Gen 5 Camaro External Bolt-On Tech - All I can say is were done for!!!!!
2002ssman
08-13-2010, 09:42 PM
Have you guys read the specs on the new boss 302 mustang!!! 440hp out of 5.0l I'm seriously thinking about selling my old tech ls3 and getting one of these monsters... Our cars are over weight and under powered to compete with this thing....come on general get your shiit together!!!!:corn::corn::lurk::lurk:
Bob@BruteSpeed
08-14-2010, 06:26 AM
http://shop.brutespeed.com/2010-11-Camaro-SS_c7.htm
It sounds like you need one of these. Bob
steelers33
08-14-2010, 04:29 PM
Gotta love band wagon jumpers.
blk/slvr02ss
08-14-2010, 05:19 PM
Only until the Z-28 comes out.
Badguy7
08-14-2010, 07:56 PM
You'll be saying the same shit when the Z28 comes out, get over it and mod your damn car if your so worried.
69LT1Bird
08-14-2010, 08:02 PM
It's only 14 FWHP difference if Ford isn't lying. But, stock for stock the LS3 Camaro will lose because of the weight issue.
spdygon
08-14-2010, 08:05 PM
the boss 302 will cost above 40k and come with racing headers, exhaust,gears,etc. the only thing owner can do to add power is add a power adder by then the car will be above 50k.
my car 01ss is at 450 motor and weight in at 3650 with full tank and i in it.
bring it on......
projectX
08-14-2010, 08:09 PM
Screw it yeah the ford stock will be a force but I'd rather destroy them with my TA and pocket 40k +
chaman
08-14-2010, 08:16 PM
I will stand back and watch all the GM fanboys looking for excuses to justify just how LAME GM is....game over girls, Ford won. There is nothing in the new Camaro platform that could come close. Dont expect the Camaro to last long into production either
ULTIMATEORANGESS
08-14-2010, 08:51 PM
if it does cost 40k or more then im not impressed.
but i do like this new 5.0 motor.
Johnnypappis
08-14-2010, 09:22 PM
Wow listen to some of you guys....Ford won GM won.....This is a never ending war no one ever really "wins" from this except the consumer god some you guys look too deeply into this....If you like the camaro its a great car if you like the mustang ALSO a great car :) we all win from them trying to battle for our money!
fknsmshn
08-14-2010, 09:33 PM
Ill work with my lowely 4th gen and some junk yard parts. Im not worried.
JHL88
08-15-2010, 08:06 AM
I will stand back and watch all the GM fanboys looking for excuses to justify just how LAME GM is....game over girls, Ford won. There is nothing in the new Camaro platform that could come close. Dont expect the Camaro to last long into production either
... considering GM is MAKING profit now and not in debt. im sure it will stick around longer than ya think
chaman
08-15-2010, 09:54 AM
... considering GM is MAKING profit now and not in debt. im sure it will stick around longer than ya think
You think a few months making profit is enough to counteract 25 years of poor marketing, poorer administration and, yes, mostly crappy products? Think about the cars GM made in the 80s and early 90s....utter crap! Maybe Ford products were not much good either BUT, they knew how to market them and made better use of their profit. Guess why they did not used any government help....:)
Also watch all that profit go away when the new Mustangs start to out sell the Camaros AGAIN, this time with performance to back them up, so yes, its bye bye GM, soon. I hope Im wrong though.
Dark SS
08-15-2010, 08:12 PM
You think a few months making profit is enough to counteract 25 years of poor marketing, poorer administration and, yes, mostly crappy products? Think about the cars GM made in the 80s and early 90s....utter crap! Maybe Ford products were not much good either BUT, they knew how to market them and made better use of their profit. Guess why they did not used any government help....:)
Also watch all that profit go away when the new Mustangs start to out sell the Camaros AGAIN, this time with performance to back them up, so yes, its bye bye GM, soon. I hope Im wrong though.
What the hell does cars from 80's and 90's have to do with selling cars today?? Open up your eyes and look at the marketing and new products. Seems to be working and it looks like GM learned from it's mistakes. A niche car that sells 100,000 units/ year isn't going anywhere.
To the OP: Like I posted in the other thread, we don't know what's in store for the 2012 Camaro. A GMPP intake, tune and 3.73 gear could put the SS over the Boss. If you seriously bought your 2010 thinking it would be faster than all other cars forever then you really should sell it. You must not know much about bolt-on's plus your "old tech LS3".
Boost-box
08-15-2010, 10:16 PM
1 cam >4 cams. just sayin.
ESPECIALLY when it comes time to work on it.
Lethal Z
08-15-2010, 11:13 PM
Looks like Dodge is trying to get back into the game as well.
http://www.challengerblog.com/blog/1036629_2011-dodge-challenger-srt8-rumored-to-get-6-4-liter-hemi
Miller Time
08-15-2010, 11:17 PM
Have you guys read the specs on the new boss 302 mustang!!! 440hp out of 5.0l I'm seriously thinking about selling my old tech ls3 and getting one of these monsters... Our cars are over weight and under powered to compete with this thing....come on general get your shiit together!!!!:corn::corn::lurk::lurk:
Well go and buy one then!!!!!!!! Seriously, go buy one. . . . . Old tech LS3? Depends on how u look at it. Can u take that Ford 302 and turn it into a 414 inch, 675 n/a HP fire breathing MONSTA without a whole lotta money. . . . I don't think so cup cake
odarabla
08-15-2010, 11:28 PM
Well go and buy one then!!!!!!!! Seriously, go buy one. . . . . Old tech LS3? Depends on how u look at it. Can u take that Ford 302 and turn it into a 414 inch, 675 n/a HP fire breathing MONSTA without a whole lotta money. . . . I don't think so cup cake
^^^^^^ Agreed.. It's amazing just how f-ing dumn some people can be!! With the right amount of money I can make a fucking yugo fast!! Please do us all a favor and sell your Camaro for the Ford. Then what will be your excuse for getting ass rapped?
Miller Time
08-16-2010, 02:06 AM
You think a few months making profit is enough to counteract 25 years of poor marketing, poorer administration and, yes, mostly crappy products? Think about the cars GM made in the 80s and early 90s....utter crap! Maybe Ford products were not much good either BUT, they knew how to market them and made better use of their profit. Guess why they did not used any government help....:)
Also watch all that profit go away when the new Mustangs start to out sell the Camaros AGAIN, this time with performance to back them up, so yes, its bye bye GM, soon. I hope Im wrong though.
Oh look here, a marketing strategist. Maybe GM should hire you. Sounds like someone didn't get a stinky finger last night.:cry: Go buy a used Yugo dude. Look what you just said, 25 years of poor marketing. LOL In that case they should of been out of buisness 20 years ago.
MasterTomos
08-16-2010, 02:58 AM
I'd rather have a 426hp LS3 that's choked to shit by manifolds,intake,ect and have a lot of room to grow than a factory full bolt-on rang out 440hp 5.0...
I geuss us GM guys arent used to seeing much competition? :lol: Ford finally did something right, but I'm sure GM will best it as usual, until then, grow a pair fellas
odarabla
08-16-2010, 03:21 AM
You think a few months making profit is enough to counteract 25 years of poor marketing, poorer administration and, yes, mostly crappy products? Think about the cars GM made in the 80s and early 90s....utter crap! Maybe Ford products were not much good either BUT, they knew how to market them and made better use of their profit. Guess why they did not used any government help....:)
Also watch all that profit go away when the new Mustangs start to out sell the Camaros AGAIN, this time with performance to back them up, so yes, its bye bye GM, soon. I hope Im wrong though.
Does Puerto Rico make cars to? I guess I didn't realize you where a big buisness bomb shell.. Have any other ideas? You should consider running for President! Maybe you could get this whole country out of debt!! :gay:
fknsmshn
08-16-2010, 10:05 AM
Well go and buy one then!!!!!!!! Seriously, go buy one. . . . . Old tech LS3? Depends on how u look at it. Can u take that Ford 302 and turn it into a 414 inch, 675 n/a HP fire breathing MONSTA without a whole lotta money. . . . I don't think so cup cake
Your gunna make 675hp without spending a lot of money? Id like to see it.
^^^^^^ Agreed.. It's amazing just how f-ing dumn some people can be!!
It sure is.
odarabla
08-16-2010, 10:28 AM
Your gunna make 675hp without spending a lot of money? Id like to see it.
It sure is.
Actually you can make 675rwhp without spending alot of money with the new LS3 Camaro.
Miller Time
08-16-2010, 11:48 AM
[QUOTE=fknsmshn;13739979]Your gunna make 675hp without spending a lot of money? Id like to see it.
U got me LOL. It would take some cash, just making a point about the potential and that it does have ! ! !
fknsmshn
08-16-2010, 11:56 AM
Actually you can make 675rwhp without spending alot of money with the new LS3 Camaro.
N/A like he said? Again, Id like to see it.
U got me LOL. It would take some cash, just making a point about the potential and that it does have ! ! !
Lol, no arguement there. Id rather have the cubic inch advantage of the LS3 than a pocket full of cash to build a max effort 5.0.
RedRocketZ28
08-16-2010, 12:04 PM
Some of you guys in this thread do realize that there is more to selling a car than just HP numbers right? Who cares if a car is a little quicker and has a few more HP stock. That is the reason we mod our cars right? Anyway, I am not worried. Like mentioned earlier, bring it on!
1BDHWK
08-16-2010, 12:24 PM
Actually you can make 675rwhp without spending alot of money with the new LS3 Camaro.
:huh:Cheap build 675rwhp N/A LS3? Point me in the right direction. Please!:secret2:
The 302 Boss will be a cool ride. Let the HP Wars begin! Again.:cheers:
99CamVanillaTop
08-16-2010, 02:16 PM
Is this your first car? Is this your first time posting on the internet?
chaman
08-16-2010, 03:16 PM
Does Puerto Rico make cars to? I guess I didn't realize you where a big buisness bomb shell.. Have any other ideas? You should consider running for President! Maybe you could get this whole country out of debt!! :gay:
Trying to get personal with me son? What does mentioning Puerto Rico has to do with this discussion? Have some stereotypes in mind you would care to discuss? Good move with the little smilies, they come in handy when idiots without arguments try to sound smart.
Get your teenager level of thinking and frustration directly to GM, maybe they have some consideration towards "special" people. Gotta love fanboys! Guess they will need some antidepressive meds when the reality kicks them straight in the face.
MasterTomos
08-16-2010, 03:19 PM
Id rather have the cubic inch advantage of the LS3 than a pocket full of cash to build a max effort 5.0.
my thoughts exactly
ghostbird
08-16-2010, 03:27 PM
ford might have the upper hand now just wait til the gen 6 comes out we will crush em like they were a 4.6 agian:drive:5
odarabla
08-16-2010, 04:16 PM
Trying to get personal with me son? What does mentioning Puerto Rico has to do with this discussion? Have some stereotypes in mind you would care to discuss? Good move with the little smilies, they come in handy when idiots without arguments try to sound smart.
Get your teenager level of thinking and frustration directly to GM, maybe they have some consideration towards "special" people. Gotta love fanboys! Guess they will need some antidepressive meds when the reality kicks them straight in the face.
Fan boys? I own a Ford to!! You act like you have all of the solutions to the problems but the fact remains that you have little to no education at all!! Please go bother someone else with this petty, girly bullshit!!
Oh and I am not your son!! I am probably older than you are there kiddy!!
chaman
08-16-2010, 05:27 PM
Fan boys? I own a Ford to!! You act like you have all of the solutions to the problems but the fact remains that you have little to no education at all!! Please go bother someone else with this petty, girly bullshit!!
Oh and I am not your son!! I am probably older than you are there kiddy!!
Little education? LOL! You don't want to go there, trust me.:) If you don't want to be treated like a little kid perhaps trying to articulate a decent, coherent post would help. Maybe its too much to ask but who knows! if you dont want to be bothered then why even try to get back? You dont have the neurons to do it, so maybe would be better to consult you shrink to see if a little bit of drug optimization is in order, because, son, you indeed have some issues.:)
Now how about trying to explain your point and contribute to the thread, think you can? No, your not my son, figure all that by yourself? Noice...
odarabla
08-16-2010, 08:46 PM
N/A like he said? Again, Id like to see it.
Lol, no arguement there. Id rather have the cubic inch advantage of the LS3 than a pocket full of cash to build a max effort 5.0.
I wasn't thinking N/A but if you go FI then 675rwhp is an easy mark to hit..
fknsmshn
08-16-2010, 08:54 PM
I wasn't thinking N/A but if you go FI then 675rwhp is an easy mark to hit..
No doubt. But N/A is what was brought up. Long dead arguement now though.
odarabla
08-16-2010, 08:55 PM
Little education? LOL! You don't want to go there, trust me.:) If you don't want to be treated like a little kid perhaps trying to articulate a decent, coherent post would help. Maybe its too much to ask but who knows! if you dont want to be bothered then why even try to get back? You dont have the neurons to do it, so maybe would be better to consult you shrink to see if a little bit of drug optimization is in order, because, son, you indeed have some issues.:)
Now how about trying to explain your point and contribute to the thread, think you can? No, your not my son, figure all that by yourself? Noice...
See, you can always tell when someone is trying to act smart from those who are actually smart!! You stated your oppinion regarding GM and the Camaro and I qoute
(You think a few months making profit is enough to counteract 25 years of poor marketing, poorer administration and, yes, mostly crappy products? Think about the cars GM made in the 80s and early 90s....utter crap! Maybe Ford products were not much good either BUT, they knew how to market them and made better use of their profit. Guess why they did not used any government help....
Also watch all that profit go away when the new Mustangs start to out sell the Camaros AGAIN, this time with performance to back them up, so yes, its bye bye GM, soon. I hope Im wrong though).
The truth is you know nothing about what GM's plans are or the cars they are building. You are just another wana be know it all trying to act like you actually know something when the fact remains you don't know shit!
odarabla
08-16-2010, 09:04 PM
No doubt. But N/A is what was brought up. Long dead arguement now though.
Yea, I hear ya.. Sorry about that. What gets me is that there are people on this site stating the 5.0 is faster than the Camaro but in fact it is not. I think they are 2 evenly matched cars that will give you what you want in a sports car. They both have there down falls ex. The Camaro is heavy and has IRS but has that big 6.2L to make up for it while the Ford is a little lighter, has a solid rear axel but has a smaller engine. My buddies 2010 A6 SS Camaro with boltons went low 12's at 116mph and this is with the stock stall converter. Put in a stall converter and that car is in the 11's with just boltons samething with the new Mustang.
fknsmshn
08-16-2010, 09:44 PM
I just want a sports car that doesnt come with navigation, 10.2 channel surround sound, a 97 way adjustable seat, in dash 20" high def flat screen, a refrigerator in the center console and goose down filled seats.
They need to come back with stripper cars, and not charge even more after they strip the car down.
99CamVanillaTop
08-17-2010, 10:55 AM
Stop feeding the troll with two post.
TrippyJoey
08-17-2010, 11:14 AM
I just want a sports car that doesnt come with navigation, 10.2 channel surround sound, a 97 way adjustable seat, in dash 20" high def flat screen, a refrigerator in the center console and goose down filled seats.
They need to come back with stripper cars, and not charge even more after they strip the car down.
I think it would be cool if they brought back the old Chevelle back. You know basically a real muscle car. Powerful v8 (maybe use the Z06's LS7), non-electric simple cloth seats, no gps or expensive sound system, manual windows, big disk brakes all around, 6 speed manual transmission, and plain simple interior. But with upgrade options for those that want a little more luxury.
Miller Time
08-17-2010, 04:14 PM
I think it would be cool if they brought back the old Chevelle back. You know basically a real muscle car. Powerful v8 (maybe use the Z06's LS7), non-electric simple cloth seats, no gps or expensive sound system, manual windows, big disk brakes all around, 6 speed manual transmission, and plain simple interior. But with upgrade options for those that want a little more luxury.
I'm with you on that one but sad it will never happen. I also own a 70 Nova and I would get rid of my wife before that car. LOL Something about the old muscle cars, they will never be replaced. If you have one hold on to it tight!
TrippyJoey
08-17-2010, 04:39 PM
I'm with you on that one but sad it will never happen. I also own a 70 Nova and I would get rid of my wife before that car. LOL Something about the old muscle cars, they will never be replaced. If you have one hold on to it tight!
I love the simple design and power of old school muscle cars. The first car I was going to buy was a 67 Chevrolet El Camino with a 454BBC/TH350. No power seats, AM/FM radio, manual windows and bench seat. Too bad it wasn't running, needed new radiator, the whole bed floor needed replacement, and the $7,000 price tag seemed quite steep.
Sharpe
08-17-2010, 07:31 PM
All I can say is there are multiple Boss threads other, correct, sections. Gen 5 Camaro External Bolt-On Tech is not the right section even if this weren't a troll post (which it is). Closed.