LS1 swap is running hot (over 210*F) any ideas?
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LS1 swap is running hot (over 210*F) any ideas?
So, I have FINALLY finished my modified LS1 swap into my once dead 1985 Corvette. Today is a good day.
Only one issue and I hope that someone here can help me solve it.
I am running at 200*F – 225*F
Here is what I have done so far:
Replaced the thermostat
Replaced the radiator cap
I tried to get the block to burp by filling through the coolant temperature sensor, rocking the car and slightly reving the engine with the cap off.
Is it possible that the block still has not burped?
I am running the factory 1985 fans. They are both coming on at 180*F
Is it possible that these fans are undersized? I have been following this build http://mcspeed.homestead.com/LSXC4.html the only difference is that I used a larger cam, CNC ported 243 heads and that’s about it. In this build they used the factory fans.
Any help would be great, thanks Mark
Only one issue and I hope that someone here can help me solve it.
I am running at 200*F – 225*F
Here is what I have done so far:
Replaced the thermostat
Replaced the radiator cap
I tried to get the block to burp by filling through the coolant temperature sensor, rocking the car and slightly reving the engine with the cap off.
Is it possible that the block still has not burped?
I am running the factory 1985 fans. They are both coming on at 180*F
Is it possible that these fans are undersized? I have been following this build http://mcspeed.homestead.com/LSXC4.html the only difference is that I used a larger cam, CNC ported 243 heads and that’s about it. In this build they used the factory fans.
Any help would be great, thanks Mark
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I don't want to sound like a total idiot, but am I understanding correctly that the 2001 LS1 I put in my corvette has an operating temp 230*F?
At what temperature should I become concerned? My after market gauge only goes to 250*F Also, I have a 185*F thermostat shouldn't run cooler?
Again, I am not trying to sound like an moron, I just don't want to screw up my engine.
Thanks, Mark
At what temperature should I become concerned? My after market gauge only goes to 250*F Also, I have a 185*F thermostat shouldn't run cooler?
Again, I am not trying to sound like an moron, I just don't want to screw up my engine.
Thanks, Mark
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230 degrees is hot! should not be that high. Have you tried to bleed the air that could be traped in the heads out? There is a small hose under the throttle body(it connects both heads together),let the car run for a while and pull the hose off while its running for at least 10 seconds to see if bubbles come out.Some times air gets traped in the heads and creates HOT SPOTS.Do this three or four times in like 10 minutes and all the air should bleed out.When the car has cooled simply make sure radiator is topped off.
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seriously, you will never get an accurate temp reading from a factory gauge. I run an aftermarket gauge and I have seen as high as mid-230s in the summer with the ac on and idling. Car ran perfect at that temp, no issues. And stock fan low setting is in the low/mid 220s. These motors dont run 190 unless you have a 160 thermostat and have your fans set to come on early or its cold as ****.
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230 degrees is hot! should not be that high. Have you tried to bleed the air that could be traped in the heads out? There is a small hose under the throttle body(it connects both heads together),let the car run for a while and pull the hose off while its running for at least 10 seconds to see if bubbles come out.Some times air gets traped in the heads and creates HOT SPOTS.Do this three or four times in like 10 minutes and all the air should bleed out.When the car has cooled simply make sure radiator is topped off.
seriously, you will never get an accurate temp reading from a factory gauge. I run an aftermarket gauge and I have seen as high as mid-230s in the summer with the ac on and idling. Car ran perfect at that temp, no issues. And stock fan low setting is in the low/mid 220s. These motors dont run 190 unless you have a 160 thermostat and have your fans set to come on early or its cold as ****.
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Sounds pretty normal, As long as it doesnt get too much over the mid 230s you are fine IMO. I got on mine at about 236 to see if there was any missing or pinging and it was perfect.
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Are you running electric fans? If so where is the temp sensor at? After I did my head/cam swap it took forever to get all the air out.
After you run it is the coolant level going down at all?
I am going off the factory gauge so who knows what temp I am actually at.
After you run it is the coolant level going down at all?
I am going off the factory gauge so who knows what temp I am actually at.
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230 is very normal if you havent changed any fan settings...
just because you have a colder thermostat doesnt mean its going to run less hot.. just means its going to get the slower because it opens sooner.
also.. being an 85 corvette.. if you still have the stock radiator.. you need to buy a new one and upgrade to a new radiator designed for an ls1
that will help greatly
if you are running the ls1 pcm, then change the fan settings to come on lower to keep you on the 210~220 ish range
ls1's make the most power at in that range
just because you have a colder thermostat doesnt mean its going to run less hot.. just means its going to get the slower because it opens sooner.
also.. being an 85 corvette.. if you still have the stock radiator.. you need to buy a new one and upgrade to a new radiator designed for an ls1
that will help greatly
if you are running the ls1 pcm, then change the fan settings to come on lower to keep you on the 210~220 ish range
ls1's make the most power at in that range
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The PCM commands low speed fans on under the following conditions:
• Engine coolant temperature exceeds approximately 108°C (226°F).
• When A/C is requested and the ambient temperature is greater than 10°C (50°F).
• A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1482 kPa (215 psi).
• After the vehicle is shut off if the engine coolant temperature at key-off is greater than 113°C (235°F) and system voltage is more than 12 volts. The fans will stay on for approximately 150 seconds.
The PCM commands High Speed Fans on under the following conditions:
• Engine coolant temperature reaches 112°C (234°F).
• A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1710 kPa (248 psi).
• When certain DTCs set.
this is right from GM Service Info for a 2001 camaro with a LS1. I think your ok. have no worries. As long as it cools down when the fans cut on then your good.
The PCM commands low speed fans on under the following conditions:
• Engine coolant temperature exceeds approximately 108°C (226°F).
• When A/C is requested and the ambient temperature is greater than 10°C (50°F).
• A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1482 kPa (215 psi).
• After the vehicle is shut off if the engine coolant temperature at key-off is greater than 113°C (235°F) and system voltage is more than 12 volts. The fans will stay on for approximately 150 seconds.
The PCM commands High Speed Fans on under the following conditions:
• Engine coolant temperature reaches 112°C (234°F).
• A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1710 kPa (248 psi).
• When certain DTCs set.
this is right from GM Service Info for a 2001 camaro with a LS1. I think your ok. have no worries. As long as it cools down when the fans cut on then your good.
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I don't want to sound like a total idiot, but am I understanding correctly that the 2001 LS1 I put in my corvette has an operating temp 230*F?
At what temperature should I become concerned? My after market gauge only goes to 250*F Also, I have a 185*F thermostat shouldn't run cooler?
Again, I am not trying to sound like an moron, I just don't want to screw up my engine.
Thanks, Mark
At what temperature should I become concerned? My after market gauge only goes to 250*F Also, I have a 185*F thermostat shouldn't run cooler?
Again, I am not trying to sound like an moron, I just don't want to screw up my engine.
Thanks, Mark
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