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Old 08-04-2010, 07:25 AM
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I am in the middle of doing heads and cam in my car and last night we took the crank off and the cam out and the front two bearings got scratched a little bit. Should I change em out or will they be fine?
Old 08-04-2010, 08:47 AM
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Take a pic.

From what I have seen with my motor and others is that the front cam bearings wear exessivly to begin with.

Are you sure you induced the scratch??

You could replace the 1st one in the car but the 2nd, I do not think so but I could be wrong. I always did cam bears from bottom up and the engine/rotating assembly had been out of the block and out of car.
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Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine
Take a pic.

From what I have seen with my motor and others is that the front cam bearings wear exessivly to begin with.

Are you sure you induced the scratch??

You could replace the 1st one in the car but the 2nd, I do not think so but I could be wrong. I always did cam bears from bottom up and the engine/rotating assembly had been out of the block and out of car.
Ill be able to take a pic and post it up when I get home from work. I should have it posted by 5 this after noon, eastern time.

I dont think I scratched it and there wasnt any damage on the cam that I could see but then again this is my first cam swap so I could have scratched it taking it out. It isnt really a scratch either it more of a scuff. Hopefully ill be able to get a good picture of it
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Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine
Are you sure you induced the scratch??
The car is a 98 and it has 100k on it. Can you describe what your talking about when you say excessive wear, and if that was the case would it be fine to leave in if it was just natural wear?
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I've seen some really nasty cam bearings that run just fine. If the scratch is big enough you may lose a little oil pressure. If it's just a scuff, I think you'll be ok. When you run your nail across it, does it get caught?
As weird as it sounds, I've taken some emery paper and knocked the sharp edge off a nicked bearing. To this day, the car's still running great (25k later)

Post up pics just to make sure.
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Thats a pic its worse then I thought but what do you guys think. Theres no marks on the cam but the bearing is kinda messed up
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Seeing it, I wouldn't be extremely comfortable running it, however if you knock down the high areas it would probably run fine. I have seen worse. With that said, I'd want to replace it if I could.
If you've tried reinstalling the cam, does it glide in easily? If any force is required it definitely needs to be replaced.

Is the second bearing better or worse than this one?
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The second one doesnt have a scratch on it so whats that mean?

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its okay
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^^^^^ Its ok meaning do the swap or the second bearing is ok??


I put the old cam in and its not hanging on anything it spins fine
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Let it be, If you didn't know better pulling the cam out not to scatch it
how do you figure you are gonna change that bearing? Its fine like it is ....move on with it.
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Originally Posted by HotSilverBird
Let it be, If you didn't know better pulling the cam out not to scatch it
how do you figure you are gonna change that bearing? Its fine like it is ....move on with it.
I gotta guy whod change the bearing
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As long as it doesn't look like this, you'll be fine.
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realistically u will be fine, but there is something to be said for piece of mind.

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Originally Posted by gearhead1186
realistically u will be fine, but there is something to be said for piece of mind.
That's exactly how I feel. I think it would run without issue, I'm just a little cautious when it comes to bearings. At times it may be a little too cautious.

Disregard the 2nd bearing statement, for some reason when I was originally reading your post I mixed up the 1st reply as well. I thought you had said it was the first 2 that were scratched.
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Originally Posted by Rhino
That's exactly how I feel. I think it would run without issue, I'm just a little cautious when it comes to bearings. At times it may be a little too cautious.

Disregard the 2nd bearing statement, for some reason when I was originally reading your post I mixed up the 1st reply as well. I thought you had said it was the first 2 that were scratched.
I thought they were both scratched but looking in the motor again the second one was fine
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Well just a word of advice, make sure the oil holes are lined up if you decide to replace.
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I just posted this in another Cam Bearing thread but I think the guy already got it taken care of. Maybe this will help you out if you decide to replace it:

That same bearing I messed up pulling the old cam out so it had to go (I got it good too, yours looks awesome compared to mine). Did not pull the motor, Did not drop the tranny, Didn't even have to buy that $200 wonder tool that seems to be no-******-where in all of Phoenix, Lol.

I went to Harbor Freight and bought their bearing driver kit ($25). The size you need is 59mm. Take the Top Valley Cover off (have to disconnect the 2 knock sensors first). Once you do this there is an opening in the block directly above that bearing. You can get a finger down behind on the other side of the bearing. You'll want a friend for this part. Have someone drive the bearing slowly into the block (I Know, ****** scary) and just hold onto it until its free. Rotate it 90 degrees and just pull it up through the opening in the block. That bearing is soft enough that it will pull through without tearing the block up.

Then I drank a beer. Easy.
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My friend's looked worse than that and has run fine for a long time.....
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The motor is out decided to just change the bearings while I got it already torn down. Gonna do the clutch to while its out


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