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Old 07-05-2010, 07:07 PM
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My 1997 camaro z28 m6 manual say using 80w90 with gm additive, can I run synthetic with gm additive , reason I want run synthetic cause it last longer, any one here running mobil 1 75w90 with gm additive, does it whining ? I heard mobil 1 gear oil make gear whining.
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If it says to use an additive then you must have an Auburn posi which is a clutch type posi, auburn recommends that you do not use sythetic, they say you must use non syn. When the rear end shop installed my Auburn and used a 75-140 and additive the diff would squall because it wasn't releasing enough, they had to go back with regular 80-90 and additive to fix the problem.

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Amsoil sever gear has the additive in the mixture and is synthetic safe for clutch pads in your rear end. I use it in everything I own and been using it for years
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so you sayt my 97 z28 m6 rear end cant run synthetic ?
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Originally Posted by killagt
so you sayt my 97 z28 m6 rear end cant run synthetic ?
You probably can, but if you have an auburn posi unit, then auburn advises against it. I think you will be ok if you do, just make sure to put around 6-8oz of modifier in there if its a auburn posi
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We run the synthetic oil only when the circumstances or the enviorment dictates the need for synthetic. Street car not creating an abnormal amount of heat will not need a synthetic oil. As stated above, a lot of aftermarket positraction manufactures are steering away from the synthetic as they are finding it has been problematic with the clutches and clutch surfaces.

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it wont wreck the clutches , but it might not operate correctly
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Originally Posted by blackmagicturbo
it wont wreck the clutches , but it might not operate correctly
Depends on the type of positraction. Synthetic Oil + Eaton Positraction = Bad Results
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Originally Posted by Jawsgear
Depends on the type of positraction. Synthetic Oil + Eaton Positraction = Bad Results
Thats good to know stuff, thanks for the info Jawsgear, its always cool to see a interactive and knowledge sharing sponsor.
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how often do I need to change on dino 80w90 gear oil ? reason i dont like use dino oil cause I dont like to change it often.
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I find it odd that yours calls for 80w90 + additive while mine calls for synthetic 75w-90 with additive. I do not have the Auburn posi so idk why it calls for that. Did all the later ls1 cars call for synthetic + additive?
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Originally Posted by AR15 guy
I find it odd that yours calls for 80w90 + additive while mine calls for synthetic 75w-90 with additive. I do not have the Auburn posi so idk why it calls for that. Did all the later ls1 cars call for synthetic + additive?
Mine is a 2000 and does not call for use of additive.
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gasket or rtv for rear end ? is factory use gasket or rtv ?
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We just used a Fel-pro gasket on mine and it was leak free. The axle seals were a different story...
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We just used a Fel-pro gasket on mine and it was leak free. The axle seals were a different story...
do you use any rtv on the gasket or just gasket alone ?
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Originally Posted by killagt
do you use any rtv on the gasket or just gasket alone ?
Use one or the other, not both. I have been a tech over 10 years and resealed way more rear end covers than I can count. I like the gasket better just because its cleaner, but either work very well.
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Originally Posted by 00pooterSS
Use one or the other, not both. I have been a tech over 10 years and resealed way more rear end covers than I can count. I like the gasket better just because its cleaner, but either work very well.
This is first time I change with gasket, I use to do it with black sillicon, since im require to use dino gear oil I have to change out every 7.5k to 8k ( every year ), with silicon, i HATE scrub that stuff off . since with gasket it made change out easy no more scrubing. btw dont u love that smell since u change out so much just wonder the smell still bother u ?
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Originally Posted by killagt
This is first time I change with gasket, I use to do it with black sillicon, since im require to use dino gear oil I have to change out every 7.5k to 8k ( every year ), with silicon, i HATE scrub that stuff off . since with gasket it made change out easy no more scrubing. btw dont u love that smell since u change out so much just wonder the smell still bother u ?
Oh no dude the hate of the smell never goes away, and really you could put more than 7-8k on the dino oil, but you are definately not hurting it. But one thing that could help you is if you get a girdle, like a MAC or a Jegs girdle (differential cover) they have drain and fill plugs in them so you can just use the plugs instead of pulling it off.

Did you ever determine if you even had an auburn so that you would know if you had to use dino rather than synthetic?
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Originally Posted by 00pooterSS
Oh no dude the hate of the smell never goes away, and really you could put more than 7-8k on the dino oil, but you are definately not hurting it. But one thing that could help you is if you get a girdle, like a MAC or a Jegs girdle (differential cover) they have drain and fill plugs in them so you can just use the plugs instead of pulling it off.

Did you ever determine if you even had an auburn so that you would know if you had to use dino rather than synthetic?
Im turn my phone off on saturday night and working on rear diff. Here what I have so far today

2 quart of valvoline 80w90 dino
1 bottle of ford friction mod ( got few more bottle from my old mustang )
1 fel-pro gasket
blue tower and brake cleaner

When I pull the cover off, I will post pix here.
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Originally Posted by killagt
Im turn my phone off on saturday night and working on rear diff. Here what I have so far today

2 quart of valvoline 80w90 dino
1 bottle of ford friction mod ( got few more bottle from my old mustang )
1 fel-pro gasket
blue tower and brake cleaner

When I pull the cover off, I will post pix here.
PM me when you do and I should get an alert on my phone and ill let you know so you dont have as much down time


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