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Old 10-16-2010, 12:41 PM
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I have a 98 fbody with the stock style 0-90 ohm sender in the fuel tank. I swapped out my 1998 PCM to the AEM EMS for the 99-02 fbody as there isn't one specifically for the 1998 cars. The first thing that we had to do was repin the harness to the 1999-2002 pin out. Unfortunately, there is no way to switch out the segment or calibrate it to make it work. AEM says that it's hard coded. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the 98 fuel sender could be wired directly to the 98 gauge in the cluster. Somehow bypassing the PCM. Could someone tell me what wires I need to grab to make this happen?
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
I have a 98 fbody with the stock style 0-90 ohm sender in the fuel tank. I swapped out my 1998 PCM to the AEM EMS for the 99-02 fbody as there isn't one specifically for the 1998 cars. The first thing that we had to do was repin the harness to the 1999-2002 pin out. Unfortunately, there is no way to switch out the segment or calibrate it to make it work. AEM says that it's hard coded. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the 98 fuel sender could be wired directly to the 98 gauge in the cluster. Somehow bypassing the PCM. Could someone tell me what wires I need to grab to make this happen?
Could you changeout the gauge cluster to a 99-02. I have the same problem with mine I did a 98 V6 to 2000 LS1 swap and the fuel gauge is the only thing I dont have working but I do still have my 2000 gauge cluster. thanks j
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Yeah, I'm not looking to get into doing all that. I'll buy a standalone gauge before I do that. I just 100% sure that I have seen that it can be done but I can't find the thread now.
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I haven't actually done this but looking at the wiring diagrams you should be able to connect the in and out from the pcm to the gauge directly. Either at the pcm red connector pin #36 dark blue wire and pcm blue connector pin #10 purple wire. Or at the C210 connector in the right kick panel pin E to H. Cut the wires and splice together.
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Originally Posted by flame
I haven't actually done this but looking at the wiring diagrams you should be able to connect the in and out from the pcm to the gauge directly. Either at the pcm red connector pin #36 dark blue wire and pcm blue connector pin #10 purple wire. Or at the C210 connector in the right kick panel pin E to H. Cut the wires and splice together.
I like the idea of grabbing it in the car. It's only one wire?
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
I like the idea of grabbing it in the car. It's only one wire?
You need to cut and splice the 2 wires together
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You need to do the fuel segment swap to the Van and it will work.
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Originally Posted by flame
You need to cut and splice the 2 wires together
But it's just one wire that has to be tied together? Not 2 going to the gauge that have to tie in to 2 going to the sender?

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You need to do the fuel segment swap to the Van and it will work.
You didn't read the first post, did you? I am NOT using a stock computer. The aftermarket computer will not allow the segment swap.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
But it's just one wire that has to be tied together? Not 2 going to the gauge that have to tie in to 2 going to the sender?
Right all you're doing is taking the pcm out of the loop and running the wire from the sender to the dash.
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NO the OE gauge won't work

The G Vans run 60 hz
The 98 F-Body runs something else
I have another 99 car that was hardwired and it ran 512 hz.
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NO the OE gauge won't work

The G Vans run 60 hz
The 98 F-Body runs something else
I have another 99 car that was hardwired and it ran 512 hz.
What does the G van have to do with anything? My car is a 98 fbody with 98 cluster and 98 sender in the tank which is 0-90 ohm like the LT1 cars. The only way that it shouldn't work wired direct is if the computer is translating the reading from the sender in the tank to something like a 0-5v signal. We still haven't had a chance to mess with it. Maybe tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
What does the G van have to do with anything? My car is a 98 fbody with 98 cluster and 98 sender in the tank which is 0-90 ohm like the LT1 cars. The only way that it shouldn't work wired direct is if the computer is translating the reading from the sender in the tank to something like a 0-5v signal. We still haven't had a chance to mess with it. Maybe tomorrow.
The gauge is PWM driven from the PCM
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Yea you could bypass the puter and wire it directly. You will need a different gauge than the factory because the 98+ is a 240ohm. You will have to put the key on power to the gauge and the return from the sending unit will be wired directly to the gauge. I have a 98 harness wired to a 411 and I am using a 90ohm sending unit hooked to a Autometer. BTW not everybody knows what a AEM setup is. Most people consider the factory units superior in many ways to the aftermarket setups.
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Originally Posted by 69 Ghost
Yea you could bypass the puter and wire it directly. You will need a different gauge than the factory because the 98+ is a 240ohm. You will have to put the key on power to the gauge and the return from the sending unit will be wired directly to the gauge. I have a 98 harness wired to a 411 and I am using a 90ohm sending unit hooked to a Autometer. BTW not everybody knows what a AEM setup is. Most people consider the factory units superior in many ways to the aftermarket setups.
I have worked on all sorts of aftermarket EFI setups. I have a FAST setup in my hand.

BTW the factory PCM's are FAR SUPERIOR
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I didn't want to say that but I would agree.
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Originally Posted by CalEditor
The gauge is PWM driven from the PCM
You're right. It appears after looking at the gauge schematics in AllData the fuel gauge is diff on the 98 too. I guess you need a 97 cluster to make it work.
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Well, that settles it then. I ordered a fuel gauge yesterday.



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