Street Racing & Kill Stories - two 650 HP GTR's vs my 550 HP Viper

Alright.....


my buddy with a white SP engineering GTR called me up and asked if I was down to run him and another silver GTR .....

UMMMM...hell yea!


The specs...


new white GTR
fully builts turbos tuneing ect by SP engineering 600 awhp pump gas and 800 on race gas (aprox 3800 pounds ) vehicle had a 170 pound driver and 150 pound passenger (pump gas on these runs)

new silver GTR
maxed out stock tubos and all the minor bolt ons plus extensive tuneing 600 awhp (aprox 3800 pounds) vehicle had a 170 driver and 175 pound passenger

03 yellow viper
most of the bolt ons minus headers/throttle body/intake manifold 490 rwhp (aprox 3300 pounds) 210 pound driver and NO passenger



race 1= we start at 70 mph with me in second gear..beep Beep BEEP....Dead nuts from 70-130 mph against the silver GTR


race 2= we start at 50 mph with me in second gear...beep beep BEEP...white GTR pulls me by 2 cars from 50-130 mph (50 in second is a bad lull for me)

race 3=we start at 65 mph with me in second gear...beep beep BEEP...dead nutz with the silver GTR again


race 4= again with the silver GTR...3 beep it and this time I put on a car length that the silver GTR can never make up

race5= this time with the white GTR....3 beep it and we are dead nutz and I end up a 1/2 car ahead at shut down....

NEEDLESS TO SAY THE SNAKE IMPRESSED ME TODAY...100 RWHP DOWN BUT THE WEIGHT AND TORQUE ADVANTAGE REALLY SHINED THROUGH


IVE GOT VIDEOS ON MY PHONE BUT IM HAVEING A VERY HARD TIME

Weight and driving skills were definitely on ur side. I bet all three cars sound crazy at WOT!

Black GT-R's are so under represented... :( Congrats on the kills.

Weight and driving skills were definitely on ur side. I bet all three cars sound crazy at WOT!

I doubt driving skill really plays a factor into a GT-R.

I doubt driving skill really plays a factor into a GT-R.

This. It paddle shifters so killemall couldn't be better than that. As long as he nails his shifts, he's in good shape but won't beat a dual clutch tranny.

Killemall, how do you have "most of the bolt ons" if you don't have headers, intake manifold and throttle body? Those ARE most of the bolt ons :lol:. What do you have? CAI and exhaust I'm guessing. That's not most :jest:

titanium exhaust
no cats
kn filters
light weight fly wheel
light weight under drive pulley
sct tune
roller rockers




here is the vid..It is very very crappy as I had no choice but to use my web cam to record my phone videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM27oR75YnE


Their is also a nice HI DEF vid with only one of my races...Of course the GTR guys posted the vid were I started in second gear at 50 mph and lost by two cars...

But you can see in my vid that their was a differant story...LOL

titanium exhaust
no cats
kn filters
light weight fly wheel
light weight under drive pulley
sct tune
roller rockers

Nice runs.

Curious as what times you run with those mods? And why rocker arms before LT's :confused:

here is the vid from the GTR side of the house...

Now wouldnt you know that I beat the white GTR by a nose one race and beat the silver GTR by a car length one race and tied the silver GTR on a race and lost by a car to the silver GTR on a race....

But whats the only video they posted..the one were i started in second gear at 50 mph and lulled like crazy and got of it when he had two cars on me...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLa-l6qX3bE

IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO GET YOUR OWN VIDS....No one would belieave I hung with let alone beat two 600 plus awhp GTR's....especially if they could only see the vid that they posted.....thank God I got my own vid...LOL


But i dont think they did it intentionally...This was more about the top dog GTR to them and I was just the bonus match...LOL

Good Kill man, i just picked up a 03srt10 505stock.....

Nice runs.

Curious as what times you run with those mods? And why rocker arms before LT's :confused:


1000 feet elevation in 75 degree weather with my own personal
timing gear Ive done a best of 11.6 at 123 on the stock tires....

60 foot=1.9
0-60 in 3.6
1/8 mile=7.6 at 95 mph
1/4 mile=11.67 at 123 mph

For referance the white GTR in the vids above went 11.68 at 128 mph at the same location with my timing gear and my buddies cammed C6Z06 with 500 rwhp went 11.9 at 124 mph

Good Kill man, i just picked up a 03srt10 505stock.....

congrats...11 second car that hits 193 mph and you can put the top down in 20 seconds...gotta love it!

1000 feet elevation in 75 degree weather with my own personal
timing gear Ive done a best of 11.6 at 123 on the stock tires....

60 foot=1.9
0-60 in 3.6
1/8 mile=7.6 at 95 mph
1/4 mile=11.67 at 123 mph

For referance the white GTR in the vids above went 11.68 at 128 mph at the same location with my timing gear and my buddies cammed C6Z06 with 500 rwhp went 11.9 at 124 mph

Was that on a sticky tire? just asking because I see a lot of sub par times across the net in stock or bolt on cars. A lot of guys stuck in the 12's which leaves me scratching my head. I went 11.8 @ 123 in my old 03 roadster stock down to the filters fwiw.

Stock tires, so id assume not sticky

1000 feet elevation in 75 degree weather with my own personal
timing gear Ive done a best of 11.6 at 123 on the stock tires....

60 foot=1.9
0-60 in 3.6
1/8 mile=7.6 at 95 mph
1/4 mile=11.67 at 123 mph

For referance the white GTR in the vids above went 11.68 at 128 mph at the same location with my timing gear and my buddies cammed C6Z06 with 500 rwhp went 11.9 at 124 mph

What kind of timing gear? Also where the hell do you keep finding these nice ass car to race during the day makes for great watching:chug:
Also how much power do you really make this thread alone has 3 diffrent number on it. 550 in title 490 on firts post and 475 on cell video????

What kind of timing gear? Also where the hell do you keep finding these nice ass car to race during the day makes for great watching:chug:
Also how much power do you really make this thread alone has 3 diffrent number on it. 550 in title 490 on firts post and 475 on cell video????

With his mods still well under 500rwhp.

476 SAE
491 standard
550 crank HP

I was on the stock tires...THe SRT10's ARE very HARD to drag race...My 99 rt10 was much much much easier..the SRT10 is faster stock for stock by 2 tenths and 2-3 mph but took A LOT of practice...

My first time out with intake/roller rockers I was running 12.6 at 115 at the same 1000 foot location...

About 20 passes later and lots of internet studying for tips and I ran a 11.8 at 122 with those same mods.....


Gotta give those GTR's credit...605 awhp with just bolt ons and injectors still on the stock turbos with lots of tuneing.....If he didnt have the passenger he would have probally beat me every time..

Also the white one is just playing aound...that 680 awhp number he said he was rolling in these races turns into 800 awhp real quick when he wants too with C16

With his mods still well under 500rwhp.

476 sae currently
im getting a KN filter intake instead of just the filters I have and a BBK throttle body this weak. hopeing that will get me 490 rwhp SAE....Then shooting for 510 rwhp with headers/ported manifold..

I really just wanna be bolt ons as much as possible because the look on peoples faces is priceless when I beat or run even with their highly modded fully built car or FI car and they ask what I have and I just say..."some bolt ons"

476 SAE
491 standard
550 crank HP



ok i see but it would make more sence to use sae corrected numbers to keep away from confussion. that said nice day time vids keep them coming:cool:

I normally do...But Id bet my nut sack that the GTR guys numbers are standard so I kept it equal.....usually opnly the domestic guys care about SAE and most import guys dont even know what that is...They just care about the biggest number possible...

I thought it was funny because I was their with them and it almost seemed like my cars sub 500 rwhp number wasnt even a threat to them..

After the white and silver GTR raced a few times the white GTR owner said..man I dont think you should race him Killemall....

I was doing the math in my head and thought...3500 pounds (with driver) and around 500 rwhp vs 4100 pounds with driver and passenger and around 600 awhp...

This is gonna be close..

The thing is I have raced the white one many times and got beat by 2 cars every time because we were starting at 50 mph with me in second gear..

My car does 62 mph in first gear and 50 mph in second is a DEAD SPOT...So I asked for 70 mph rolls and they happily accepted my challange...

I wish i could do 50 mph in first gear but the car is uncontrollable in first gear at 50 mph and a danger to myself and any other cars around me...So second gear at 70 mph was safe and got me close to a good spot in my rpm range for a good start point

476 sae currently
im getting a KN filter intake instead of just the filters I have and a BBK throttle body this weak. hopeing that will get me 490 rwhp SAE....Then shooting for 510 rwhp with headers/ported manifold..

I really just wanna be bolt ons as much as possible because the look on peoples faces is priceless when I beat or run even with their highly modded fully built car or FI car and they ask what I have and I just say..."some bolt ons"

The K&N looks good at under $300 but I doubt if it will make much over the stock system.

My first mods on my 03 was Kooks lt headers/catted y & dyno tune and that made a BIG difference. Ofcourse not cheap as I think I spent a little over 3k for everything, but it was noticeably faster than before. I was able to stay dead even with a friends stock C6 Z as a result.

For referance the white GTR in the vids above went 11.68 at 128 mph at the same location with my timing gear and my buddies cammed C6Z06 with 500 rwhp went 11.9 at 124 mph

That's a really poorly set up C6Z if it's only got 500whp and it's cammed. :(

The white gtr made 680 sae on an awd mustang dyno on 91 Oct in Cali. A gtr with an identical build went 9.8 145 in the quarter. Of course it was on C16 making about 760 awhp.

My Z06 is set up perfectly for my tastes. Extremely mild cam with little lope for streetability, with an intake and tune and just recently added arh headers. Beats most cars out there and drives almost like stock. Wasn't real interested in a monster cam with crazy lope. To much stop and go traffic in Hawaii.

Thanks.

My Z06 is set up perfectly for my tastes. Extremely mild cam with little lope for streetability, with an intake and tune and just recently added arh headers. Beats most cars out there and drives almost like stock. Wasn't real interested in a monster cam with crazy lope. To much stop and go traffic in Hawaii.
Thanks.

So according to Killemall your C6 Z put down 500 at the tires and runs high 11's @ 124 in the 1/4? Are those corrected times? If so you sure got the mild set up you wanted alright. lol

Nice runs and cars

I've got a date with an 04 SRT10 (same color as yours), stock next week. Im pretty stoked.

The car bone stock dynoed 450whp corrected, so Im thinking I'll run him on low boost first (430whp corrected) and see what happens.

Oh yeah I almost for got what timing gear are you talking about using?

So according to Killemall your C6 Z put down 500 at the tires and runs high 11's @ 124 in the 1/4? Are those corrected times? If so you sure got the mild set up you wanted alright. lol

Well I haven't actually clocked it at a track here in Oahu. As we don't have a track any more. I was using his Gtech thing and was running it down an unprepped side of country road and I'm not sure how accurate a time your really going to get. Why should I care about 1/4 mile times when 99% of the time on the street I crush everyone. When I get beat bad over and over I'll upgrade. So far it hasn't happened. Besides that's my dd/grocery getter. Good luck with your car.

Well I haven't actually clocked it at a track here in Oahu. As we don't have a track any more. I was using his Gtech thing and was running it down an unprepped side of country road and I'm not sure how accurate a time your really going to get.

Well that explains the subpar times.


y should I care about 1/4 mile times when 99% of the time on the street I crush everyone. When I get beat bad over and over I'll upgrade. So far it hasn't happened.

Good point. I wish the competition was that easy where I live at.


Good luck with your car.

Thanks! (assuming you weren't being sarcastic, :suspiciou)

The white gtr made 680 sae on an awd mustang dyno on 91 Oct in Cali. A gtr with an identical build went 9.8 145 in the quarter. Of course it was on C16 making about 760 awhp.


Are you talking about one of the AMS GT-Rs?

This is a pretty cool pic taken by one of my buddies who works there:

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac217/schultzri2/65522_450255595016_512380016_5337799_571165_n.jpg

Are you talking about one of the AMS GT-Rs?

This is a pretty cool pic taken by one of my buddies who works there:

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac217/schultzri2/65522_450255595016_512380016_5337799_571165_n.jpg


No. It's a SP-Engineering GTR.

http://www.sp-power.com/category/sp-film/

at the time fastest.. but records were meant to be broken..

Hing's black GTR is the identical build.


http://vimeo.com/10932574

Gotta chime in about the C6z06 RSKY has...

IMHO his car is the fastest car in our lil bunch..faster than my Viper and both those GTR's..(unless the white one up the boost but then he has a lil more lag..So still not sure)

I ran the 11.6 because I have a 100 passes at that spot with the same FX2 timer in that car...The GTR ran the 11.6 because it's a awd GTR...

RSKY's 11.9 at 124 out of only 3 passes on street tires is more than just impressive...


Ive raced him and both these GTR's..ive raced them all while I was in second gear starting at 70 and with out a doubt his car is the fastest...

back when he was around 500 rwhp with intake/tune and mild cam we raced MANY times with me at my current 476 rwhp...

Out come was always the same...Dead even or he was a car ahead..a few times a car and a half ahead....

raced the two GTR's and was even with the silver run except for one run when he was a car ahead and another when I was a car ahead...

white one dusted me starting at 50...but when I started at 70 in second gear it was a differant race and he was beaten by a lil....

I have never ONCE beaten rsky...Ive tied him many many many times (weve went 30 times or so over differant days)

I beat the silver GTR on one run and I have beaten the white GTR twice....Once with him at 760 awhp and once with him at 680 the other day..

AGAIN I HAVE NEVER BEATEN RSKY EXCEPT FROM A DEAD STOP..FROM A ROLL NEVER HAPPENNED...

heres the crazy part....he has added another 20 rwhp to his car through headers and tuneing....Meaning that he will walk me or those GTR's now by a solid 2 car legths...

I hope the GTR guys are starting to see the picture Im painting..It's not just about numbers....But power to weight..

520 rwhp and 3150 pounds in a c6Z06 is an ANIMAL to say the leaste and I cant wait till he runs them

im out of my league with the car im going to point out.

but i completely understand the power/weight. no one crusing in their stockish f-bod or gt ever expects a lil 4door slobalt to pull on them.
no one gets that 2900lb + 280hp = wtf kinda cobalt is that? :lol:

Gotta chime in about the C6z06 RSKY has...

IMHO his car is the fastest car in our lil bunch..faster than my Viper and both those GTR's..(unless the white one up the boost but then he has a lil more lag..So still not sure)

I ran the 11.6 because I have a 100 passes at that spot with the same FX2 timer in that car...The GTR ran the 11.6 because it's a awd GTR...

RSKY's 11.9 at 124 out of only 3 passes on street tires is more than just impressive...

Nothing impressive about a cammed Z running those times period. Maybe if he were bone stock, maybe, even then it wouldn't be anything all that special. I'm sure after he learns to drive his times will drop dramatically.

The point Im maeking is that RSKY never drag races his car..thats not what he is in to..And While i have beat him a few times in eads up drag racing starting from a standstill....Never happenned from a roll...

As far as I know only one car and one car only has ever edged him out since 2007 when he got the car...

The location is 1000 feet elevation and 75 degree hawaiian humid always raining weather..

121-123 is low for a bolt on 476 rwhp srt10 viper as 123-124 is low for a mild cam C6z06...And the 128 mph pass for the GTR at 630 awhp was also low.....Maybe the elevation and air ..maybe the timing gear is a lil slow....

But what he can do in the 1/4 mile no were near reflects what his car does in a roll...Again I cant wait till he runs the GTR's.....Theirs gonna be some surprises......ALL in fun cause these are good guys..

BUT EYE BROWS WILL BE RAISED WHEN THE Z06 starts walking

Are you talking about one of the AMS GT-Rs?

This is a pretty cool pic taken by one of my buddies who works there:

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac217/schultzri2/65522_450255595016_512380016_5337799_571165_n.jpg

Full Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OutkvEm90Y

Vid is messed up for me :confused: Crap, wanted to see that. Good races, and smokin' ride man :)

520whp with a mild cam sounds much more where it should be. Glad you enjoy it.

for anyone interested I went out drag raceing the other night but only got an 11.7 at 124.7....2.0 60 foot..

car is down. i redlined real bad one run and keep getting check engine codes. i changed the plugs but code is still there. Oreded new plugs and wires and will let the dealership figure it out..Hopeing no internals but dayumi drive this thing hard so who knows.

ive got a new air intake and throttle body coming so I will re-race these GTR's and let them know whats up