocks trying to correct it, it will raise it some. i have the qa1 shocks and they arent self leveling and i can sit my rear sheetmetal on the tire no problem
tityrous
07-02-2010, 05:09 PM
I'm on qa1's also and the rear can defiantly go down to the tire!
im not all the way down in the rear. I have about a 1/4 inch to go. From the lip of the rear fender down the center of the axle its 27inches to the ground. When i take my car off the lift i drive it around the shop and repark it so everything is settled. 27 inches on all 4 corners and the tires will scuff the fenders every now and then.
Remo
CTSvRolledOUT
07-02-2010, 10:25 PM
I have the factory shocks...
and Remo, now that you have told me your story what are you running..
I'm still not getting any answers.
I would like to fix the situation before I get the car all put back together..
thanks
VeryWhiteDevil
07-03-2010, 07:56 AM
I have the GC kit and fenders are sitting on tires. did you install the spacers on the shocks??
ITSAV
07-03-2010, 10:27 AM
I have the GC kit and fenders are sitting on tires. did you install the spacers on the shocks??
this looks to be the problem, if your running on stock shocks, make sure the spacers are there
CTSvRolledOUT
07-03-2010, 05:35 PM
hell I guess i installed the spacers.. I installed everything the kit came with.. even did the feffman fix in the rear..
CTSvRolledOUT
07-03-2010, 05:36 PM
the only spacer I saw was the small one that goes inside the taller spacer... which both of those sit inside a black rubber stop.
tweeter81
07-06-2010, 10:40 AM
I have the GC Kit as well and mine is as low as it can go in the rear and I still would like it to be an inch lower (I have about 1.5" fender gap now, but I am running a 30 series tire in the rear which makes for a big fender gap). I have two sets of Eibach springs, so I think I am going to cut a coil off of one rear set and see how that works. Or I might just replace my FG2 shocks with some QA1s and see what that does for the rear ride height.
I does take about a week or so (and driving over a variety of surfaces to really work the springs) for the springs and suspension to really settle in to what the ride height is going to be. That is my experience anyway.
tityrous
07-06-2010, 05:02 PM
I have the GC Kit as well and mine is as low as it can go in the rear and I still would like it to be an inch lower (I have about 1.5" fender gap now, but I am running a 30 series tire in the rear which makes for a big fender gap). I have two sets of Eibach springs, so I think I am going to cut a coil off of one rear set and see how that works. Or I might just replace my FG2 shocks with some QA1s and see what that does for the rear ride height.
I does take about a week or so (and driving over a variety of surfaces to really work the springs) for the springs and suspension to really settle in to what the ride height is going to be. That is my experience anyway.
here is a shot of our car right now with 35 series tires on and almost an inch to drop in the back!
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/tityrous/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG00436-20100705-1934.jpg
tweeter81
07-06-2010, 09:24 PM
Here is mine with a 2" fender gap in the rear (the tire sidewall is about 2.25" tall):
I would be happy with 1" lower.
tony tone
07-07-2010, 08:52 AM
oh the woes i bypassed doing it right the first time.
good luck op.
tweeter81
07-07-2010, 09:38 AM
oh the woes i bypassed doing it right the first time.
good luck op.
If by doing it "right" you mean spending an extra $4000-$5000 on your wheels/suspension than most of us did, then yes, you really did it "right". Most of the other V owners have used that extra money saved by not breaking the bank on wheels and actually spent it on mods that make the car faster. Some of us like a little go with our show.
I'm not saying your car isn't cool, just merely pointing out that the money spent to get it there (read: sits about 1" lower than other lowered Vs, custom color-matched wheels, etc.) is astronomical.
Not to mention, for those of us who have actually had a V since '04 or '05, the only lowering kit available was the GC Kit until probably late '07. Most of us V veterans didn't have another choice if we wanted our car lowered.
tony tone
07-07-2010, 03:30 PM
I think you took my post a little bit out of proportion...
and at what point were wheels part of the discussion?
To clarify, by doing it right I mean eliminating the problem all together by replacing the self-leveling nonsense with another solution. You can choose another shock + spring combo, but why when they're just as expensive combined as a complete coil-over solution.
When I found out we had to use some spacers to fool the car from auto-leveling, I immediately sensed a long journey of headaches, so I bought k-sports which brought all new shocks and eliminated my concern as well as giving me what I wanted in heigh adjustment.
Take it easy, Tweeter, no need to get all direct and shit, but my apologies if you feel I may have been direct myself.
tony tone
07-07-2010, 03:30 PM
*edit* double post
tweeter81
07-07-2010, 03:51 PM
It's all good. No offense taken, or meant. :D
ferny
07-07-2010, 03:55 PM
I agree with tony. it was a pain in the ass to get my car to sit right. a big pain! i dont know how many times i took the springs and shocks off the car just to rig them right. if i had the cash i would do the same as you tony. some people rather spend the money on looks (wheels, stereo, paint) and some rather go faster (headers, supercharger, etc) thats what forums are all about! checking out other peoples rides. cant all be the same!
:D
tony tone
07-07-2010, 03:59 PM
see, the thing is I would think most would consider the coil-overs a performance mod.
shit, Jamie does and so do I. well, maybe 50/50 on the performance/appearance for me, lol. nothing other than bags was going to get me to adjust my height to my preference.
bamacaddy
07-07-2010, 05:14 PM
see, the thing is I would think most would consider the coil-overs a performance mod.
shit, Jamie does and so do I. well, maybe 50/50 on the performance/appearance for me, lol. nothing other than bags was going to get me to adjust my height to my preference.
It is what it is....I will say that you have one of the best looking V's I've seen as of yet. If it had a blown motor that beeotch would still be turning heads.:chug:
apexman
07-07-2010, 05:51 PM
Both photos posted look great. I wouldn't go any lower than that. It needs to be balanced. Again, those cars look nice the way they are. Maybe replace the shocks with some Bilstein or Konis. Uprade the swaybars if you haven't already and the improvment will make you forget that it isn't bumping the fenders on the tires now and then.
tweeter81
07-07-2010, 07:36 PM
Both photos posted look great. I wouldn't go any lower than that. It needs to be balanced. Again, those cars look nice the way they are. Maybe replace the shocks with some Bilstein or Konis. Uprade the swaybars if you haven't already and the improvment will make you forget that it isn't bumping the fenders on the tires now and then.
Bilstein and Koni do not make shocks for our cars. The only two options that I know of for just buying shocks for V1s are Penske (way too expensive) and QA1. That is the main problem, we have to make do with an extremely limited aftermarket for our cars.
CTSvRolledOUT
07-07-2010, 11:54 PM
mines about an inch in the rear.. needs to be another Half inch.. Mine looks like everyone else s pics... not low :( i dont want it slammed i am just trying to get a happy medium here
VeryWhiteDevil
07-08-2010, 01:30 AM
i think the 35 series tire on the 18 makes it look gappy. I run the 275/40 Invos and they appear to soak up all my space.http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/verywhitedevil/r1.jpg
sorry the bike is in the way, but you get the idea
EdmundGTP
07-08-2010, 12:16 PM
You run 275's in both the front and the rear??
apexman
07-08-2010, 10:30 PM
@Tweeter81
I was afraid of that. I didn't think about it till after I posted. I just assumed they would make em for V's. Hell, I have a set of Konis on my 95 Dodge 4x4! I would probably get a set of GC's with the FG2's like you have with a little less spring rate. With the addition of some swaybars of coarse.
apexman
07-08-2010, 10:30 PM
@Tweeter81
I was afraid of that. I didn't think about it till after I posted. I just assumed they would make em for V's. Hell, I have a set of Konis on my 95 Dodge 4x4! I would probably get a set of GC's with the FG2's like you have with a little less spring rate. With the addition of some swaybars of coarse.
VeryWhiteDevil
07-08-2010, 11:02 PM
You run 275's in both the front and the rear??
275/40/18 out back 245/45/18 up front
i am running FG2's & GC 500/550
rjwz28
07-10-2010, 06:08 AM
Nice setups. I will be keeping these in mind.