Negative Trader Feedback - Mario89 Deal gone Sour

Let me first just say that Mario89 was a pleasure to deal with right up until I had issues with one of two parts that he sold me. That's when his attitude changed.

I posted a wanted add in the forum HERE (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/parts-wanted/1307609-05-06-gto-alternator.html) for a 2005-2006 Pontiac GTO alternator. I received a few responses, but I also got a few PM's from people. One of those people was from Mario89, Here is the PM Chain.

are you still looking for one?


I found an F-body alternator, and it won't work for my application, so now I'm on the hunt for an 05-06 GTO alternator on the cheap.

Steve
i got one from a 06. 70 Plus ship


That sounds good to me! Any damage to it? how many miles? Got a pic? you can PM, E-mail or Txt it to me

My Zip is 85387

Let me know what the total will be shipped and your paypal, and I can make payment as soon as I get the info.

Steve

(623) xxx-xxxx
norcalvp@yahoo.com


Mario89 called me that evening (August 3rd) and I agreed to his $70 asking price. I asked him how much shipping would be and he stated $20 to ship it. He asked if I needed any other GTO parts since he had a bunch. I asked him if he had a white shifter boot, and he said that he did, and he wanted $20 for the boot. So I asked the total price to make sure we were both on the same page. He said that he didn't do paypal, so he'd prefer a money order for $110. I agreed and mailed out a money order..

on August 12th He responded that he received my money order via Text Message and shipped off the parts to me, but shipping cost him $30. I offered to give him some extra money to help cover the cost of shipping it. (I've shipped lots of parts all over the country, and that box should have cost $13-$18 to ship) He said not to worry about it.

Yesterday I received my package, and found the alternator to be in good order, but the shifter boot that I received has 3 holes in it where the shifter pinched the boot between it and the body.

http://norcalttora.com/~steve/photos/Chevelle/Drivetrain/Small%20Chevelle%20pics/IMG00083-20100819-0759%20(Small).jpg

http://norcalttora.com/~steve/photos/Chevelle/Drivetrain/Small%20Chevelle%20pics/IMG00084-20100819-0759%20(Small).jpg

I send him a text message this morning stating that I received the alternator in good condition, but the shifter boot was damaged. I asked if he wanted me to ship it back to him and he said no that he didn't need it. I asked him about a refund, and that's where his attitude and demeanor changed. Below are the text messages that we swapped this morning.


I charged you 15 for it and the shipping was twice as much as it was supposed to be. So if anything I deserve like another $5 back

Even if you got the two little holes which have to be tiny cause I didn't even notice them its still usable. you got it for free


I thought I paid $70 for the alternator, $20 for the boot, and $20 for shipping?

No it was like 90 for the alt and 20 for shipping and the boot. Shipping was 30

Here is a quote from the PM you sent me on LS1Tech "i got one from a 06. 70 Plus ship"...

Ok so plus 30 for shipping is 100* you sent 110. They charged me 3 dollars for cashing your money order so that leaves 7*. That boot is still in nice shape so you got it for seven dollars

You asked me if you should give me more money for shipping since it was more and I said no. Now your gonna go back and forth for a part that's in nice shape for 7 dollars. I mean really????

The damn bullbes around the alt cost me more then that

You are right, I offered to pay the difference in shipping because I was trying to do the "Right Thing". I've shipped parts all over the world and this box should have only cost $12-18 to ship. Not sure why it was twice that. I also asked what shipping would be before the transaction was done so neither got burned

Exactly and I was nice enought to say that's ok. Now you want 7* back for a part that you can use. from the pick it looks like two little holes. Not a big deal

The point of the shifter boot is to keep hot air, and exhaust fumes, and noise out of the passenger cabin, how can that be done with holes in it?

If you bought a part from someone let's say a tire... It came with a nail in the sidewall. would you want your money back?

It didn't have holes, maybe pinch marks that about it

No not if I paid 7* for it an dknowing that it will be fine with a patch

So I went from paying 70 for the alternator + 20 for shipping to paying 112 (I added the $2 that I paid for the MO) for the same part with some other junk that I can't use?

It's not a pinch mark if I can stick my finger through it...

I'd be embarrassed to ask for 7*

I already have a boot just like this one. The same thing happened in the car I bought. Why would I pay money for a damaged part that I can't use

no I got 107.. and that boot has nothing wrong with it

I'm not asking for $7, I'm asking for $20

You can stick your finger through anything if you stretch it more

I spent $112 buing the month (stupid blackberry substituted "month" for "MO" (money order))

20? Ur Crazy

it won't happen. Im not selling you the alt for like 45 forget it

If anything you should send me 8 dollars

I don't understand where you are getting $45 from. I paid you your asking price for "Good" parts... I got one good one, and one damaged one

I got 107. minus 30 for shipping. That's 77. I spent over ten on bubble wraps. So that's like 65* and Now you want 20 back. your nuts. Will never happen

So how about you send me 5 dollars and the pulley back and we call it even


At this point I stopped responding because It was clear that I wasn't getting through to him. I doubt that I'll ever get my $20 back for the shifter boot. Hopefully this post will help someone else from getting burned too.


Cliff notes:
I bought an alternator and shifter boot from him. Got alternator is good condition, Shifter boot has holes. Seller says that it's not damaged, and wants me to send him more money and parts off of the alternator after the purchase.



BEWARE of MARIO 89! If you do buy something from him be sure to get some good pictures first!!!

Steve

Let me first just say that Mario89 was a pleasure to deal with right up until I had issues with one of two parts that he sold me. That's when his attitude changed.

I posted a wanted add in the forum HERE (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/parts-wanted/1307609-05-06-gto-alternator.html) for a 2005-2006 Pontiac GTO alternator. I received a few responses, but I also got a few PM's from people. One of those people was from Mario89, Here is the PM Chain.




Mario89 called me that evening (August 3rd) and I agreed to his $70 asking price. I asked him how much shipping would be and he stated $20 to ship it. He asked if I needed any other GTO parts since he had a bunch. I asked him if he had a white shifter boot, and he said that he did, and he wanted $20 for the boot. So I asked the total price to make sure we were both on the same page. He said that he didn't do paypal, so he'd prefer a money order for $110. I agreed and mailed out a money order..

on August 12th He responded that he received my money order via Text Message and shipped off the parts to me, but shipping cost him $30. I offered to give him some extra money to help cover the cost of shipping it. (I've shipped lots of parts all over the country, and that box should have cost $13-$18 to ship) He said not to worry about it.

Yesterday I received my package, and found the alternator to be in good order, but the shifter boot that I received has 3 holes in it where the shifter pinched the boot between it and the body.

http://norcalttora.com/~steve/photos/Chevelle/Drivetrain/Small%20Chevelle%20pics/IMG00083-20100819-0759%20(Small).jpg

http://norcalttora.com/~steve/photos/Chevelle/Drivetrain/Small%20Chevelle%20pics/IMG00084-20100819-0759%20(Small).jpg

I send him a text message this morning stating that I received the alternator in good condition, but the shifter boot was damaged. I asked if he wanted me to ship it back to him and he said no that he didn't need it. I asked him about a refund, and that's where his attitude and demeanor changed. Below are the text messages that we swapped this morning.




























































At this point I stopped responding because It was clear that I wasn't getting through to him. I doubt that I'll ever get my $20 back for the shifter boot. Hopefully this post will help someone else from getting burned too.


Cliff notes:
I bought an alternator and shifter boot from him. Got alternator is good condition, Shifter boot has holes. Seller says that it's not damaged, and wants me to send him more money and parts off of the alternator after the purchase.



BEWARE of MARIO 89! If you do buy something from him be sure to get some good pictures first!!!

Steve


dude you are a fucking joke... i gave you that part basically for free as i was being a nice guy.. and you gonna come on here and talk shit... let everyone see what a joke you are., when i sent it to you i didnt see any holes or cuts and i even sent you pictures ..the one you took pictures of is probably the old one you had or something.. .

dude you are a fucking joke... i gave you that part basically for free as i was being a nice guy.. and you gonna come on here and talk shit... let everyone see what a joke you are., when i sent it to you i didnt see any holes or cuts and i even sent you pictures ..the one you took pictures of is probably the old one you had or something.. .



I disagree…. You didn't give it for me... You charged me $20 for it. And you sent me a boot with holes in it. I came here to let others know to be careful when dealing with you.... What exactly do I have to gain from posting this thread? I'm pretty sure you won't own up to sending me a bad part, so I doubt I'll see my $20 again. Why would I take pictures of the one that I already have… you can see the box that you sent me in the background with the alternator still in it.

Maybe you sent me a bad part… Ever think of that possibility? Lets face it I really enjoyed this transaction until last night when I open the box. I pulled the alternator out of the box and inspected it to make sure it didn’t have any broken fins. I was tickled pink! Then I pulled the boot out and looked it over and found the holes. I sent you a text message this morning trying to work with you, but in the end you just turned out to be a jackass.

Face it. You sent me a bad part, I called you on it, and you got defensive and pissy. No matter how you slice it, you sent me a shifter boot with 3 holes in it, not tiny pin holes. Holes big enough that I could stick my fingers through. I already have a boot in this condition. That's why I wanted one that is in good shape. Just another thing to toss into my trash bin.

BTW I really like the latest text message You gonna make a thread about something like this? Wow you are a fucking looser

Nice man… Really mature. Yes I am creating a thread about this. That's the whole point of this "Bad Sellers" Forum. To let others know of deals gone wrong. Yes I understand that this is only $20, but What if I had/have problems with the alternator? Can I expect the same response from you? My guess is probably....

To future buyers BEWARE!!! This is what happens if you have issues that you would bring to this sellers attention.

i disagree…. You didn't give it for me... You charged me $20 for it. And you sent me a boot with holes in it. I came here to let others know to be careful when dealing with you.... What exactly do i have to gain from posting this thread? I'm pretty sure you won't own up to sending me a bad part, so i doubt i'll see my $20 again. Why would i take pictures of the one that i already have… you can see the box that you sent me in the background with the alternator still in it.

Maybe you sent me a bad part… ever think of that possibility? Lets face it i really enjoyed this transaction until last night when i open the box. I pulled the alternator out of the box and inspected it to make sure it didn’t have any broken fins. I was tickled pink! Then i pulled the boot out and looked it over and found the holes. I sent you a text message this morning trying to work with you, but in the end you just turned out to be a jackass.

Face it. You sent me a bad part, i called you on it, and you got defensive and pissy. No matter how you slice it, you sent me a shifter boot with 3 holes in it, not tiny pin holes. Holes big enough that i could stick my fingers through. I already have a boot in this condition. That's why i wanted one that is in good shape. Just another thing to toss into my trash bin.

Btw i really like the latest text message

nice man… really mature. Yes i am creating a thread abou this. That's the whole point of this "bad sellers" forum. To let others know of deals gone wrong. Yes i understand that this is only $20, but what if i had/have problems with the alternator? Can i expect the same response from you? My guess is probably....

To future buyers beware!!! This is what happens if you have issues that you would bring to this sellers attention.


you know damn well i sent you that part as a freebie.. And you keep saying i didnt... Where did you get 20 from? Without that part and me selling you the alt for 70 that total was more then you sent me.. So how did you pay for that part? You want 20 back so you can say you paid 50 for the alt and i told you that wont happen.. And the holes werent there when i sent you the picture.. So dont come on here making it sound like i did you wrong,, i sent you a free part as a favor and you turned on me... Have a good one..

you know damn well i sent you that part as a freebie.. And you keep saying i didnt... Where did you get 20 from? Without that part and me selling you the alt for 70 that total was more then you sent me.. So how did you pay for that part? You want 20 back so you can say you paid 50 for the alt and i told you that wont happen.. And the holes werent there when i sent you the picture.. So dont come on here making it sound like i did you wrong,, i sent you a free part as a favor and you turned on me... Have a good one..

That's just it... you didn't give it to me for free. I paid you $20 for it.

I'll break it down for you incase simple math is an issue for you.

$70 alternator (Per your PM I posted above)
$20 shipping for said alternator (Which should have more than covered the cost to ship it)

Add those two numbers together and what do you get?? $70+$20= $90. So you're saying that I just tossed in an extra $20 for good measure? Maybe I'm just that nice of a guy? Sure sometimes, but not this time.

I sent you $110, According to my simple math above I should have only sent you $90 for the alternator shipped to me. So where did the extra $20 come from? Oh yeah that's right... The shifter boot that you told me you wanted $20 for... if you were giving me the boot for free (Which you didn't) There's no way I would have ever even contacted you regarding the damage.

$90 shipped for alternator alone
$110 shipped for the alternator and shifter boot...

See the difference? No not yet?

Ok, let me ask you this, so If I paid $70 for the alternator, what you're telling me is that I then paid $40 to have it shipped to me? If you would have told me that I was paying $40 for shipping I would have told you that I wasn't interested anymore. And this deal would have never happened, and I feel that both of us would be happier at this point.

I don't want to pay $50 for the alternator, I want to pay $70 for the alternator, $20 for shipping (just a refresher that equals $90) and I'd love a refund of $20 for the shifter boot that I received that was damaged ($110-$90=$20).

I paid you your asking price for the alternator and shifter boot (Once again incase you have forgotton $70+$20, + the shipping that you quoted me ($20). I also used the payment method that you requested. I can't understand how you think that I'm trying to screw you...:bang:

Also These holes are in the shifter boot that you sent to me. I did not make holes in it to make you look bad, It's not the one I already had that had similar holes in it. This is the very same one you sent to me. The holes were there, you just didn't look at it before you tossed it in the box. Just because you didn't inspect the part before you sold it, Don't come and flame me for finding the flaws after you shipped it to me.

Understand yet? If not I can always write it down in Crayon if that'll make it easier to understand...

:ripped:

oh and just another question. Why is it that every time you open your mouth, the story changes just a little? First It was $20, Then In the text string you said you charged me $15, Then now it's free? Why does it keep changing?

oh and just another question. Why is it that every time you open your mouth, the story changes just a little? First It was $20, Then In the text string you said you charged me $15, Then now it's free? Why does it keep changing?

you are a retard,, i never said anything about 15.. i said i gave it to you for free.. get your story straight...

you are a retard,, i never said anything about 15.. i said i gave it to you for free.. get your story straight...

Really? So what did this text mean? IR Confused:confused:

I charged you 15 for it and the shipping was twice as much as it was supposed to be. So if anything I deserve like another $5 back

I have this text on my phone still...

Here is the text I sent you right before you sent me that little Gem...
Do you want to work out a partial refund for the damaged boot?

Maybe I can ship you a shovel, so you can just keep on digging this hole deeper. Or maybe you should just stop replying, you're only making yourself look like a jackass. My story is straight... It's yours that keeps changing. :read:

You do realize that your posts in this thread only prove my point right?

OP, you certainly seem in the right but this seems tricky too. Any proof you sent him $110 on the money order? Online statement of you paying for the money order?

How about you defendent? Any proof he only sent you $90 on a money order?

Also if his posts are inaccurate do you have any PMs showing this conversation to be different?

At this point the original poster seems to be more in the right based on the evidence he has provided.

I concur, and how are your shipping stuff, FedEx overnight?

I absoutely have proof. If there is anything I've learned in my life. Document, document, document...

Ask and you shall receive

http://norcalttora.com/~steve/photos/Chevelle/Drivetrain/Small%20Chevelle%20pics/Money%20Order%20Receipt%20(Large).jpg




I have blocked out the sellers address for privacy. The package came UPS ground...:poke:


EDIT: Here is the UPS Tracking number incase anyone wants it... Although I would be curious to see how much shipping actually was...

1Z74W6070340115758

EDIT: Here is the UPS Tracking number incase anyone wants it... Although I would be curious to see how much shipping actually was...

1Z74W6070340115758

$26.47

And if he bought bubble wrap, it's pretty believable that the cost on his end was in the $30 range :nod:

$26.47

And if he bought bubble wrap, it's pretty believable that the cost on his end was in the $30 range :nod:

Does it give a reason it was so spendy? I bought an 09 silverado alternator a few weeks ago and shipping from USPS was half that ($13.50) UPS is freaking Expensive!

shouldn't matter how much the shipping cost.. you paid $70 for the alt, $20 for the boot, and $20 for shipping. $110 Total.. It's not your fault the seller didn't properly prepare and plan for costs like boxes, bubble wrap, and to get an ACTUAL shipping quote before selling. Plus he sold you an item that won't do you any good as you have stated. Mario89 = FAIL

Ya OP is in the right.
The seller set the prices and now is sayin the prices he set arent good.
Its easy to tell when someone isnt tellin the truth when they dont focus on the problem but change the focus onto their own issues. Seller spends very little time saying he is sure that it wasnt damaged and then spends alot of time saying well you got it for "free" neway.
Luckily it was 20 bux so when ya dont get it you arent out that much and he gets the tarnished image.

The original poster is absolutely in the right. Have you submitted negative feedback to make sure no one else has the same problems?

I tried, but I wasn't able to post to the I-trader. I haven't ever done that before, and I'm wondering if it's because he never responded in my wanted add. If you can tell me how to do it, I'd be more than happy to...

You should be able to click on his trader feedback score by his name then click the submit feedback link.

Enter the details and click submit.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/itrader.php?u=36588

Go there and click to submit feedback. Make sure you are filling out the form all the way.

Ya OP is in the right.
The seller set the prices and now is sayin the prices he set arent good.
Its easy to tell when someone isnt tellin the truth when they dont focus on the problem but change the focus onto their own issues. Seller spends very little time saying he is sure that it wasnt damaged and then spends alot of time saying well you got it for "free" neway.
Luckily it was 20 bux so when ya dont get it you arent out that much and he gets the tarnished image.

Yep, I really doubt I'll see that $20 again.... Mario89 seems to be a punk, so I posted this thread in order to save someone else the headache from dealing Mario89 and with the possibility of getting burned by him.

You should be able to click on his trader feedback score by his name then click the submit feedback link.

Enter the details and click submit.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/itrader.php?u=36588

Go there and click to submit feedback. Make sure you are filling out the form all the way.



Wow, I was sure trying to make that much harder than it was. That was super easy! Done! I even put a link to this thread in it. :)

Thanks!

I suppose I should have expected him to retalliate and leave me bad feedback. Is there any way to dispute bad Itrader feedback?

Way to "Own-up" to your mistake Mario89!

Mario now has made 17 responses in my iTrader feedback. Maybe I should nominate Mario to be banned...... Mods?

Mario, Do you really think that giving me bad feedback will stop me? really? If anything it will only make me more persistant to make sure you any person you try to sell something to will think twice.... FYI.....

Buyer beware man, lucky it was onl 20 bucks, thanks for posting I personally will never do business with him. people on these forums are just out to scam a buck and they dont care who its from.

You should PM a mod a link to this thread and see if the negative feedback can be removed. There is no reason for him to give you bad feedback since you paid for his items as agreed. You had a problem after the sale and he won't correct it, but that does not give him the right to leave you bad feedback

You have the proof etc., no reason for you to have negative feedback. $20 for a damged part is a deal compared to some of the damaged parts sold on here I expect so that's a positive. however he did send you the correct item I guess that could theoretically be used. just slightly misleading about condition. my 2cents /

Good warning. Lucky you are only out $20. I dont think he intended to be misleading at first, but his story obviously doesn't add up to yours. Take your $20 loss and chalk it up to lessons learned.

This is why i always paypal. Cause at least you can get a refund most of the time.

^^in this case paypal would not issue a refund. The only thing paypal cares about is if the buyer received the goods...and he did. So, he would still be S.O.L. if he had used paypal. Like everyone else said, good thing it was only $20 and not $2000 or something..

You should PM a mod a link to this thread and see if the negative feedback can be removed. There is no reason for him to give you bad feedback since you paid for his items as agreed. You had a problem after the sale and he won't correct it, but that does not give him the right to leave you bad feedback

I PM'd all three Mods in this forum, and no response...:confused:

Thanks for this post, im gonna stay away now that ive read the whole thing. I was just about to paypal 190 for a 90mm TB.

Thanks for this post, im gonna stay away now that ive read the whole thing. I was just about to paypal 190 for a 90mm TB.



[Mr Burns] Excellent!!!![/Mr Burns]

That makes me happy. That was the whole point of this thread is to make other people aware of his shady dealings, and crappy attitude when confronted with issues.

Well I posted in his for sale add a link to this thread. A couple of hours later I get this PM...



listen you piece of shit. you post in one of my threads again ill have one of my buddies come by your place and you can discuss everything in person you scum bag.


I respond with this:
Mario, you need to understand that that if you are threatening me, I can and will involve law enforcement. You can play E-badass all you want. You must know that I will protect myself and my Family with any and all means at my disposal. I will be also forwarding this message off to the forum Moderators just so you know. This is a public forum and I can Post what I want, Where I want as long as it conforms to forum rules. Until you accept responsibility for selling me bad parts, I'll post in every for sale thread you start to keep others from getting burned just like I did. So go ahead tuff guy. Keep threatening me...

His response...

im not threatening you at all, but im not some punk kind that you will fuck up every post that i make.. you fuck with me ill fuck with you, works both ways,, so keep fucking with me tough guy and you will see what happens, my cousin is a attorney and he said that its against the law to post like you did in my thread, you can make your own but you cant post in mine.. so keep doing what you doing and you will have a law suit on your hands ,,


Really Mario? Resorting to threatening me? oh wait, Now you're going to Sue me? for what? telling the truth?

I'm sure this isn't the end of my little buddy! I'll keep on posting the replies here so anyone that may try to deal with him in the future can see what an immature little child you are dealing with.

Wow, Mario89 is quite the tool, oh wait - I take it back, I don't want to get sued!

Back up to the top... Looks like another buyer has backed away from Mario after reading this thread. Hopefully he'll have a hard time selling anything here until he makes this deal right.

Cousin...attorney...illegal...lol. There's nothing illegal about posting in a public forum provided you don't commit libel. Example: If you posted that Mario89 is an alien from Saturn, this is not libel because a reasonable person (as defined by law) would not believe the statement. However, if you posted that Mario89 is *claiming* to be an alien from Saturn and he could prove that your statement legitimately cost him a sale, job, marriage, etc, you have committed libel.
On the other hand, if you posted that Mario89 fails to do proper research on shipping quotes before selling parts, then sends defective parts, then refuses to handle his buisness in a mature manner, you'd just simply be right. The fact that you posted it in "his" thread and essentially hijacked it is not illegal in the slightest. Where I'm from, we call that "good looking out" for others.

MArio has fucked people over for years and should have got banned from here years ago. I still dont know why he is allowed on this site. You got ripped and thats how he rolls. SOrry but it happens

HAHAHAHAHA!!! WOW Mario, your cousin attorney said that?? Somebody must have slept through law school....

...oh wait, that's right, your cousin isn't an attorney at all and you are making crap up. :secret2: Fess up to selling a bad part and trying to play with numbers to confuse Deserttaco, it didn't work. You should keep in mind that most people on this board are more intelligent than you. (basing off of this thread and your responses)

Sorry to hear about this Deserttaco. There are just so many tools out there...*cough*Mario*cough*

Gotta love feedback like this where the seller is OBVIOUSLY wrong.

Mario89 sounds like a total douche. Sorry you got ripped Deserttaco.

Hope this guy gets banned and someone teaches him and his FAILED attorney cousin what should happen to people that rip people off and threaten them.

Being a neutral reader and after reading this post sounds like Mario89 is another flake deadbeat, Red flag number one is he only wants a money order, I never pay for anything on the internet, only if I can use Paypal and they kinda suck as well but I only use a CREDIT CARD ONLY!!! NEVER A DEBIT CARD to pay for things even through Paypal, if Paypal wont help you, your credit card company will and I have had to go that route a few times, it seems there are more and more flakes selling crap especially on Ebay. The reason he wants a money order only is because he has no credit cause he already ruined his credit and cannot even get a bank account which is why he had to pay $3.00 to get the money order cashed, a honest person has a bank account and just deposits a money order for FREE or has a Paypal account and will accept payment that way. From his posts not only is he a liar but a dumb liar as he cant even keep his lies straight. As for your money yeah you will never see it again as it is too much of a hassle for $20.00, you should have showed his address from the money order so if someone lives close by they can go and piss on his car if he even has one, and dont worry I strongly believe what goes around comes around either he will get screwed in a transaction or a family member of his will that will affect him in some way. if you make a deal for a set price plus shipping a deal is a deal is a deal you cant go back and say I bought bubble wrap and I had to put gas in my car to get to UPS and I was hungry so I had to buy a burger, get real flake and man-up. In this world sometimes all a man has left is his word and if you cant keep your word you are just another deadbeat loser, and the good part is he already knows that, and eventually give them enough rope and they will hang themselves and realize they have burnt all of their bridges and noone will even answer to their crying!

^^ True, but even those of us that are respectable and reliable still do money orders. I sent almost 12K in money orders to a guy on here, because paypal takes 3% from the seller when he receives money (that's $360...ridiculous). Yeah, it was a risk from my end, but he is a reputable seller, gave me his address, his phone number, called me, and is a moderator. So money orders don't necessarily mean anything, but in general, they're a bad idea.
And you can use a debit card...they are issued by a credit card company (visa debit can be used anywhere visa is accepted), the protection is the same.

^^ True, but even those of us that are respectable and reliable still do money orders. I sent almost 12K in money orders to a guy on here, because paypal takes 3% from the seller when he receives money (that's $360...ridiculous). Yeah, it was a risk from my end, but he is a reputable seller, gave me his address, his phone number, called me, and is a moderator. So money orders don't necessarily mean anything, but in general, they're a bad idea.
And you can use a debit card...they are issued by a credit card company (visa debit can be used anywhere visa is accepted), the protection is the same.


Yes there are still a good bunch of guys that are honest and treat people like they want to be treated, but there is a few select douche bags out there still that think they can get away with internet robbery and believe me a whole bunch of them do, WHY because it is almost impossible to waste the time and money and resources to go after someone 5,6 or 7 states away and 100% of the time law enforcement will never get involved over a $20.00 transaction in other states. And I have to correct you on the debit card issue you mentioned, sorry but you are 100% wrong DEBIT cards are issued by your BANK and BANKS only, which may or may not be a credit card company in which you have a account with to back up the money you are sending which is essentially your money to begin with and you do not have any recourse on deadbeat sellers, A CREDIT CARD is issued by a CREDIT CARD company which may or may not be a bank as well but you are much more protected by a set of FEDERAL LAWS governing the CREDIT CARD companies. Sounds like you have had a positive experience with the use of MO's as I have in the past and I have probably bought and sold 100's of items on Ebay and 99% of the transactions were positive, but it only takes getting screwed once and I learned never again, I almost got hit with a $500.00 loss I bought 2 headlight assy's which at the time were worth $500 for the set and a rack and pinion and a 18" wheel l and some dash cowl parts and paid $800.00 for the items, well I never got the headlights and the basically gave me the run around, I tried to fight it through Paypal and they decided in the sellers favor because he had a tracking number showing it was delivered but for all Paypal knew he could have sent me a pack of cigarrettes but he almost got away with it, all this after I forwarded my dated email conversation to Paypal where he basically told me to go and FU*K OFF, luckily I paid with a credit card and it took me almost 2 months and a thousand emails and I had to send the few parts that he did send back, I too could have sent him a rock back, probably should have, as my credit card company also only wanted a tracking number showing the items were returned it cost me $26.00 to ship the stuff back, but I got all of my money back. My credit card company debited Paypal and in turn Paypal took it from his account and he had a negative balance with Paypal until he paid Paypal back and he sells on Ebay under barryks123 he advertised his phone number and always wants to do the deals off of Ebay and is very insistent on a Money Order or cashiers check, beacuse you have no recourse with those forms of payment, I insisted on PayPal and I even paid the 3% fees that he would have been charged but I told him that is the only way I would pay, he was probably hoping I paid through paypal with a debit card but as I said I always use my credit card so that if Paypal wont protect me the credit card will almost always side with their client.

Just want to bring this back up to the top... looks like Mario is having some difficulties selling parts... Wonder why. :)

Just want to bring this back up to the top... looks like Mario is having some difficulties selling parts... Wonder why. :)

Yeah, he got pretty upset when I warned people about his dealings. For a guy who supposedly has a business he sure doesn't know how to conduct himself on the net. Atleast it will help others know about him.

Just read everything. What a butt nugget. Then to threaten you on top of everything? What a fag

Yeah, he's quite a turd. Turns out that there was just another thread posted here in the bad sellers forum about him. Weird, who'd have thought we would have seen another one. (ME!) You'd think that people would at least search his username and read this thread before deciding if they want to take the chance and do business with him.

I still haven't heard anything from his "LAWYER" Cousin about the law suit. I guess he decided that the first ammendment outweighs Mario getting butthurt. :buttkick:

I have bought lots of parts frome him and never had a problem with him.

I certianly hope that Mario has changed his ways, but doubt it. Did you have any issues with the parts you purchased? As I said in the original post he was quite plesant to deal with right up until I had issues with the part he sold me. That's when his tone changed, and you get what I have posted about here.

shouldn't matter how much the shipping cost.. you paid $70 for the alt, $20 for the boot, and $20 for shipping. $110 Total.. It's not your fault the seller didn't properly prepare and plan for costs like boxes, bubble wrap, and to get an ACTUAL shipping quote before selling. Plus he sold you an item that won't do you any good as you have stated. Mario89 = FAIL

BINGO!!! Not your fault he mis-quoted for the shipping...


BTW.. who the fuck are you shipping through? $30 to ship an alternator? I shipped a PROPERLY wrapped stall across the country for that much money man.

BINGO!!! Not your fault he mis-quoted for the shipping...


BTW.. who the fuck are you shipping through? $30 to ship an alternator? I shipped a PROPERLY wrapped stall across the country for that much money man.

Who are you shipping through?A converter shipped across the country for less than $30.00.With the price of gas going out of control,its not cheap to ship any thing now.But if your talking about usps it might be much cheaper but 50/50 the person your shipping it to will even get it.

I live in Chicago.> You sound like a tough guy Mario,, Wanna get your A_hole ripped open>> Huh tough guy

WTF is your problem ^^^^are the steroids makeing you crazy

WTF is your problem ^^^^are the steroids makeing you crazy

who mario?

indyboom

I live in Chicago.> You sound like a tough guy Mario,, Wanna get your A_hole ripped open>> Huh tough guy

Doesnt look like it????