Drag Racing Tech - How do you guys race your 4l60e autos?




Frametwista
07-28-2010, 02:56 PM
My gear selector in my ta has d 3 2 1 which is the best gear for drag racing? thx in advance.


blk/slvr02ss
07-28-2010, 03:08 PM
I leave mine in drive for my best results.

KevinR
07-28-2010, 03:08 PM
I just leave it in D. I don't manually shift the car.


custm2500
07-28-2010, 05:14 PM
Do not shift. You won't help and often will hurt your times.

second_2_none
07-28-2010, 06:18 PM
I just leave it in drive as well. I have a built trans so I couldnt shift faster than it anyways.

custm2500
07-28-2010, 06:35 PM
If you were to have amanual valve body you would have to shift but I don't know if the make a manual valve body for the 60e.

Just playing devil's advicate so no one would bring it up.

minytrker
07-28-2010, 07:13 PM
If you were to have amanual valve body you would have to shift but I don't know if the make a manual valve body for the 60e.

Just playing devil's advicate so no one would bring it up.

They make one for the 4l60e but you aint going to out shift a computer.

skat
07-28-2010, 08:32 PM
Same here leave it in "D".

The Guy in MY 99TA
07-28-2010, 10:34 PM
I always shifted mine manually... never helped though... it was just something I did.

BADHAWK51
07-28-2010, 10:50 PM
Leave it in 3 you don't want the car to shift in to overdrive it will kill your times.
Although I don't think it will shift to overdrive at WOT.

droksformula
07-29-2010, 01:09 AM
Oh it Will shift into overdrive at WOT lol, I leave it in 3.

Squirts11
07-29-2010, 01:27 AM
Oh it Will shift into overdrive at WOT lol, I leave it in 3.

I thought the computer wouldn't allow a WOT shift into overdrive.

SMALLBLOCKHERO
07-29-2010, 01:31 AM
i leave it in 3 as well. or itll hit OD at the 1000ft mark for me

BennyB
07-29-2010, 11:11 AM
yeah i leave the TA in drive not 3 for all of my racing, but its funny bc i was actually wondering about this myself recently... good read.

3.8redbird
07-29-2010, 11:19 AM
I run a 700r4 which is a 4l60e just without the comp. I hold it in gear since my weights want it to shift at 4500 instead of 5200 where I want it to. If your shift point is tuned right then leave it in drive or 3rd

droksformula
07-29-2010, 01:17 PM
Well I have never gotten the car tuned, and it will shift into 4th with the pedal mashed to the floor somewhere around 120-125mph.

Frametwista
07-29-2010, 02:12 PM
My car is tuned and the trans is built Now will it go into overdrive at wot?

custm2500
07-29-2010, 05:24 PM
OD at WOT will destroy shit if you are making good power! OD is meant for cruising and not excelerating, especialy if giving it hell.

I would think factory the car shouldn't shift in to OD at wot so I am guessing the guys with that problem have custom tunes and had that changed.(not sure why)

droksformula
07-30-2010, 12:05 AM
OD at WOT will destroy shit if you are making good power! OD is meant for cruising and not excelerating, especialy if giving it hell.

I would think factory the car shouldn't shift in to OD at wot so I am guessing the guys with that problem have custom tunes and had that changed.(not sure why)

If your tranny is built for it, you can go wot into 4th ! I personaly asked Mr. Rossler this myself when talking about my new tranny that I will be putting in shortly. Even the "Ohio Boys" did a couple times at thr strip because they ran out of gear.

How is a factory car, being able to shift into 4th at wot a problem ? You think when Car and Driver test an auto car they let of the gas and let it shift into 4th at 3/4 throttle or something, sorry, not a chance.

dlross
07-30-2010, 12:08 AM
+1 for "3" not "d"

WAHUSKER
07-30-2010, 10:04 AM
I leave mine in 3rd because I set it up to top out going thru the traps. If I had to go into 4th (OD) I would probably lift because of the power I'm making now. But I did shift into 4th @ WOT with my 400rwhp cam only motor several times with no issues.

Trav's_TransAm
07-30-2010, 05:43 PM
I do my burnout in second and race in 3rd. But I have a lazy ass tranny that takes what seems like half a second to shift. :(

RamAir95TA
07-30-2010, 06:33 PM
Manually shifting auto = M6 envy.

jgarza54
07-30-2010, 06:53 PM
I manually shift mine...

conde'strans
08-04-2010, 02:47 AM
I'm curious about trying this! But I don't get it, what's the purpose of having a "built" tranny that's supposed to shift at maximum performance if racing it in 3rd gear is better? I just want more info or experiences on this since I'm prepping my h/c/nitrous setup for drag racing. This thread was a good read for me.

Villain281H
08-04-2010, 11:15 AM
I used to leave mine in 3rd but every now and then it would whack the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift when going down the track. A member here told me about trying it in OD, and the problem hasn't happened in 7 years since then. Granted my car is only slightly modified, but just sharing my results.

BTW, my car did shift into overdrive at WOT on a high speed "check out" run when I first got it (bone stock with about 12,000 miles on it).

Derek

qwk93ta
08-04-2010, 11:20 AM
I race mine in D not 3.....

built408
08-04-2010, 12:12 PM
I used to leave mine in 3rd but every now and then it would whack the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift when going down the track. A member here told me about trying it in OD, and the problem hasn't happened in 7 years since then. Granted my car is only slightly modified, but just sharing my results.

BTW, my car did shift into overdrive at WOT on a high speed "check out" run when I first got it (bone stock with about 12,000 miles on it).

Derek

When you leave it in "D" the overruns will apply on the 2-3 shift. So you have another clutch coming on along with the 3-4's. This will take apply oil away from the 3-4 clutch pack, and send it to the overruns. Which is not the best thing. If you leave it in "OD" the overrun clutches don't apply, so no apply oil is going elsewhere, giving you the best WOT 2-3 shift.

Trav's_TransAm
08-04-2010, 01:29 PM
When you leave it in "D" the overruns will apply on the 2-3 shift. So you have another clutch coming on along with the 3-4's. This will take apply oil away from the 3-4 clutch pack, and send it to the overruns. Which is not the best thing. If you leave it in "OD" the overrun clutches don't apply, so no apply oil is going elsewhere, giving you the best WOT 2-3 shift.

WOW!!! Thank you!!! That could probably explain why I would bounce off the rev limiter on my 2-3 shift everytime going down the track in 3rd. I will have to try it in OD and see if there is a difference. :chug:

Squirts11
08-04-2010, 09:56 PM
I used to leave mine in 3rd but every now and then it would whack the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift when going down the track. A member here told me about trying it in OD, and the problem hasn't happened in 7 years since then.

^^Exactly what happens for me as well.

When you leave it in "D" the overruns will apply on the 2-3 shift. So you have another clutch coming on along with the 3-4's. This will take apply oil away from the 3-4 clutch pack, and send it to the overruns. Which is not the best thing. If you leave it in "OD" the overrun clutches don't apply, so no apply oil is going elsewhere, giving you the best WOT 2-3 shift.

^Very interesting information. Nice addition!

z28241
08-05-2010, 12:14 AM
When you leave it in "D" the overruns will apply on the 2-3 shift. So you have another clutch coming on along with the 3-4's. This will take apply oil away from the 3-4 clutch pack, and send it to the overruns. Which is not the best thing. If you leave it in "OD" the overrun clutches don't apply, so no apply oil is going elsewhere, giving you the best WOT 2-3 shift.

Does this also apply to a 4L60E rebuilt done with a with a TCI Master Racing rebuild kit and TransGo HD2? ..I always have left in 3 and not OD @ the track..The car shifts great with no complaints!

droksformula
08-05-2010, 12:19 AM
Yes, when racing in the qtr mile its best to gear your car so you run the end of the track in your 1:1 gear, I only mentioned being able to to shift into 4th at WOT because a couple members thought you couldn't, the reason you would want to. . . . . . . . . Highway runs and standing mile events.

Villain281H
08-05-2010, 05:48 AM
When you leave it in "D" the overruns will apply on the 2-3 shift. So you have another clutch coming on along with the 3-4's. This will take apply oil away from the 3-4 clutch pack, and send it to the overruns. Which is not the best thing. If you leave it in "OD" the overrun clutches don't apply, so no apply oil is going elsewhere, giving you the best WOT 2-3 shift.

Good to know, thanks for posting the info!

Derek

02sleeperz28
08-05-2010, 05:52 AM
+1 for "3" not "d"
+2...

Camaro396
08-05-2010, 05:10 PM
Back when my 4l60e car was stock, it ran it's fastest pass of 13.28 leaving it in regular Drive/OD. I tried manually shifting it a few times and could never go faster than 13.36

Leave it in Drive and let it do its thing.

dannyz06
08-05-2010, 05:42 PM
4l60e is computer controlled weather you shift manually or leave it in drive. when you roll race you should manually down shift it so the clutches are fully engaged and not trying to engage under power. When i race from a dig, track or street, i put it in first so if i spin and ease off the throttle it doesn't shift into the next gear early, as it would if you were in drive. if you shift early it will give the computer time to react and wont hit the rev limiter.

608kZ28
08-05-2010, 06:19 PM
i left mine in 3rd once, then D. no difference in times

Mike 02T/A
11-22-2010, 07:31 PM
I leave mine in 3. Heard about the extra "something" engaged when you leave it like that. I forget all the details. Probably the same thing that was typed a few posts above.