J 98ta

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Are these converters very 'cam friendly' ? I love the idea of them being tighter down low (60/40 street-strip car), but would this cause any problems at idle with say a 230-240 cam ? I am still planning on retaining the A/C. Maybe not a concern, but.....

I have the ability to tune/or get tuned, but do not want a real high idle.

Thanks !
'J

J 98ta

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Anyone ?

People with these converters, what cam are you running ?

Idle rpm ?

What does the rpm shoot up to with avg/moderate acceleration
- say from a stoplight ?

Thanks !!

'J

Elite_Hot_Rod

I've got the SS3800 with an M2 cam 228/232 .607/.598 on a 110 LSA and 3:73's. Cams this big require 850 RPM's or better just to idle, I actually have mine idling closer to 1000 RPM's.

quickWS6

The converter is not going to affect the idle of the car. It doesn't make much sense running even a single-pattern 230 cam with a small stall. I'd go for a big stall and smaller cam every day of the week over a big cam with a small stall. You will have a lot less problems with the smaller cam and a bigger stall. If it was me to do all over again for a street car, I'd get the MTI Stealth II cam, and a SS4000 like the Colonel is running.

Ragtop 99

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Over 230* duration is relatively large. With bigger cams, you want the ability to have a higher idle. The 3800 will be a bit looser and therefore more easily support an 850 - 900 rpm idle than the 3600. Too tight a converter and you will be fighting the car every time you stop.

J 98ta

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Thanks for the reply's

"Too tight a converter and you will be fighting the car every time you stop."

This is what I am trying to avoid. My concern was that if these new yank tq's were tighter, that there may be an issue there. I realize that the tq converter does not directly affect idle, but I do want to keep it at or below 1000 rpm. I am not planning a single pattern, that was just a general duration area that I was thinking. Maybe a TSP 231/237 ?

Elite - What does the rpm run up to when slowly/moderately accel from a stop ? Actual stall at track ?

Thanks again,
J

SnakeKiller

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I had a SS3800 with my old set up 230/238 XER lobes, car idles at 950. Seemed like that converter and cam worked great together. I'm going with a bigger cam with my new setup and I'm thinking about having the converter restalled to atleast 4000, or go to a PT4200.

J 98ta

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SnakeKiller,

Thanks ! What does your RPM shoot up to on the street ? One thing that I do not like with bigger stalls is that it can sound like a M6 car with a bad clutch when slowly/moderately accelerating. Know what I mean here ?

What kind of 60' did you get with it ? Actual stall at track ?

Thanks !
J

Raughammer

Oooo yea. Truer words were never spoken.
but everything is a compromise... you want the performance... you have to deal with the "cons" as well as the "pros".

Good luck in your search.

JNorris

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I would give serious consideration to the TCI 3500 or the Precision Industries Vigilante 3200 converter for the following reasons:

The TCI 3500 and the Vig3200 quality and perform will be equally to that of the SS3600/3800 converter on the street and the track.

Speaking from my experience the customer service you will receive with PI or TCI is far superior to that of Yank. PI and TCI will always answer the phone Yank will maybe 2 out of 10 times.
When you leave a message with Yank about a problem you more than likely will NOT get a call back. If you leave a message about wanting to BUY a converter you will more than likely get a call back.

If you have a problem with the converter PI and TCI (from conversations with Kevin at TCI) will without question be there to support you and they will HONOR their warranty.
From my and others first hand experiences Yank will not HONOR their warranty and will attempt to explain why your PCM, wheels/tires, gears, MAF, TB, or ANY other non stock part on your car caused the Yank converter to fail.

When you pay a premium price for a “premium” product you deserve to get at least good (if not premium) service. You will not get this from Yank unless you are one of the few.

Good luck

John

SnakeKiller

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I know what you mean about it sounding like a slipping clutch. On the streets it'll usually jump up to about 4200 but part of the problem is poor traction. Hard to guess at actual stall but I would say around 3900. Haven't been to the track yet but I'm hoping for big numbers, it put down 508 lbs of torque, with my old setup. It seems to be a good converter, the high STR seems to tighten it up some. It does loose 40 horse from locked to unlocked. Yank said it was my tranny, but I have my doubts. If the tranny is going to slip, its going to slip all the time. Its not going to quit slipping because the converter is locked, then start slipping when you unlock the converter. I'm having my tranny updated while my engine is out. If the problem continues hopefully Yank will step up and take care of it.

Elite_Hot_Rod

Well with the idle set at 1000 RPM the RPM's jump to about 1600 to 1800 but after it settles it's pretty much like stock. It's a tight converter for being that high of a stall, no idle issues except when cold but that's due to the cam. The stall on my converter is exactly 3800 RPM which is exactly where I wanted it, I spray out of the hole on the brake.

J 98ta

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Thanks to everybody for their replys/input. I really appreciate it. Not sure what I am going with yet....

'J