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Exhaust setup, bullet mufflers straight off of the collectors. What clamps?

Old 07-09-2010, 11:54 PM
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Default Exhaust setup, bullet mufflers straight off of the collectors. What clamps?

So I'm getting the ole bird back in a few weeks (been outta town) and she needs exhaust for me to even try to get her inspected. Out in the boondocks where my Dad lives just so long as you have mufflers you can get a tag so I'm wanting to run some bullet mufflers right off of the header collectors.

This isn't my daily and I will only really use it at the track and for Sat night cruises so noise isn't the main concern, I don't wanna get pulled over all the time but loud WOT would be awesome. I'm thinking of picking up either 2 Spiralflows or 2 Dynomax bullets and was wondering what people would use to couple these to the collectors. I don't want to weld them on there b/c it's a PITA when I want to work on something that requires the headers to come off. Ideas?
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Band clamps seal the best next to welding.
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Originally Posted by whytryz28
Band clamps seal the best next to welding.
U-clamps seal better than band clamps (by crimping the pipe), but make removing the pipe a pain in the ***.

Band clamps have the benefit of easy removal/installation though.
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if you have pace setters and 3" bullets you will find out the collector on the pace setter is not a true 3" collector,i bent up a strip of aluminum and used it as a filler when i mocked my bullets up,,
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U-bolt clamps seal well but make disassembly a PITA.
Band clamps do not seal well but do make disassembly easy.

The best clamp hands down period. They seal tight and dont indent the pipes.
Accuseal clamps.
http://www.amazon.com/Torca-AccuSeal.../dp/B002VR1V26
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I would love to know how this will sound. Anyone have a clip?
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Are you using any extension or just the bullet directly off the collector? Also are you having turndowns or not?
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I haven't thought about using an extension but I will have turndowns b/c otherwise it will just be too loud off idle and I don't wanna get pulled over for driving slowly. Any reason to use extensions?

BTW I have Hooker ceramic coated LT's
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
U-bolt clamps seal well but make disassembly a PITA.
Band clamps do not seal well but do make disassembly easy.

The best clamp hands down period. They seal tight and dont indent the pipes.
Accuseal clamps.
http://www.amazon.com/Torca-AccuSeal.../dp/B002VR1V26
Last time I used one of those when I finally got it off I drop kicked it across my lawn.
I'm sure it was my fault but I personally do not use those clamps anymore
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Originally Posted by SlowestTransAm
Last time I used one of those when I finally got it off I drop kicked it across my lawn.
I'm sure it was my fault but I personally do not use those clamps anymore
There is a trick to using them.
Only tighten them just enough to make a good seal and make damn sure you have some slices on the top and bottom of the female pipe so it can "conform".

If the clamps are overtightened, the threads will get damaged on the bolt and it will jam up permanently. At that point you force the stud to break with some muscle and the clamp falls off.

The beauty is they will not damage the pipes and the pipes will easily separate.

The last time I pulled my old Borla catback off to sell, it took hours to separate two pipes due to the crease that was made by the u-bolts. I used heat, PB blaster and my wifes help to pull them apart. We looked like two monkeys trying to bang open a coconut with a rock and I am sure the neighbors were laughing themselves to death. After all that ****, never again. Now a worst, I waste a clamp.
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Yea I'd like something that doesn't bend the pipe b/c that's a PITA. Would you guys recommend an extension? I'm thinking two 3" bullets about 18" long with turndowns and maybe some extensions if that will help with the clamps.
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Just to throw it out there...If I was you I'd run a ORY and put a bullet style muffler on the end of that with a turndown. It would probaly help keep the exhaust gases out of the car a little better while being a little quieter too, just my .02.
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Yea I'd thought about that. My first inclination was to get whatever was cheapest b/c I didn't care about having it all that quiet, but now I may be leaning more towards an ORY setup just for noise violations. ORY's are fairly expensive compared to dumped bullets tho.
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Originally Posted by I8ASaleen
Yea I'd thought about that. My first inclination was to get whatever was cheapest b/c I didn't care about having it all that quiet, but now I may be leaning more towards an ORY setup just for noise violations. ORY's are fairly expensive compared to dumped bullets tho.
Yea that is the downside. I'm not sure how the cops are around you but if you went the ORY and saved yourself a ticket you would be ahead overall. Either way it will be pretty damn loud so you will run the risk regardless but it will sound sick at WOT
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
Just to throw it out there...If I was you I'd run a ORY and put a bullet style muffler on the end of that with a turndown. It would probaly help keep the exhaust gases out of the car a little better while being a little quieter too, just my .02.
I had just that^^^^ and it was weak sounding IMO (well at least compaired with my old TDs) So I picked up a 3"cut out and added after the y-pipe b4 the bullet and it sounds much better. I was thinking about going straight bullets of the collector but wouldnt the DS sit funny or really not fit with the header angle???
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You could also get a 3-bolt flange welded on. Thats a good seal and easy to remove.
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Originally Posted by Speed Density
You could also get a 3-bolt flange welded on. Thats a good seal and easy to remove.
Hooker LT's come with 3 bolt flanges unless they changed them.
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Originally Posted by Speed Density
You could also get a 3-bolt flange welded on. Thats a good seal and easy to remove.
I f'in hate these. The gaskets blow out and the flanges get bent from the constant gasket replacements. Plus a possible minor loss of ground clearance.
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fwiw i have the regular band clamps from summit and they dont seal for ****. I'm eventually going to use v bands at all my connections but for now I'm getting my rear end so thats taken a back seat
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
I f'in hate these. The gaskets blow out and the flanges get bent from the constant gasket replacements. Plus a possible minor loss of ground clearance.
I never had a problem with any of that.


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