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Old 09-12-2010, 11:51 AM
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I am not sure where to post this so hear goes. I am thinking of selling my 01 pewter Z28 a4 so i can get a 05-06 goat m6 6.0.
I am wondering what are my loss's from going for the Z to the GOAT, besides the t-tops and slick long style.
I have always had 5.0 5spds and my camaro is a a4 and I miss having some gears to shift so i have been looking at the goats now with the m6.
I love my Z but I had to have a back operation last oct so getting in and out can sometimes be hurtful with the sloped winsheild so I was looking at something a little easier to get into like the goat.
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The GTO will be a slower car that is harder to make "fast" in relative terms. They are near 4000lbs with a driver and under powered. The LS2's aren't quite as bad, but it takes about 500rwhp in a GTO to outrun a 450rwhp F-body.

GTO's are nice cruisers that can be decently quick, but if you want something fast then you need to keep the Z28. Convert it to a 6 speed if you want a manual that bad. The swap will be cheaper than the trouble/$$ spent selling your car/buying a GTO.

Here's a comparison for food thought. 2 of my customers raced recently. Car A was a 440rwhp heads/cam GTO, Car B was a 420rwhp cam only SS. 4 out of 4 races, the SS wiped the GTO out. They even switched drivers on the last 2 races and the end result was the same. Both cars were 6 speeds.
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The GTO doesn't have heated seats or a sunroof, and the gas tank is behind the rear seat so the trunk is small. The LS2 is great engine and the GTO handles well, but it has rear wheel hop issues. And since it's heavier than a Camaro it's slower with the same mods.
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My brother i law has a 06 M6 with a cam and i got an 02 Z28 M6 thats almost stock just headers and a K&N filter and i whipe him everytime! his has about 30k miles nd has had both half shafts replaced, and is needing a clutch now, so IMO the GTO is a hunk of junk and they aint that comfortable either.
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I was gonna go with a goat a year ago. I ended up getting my 3rd ls1 f body and im glad I did. gtos are heavy cars. I wouldnt trade any of my camaros for a gto.
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Thank you all for the replys that help's alot on me making a decision on what not to get lol what do you all feel about 03-04 mach 1 or a 03-04 cobra ? The only reason I ask about the ford is my wife likes the mustangs still and everyone knows the wife has the last say lol
But thanks for all your replys
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same thing....i would NEVER trade for or buy a mustang over my camaros. bwahaahha
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same thing....i would NEVER trade for or buy a mustang over my camaros. bwahaahha
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Ford has never did anything for me. Maybe it's the lack of style the Mustang has. Sure it's got a new 5.0, but in the end the styling hasn't really changed in the passed 10 years. The new 5.0 GT doesn't have anything on a 4th Gen F-Body or even 5th Gen Camaro, being superior IMO in both style and performance. 60k for a Shelby Super SnakeŽ come on That's Grand Sport territory (END RANT)
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03-04 cobra not comfortable, great sound but bad ride, plust it has IRS like the GTO,
Have you looked at like an CTS-V?
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The GTO's are great daily drivers. Their interior is very comfortable, and the ride quality is much nicer than my Trans Am.
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Originally Posted by 1baaadz28
My brother i law has a 06 M6 with a cam and i got an 02 Z28 M6 thats almost stock just headers and a K&N filter and i whipe him everytime! his has about 30k miles nd has had both half shafts replaced, and is needing a clutch now, so IMO the GTO is a hunk of junk and they aint that comfortable either.
Not that comfortable? Those front seats are incredible! I'm a bit surprised by Damian's post. I thought the LS2 GTO's were about equivalent to LS1 f-bodies, stock to stock or mod for mod - that the increased motor made up for the increased weight. Apparently not.

BTW, this thread belongs in the General LSX Discussion forum where such things are bandied about.
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Originally Posted by ChefTA
Once a GM man, always a GM man
Ford has never did anything for me. Maybe it's the lack of style the Mustang has. Sure it's got a new 5.0, but in the end the styling hasn't really changed in the passed 10 years. The new 5.0 GT doesn't have anything on a 4th Gen F-Body or even 5th Gen Camaro, being superior IMO in both style and performance. 60k for a Shelby Super SnakeŽ come on That's Grand Sport territory (END RANT)
The 4th gen F-Bodies looked the same for MORE than 10 years. And the new 5.0 Mustang blows the doors off an F-Body and the new Camaro. I think you need to read up on that car and it's new motor.
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GTOs are far better DDs.


if youre looking for a better performer keep your fbody.




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