408Maro

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or at least close ..I didnt want to hi jack the 450 hp thread that was posted a few days back so making my own

I got a 01 camaro 6speed with 4.10's that will be with AIR equipment hooked up on stock manifolds and cats and ypipe..the only add ons will be UD pulley,electric cutout and SLP lid with FTRA.

So i was going to go with a 228 and was in the middle of the swap but found cam damage on the g5x3 that was in there and now have to pull the lifters out since the lifter lob is what was damaged, so im here in lovely CA and dont want to have to worry about getting her "passed" at all so ive decided to do a CA smog legal build that will pass with no issues at besides maybe the lid and cutout? and make damn near close to 400rwp a true sleeper

ive seen a post while googling about a 00 t/a with a cheatR cam and a set of tsp 5.3 stage 2.5 heads putting down 406/390 but not sure if thats a setup that pass in CA? if so im trying to go that route

ive checked out the cams and not sure which would be best to get to my goal and hoping youll could help me out its either a tsp 220/200 on a 116 or a cheatR cam but not sure which one would be best to go with..im not trying to go pass the 220 mark even though a 224 on a 114 might pass dont want to risk the fail later

also i got 241's now with prc double springs already will i benefit more off those or a set of 5.3s? stock or with some kind of porting?

and last i currently have a racetronix pump with greentop ford injectors..is that overkill and should i go back to stock injectors and pump? thanks guys and hope to hear replies ASAP

408Maro

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Up top please

NVR_SPDS

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Pick up some AFR 205s, and a 224r cam. I passed easy with that cam, and the heads are the only ones I know of that have a carb e.o. number

RibeiroBJJ

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I just passed with my setup in sig...and thats with lt's...I have a custom spec'd comp cam that was spec'd to pass Ca emissions...In a lq9 I made 369 rwhp with stock heads!! add a set of AFR 205's and you are easily at your goal...I was born in SD and have been doing this a long time..it sucks!
The cam is for sale and has 9k mi on it and is perfect...it has -11* of overlap..I was going to save it when I get my frc c5 but if your interested lmk

Silvy6.0

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x2....

TXZ28LS1

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+1.. i would just go with some AFR 205 or the new AFR heads and a 224 cam on a 114. I believe a 224 cam is the biggest you can go with strict cali testing. Throw in a ported fast 92/92 and you should definitely make great powa!

NORCALMUSCLE1

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Actually u can go more then a 224 and honeslty a 92 92 not worth it honestly...slap some ported 243 cam dual cutouts before cats underdrive pully and e85 .advance the timingmake power..why dont you test me *****.thanks come again..

Advanced Induction

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If you can minimize inlet/exh restriction, then you should be able to simply cut the 241's & gain significantly without deviating from the stock appearance. If you run either a GM LS6 cam, or have someone like us provide a similarly small grind, it can be made to sound near stock as well if you really want to mask the performance. Making 400rwhp is as easy as it gets, although we have not tested w/ factory manifolds if your aim is to keep them. Good luck!

Always2Slow

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A 224r on a 114 with ls6 heads 243 castings or 799 with an ls6 manifold will be an easy 400 rwhp. Talk to geoff at eps to see if the baby cam would pass emissons that's another way to get over 400

got milk??

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Just some thought all of the ported stock castings are going be legal. As of right now the only aftermarket that has a CARB cert is AFR(alread stated). Since you cannot do long tubes you may want to take the money that usually gets invested in those and put it towards AFRs to make reaching your goal easier. I know AFRs will get you a good amount of power over ported 243s not sure on the numbers with your setup because most of the time people have long tubes and get even higher gains from AFRs. Without the help of a huge camshaft and long tubes your goal is reachable but I wouldn't call it easy. Research all your parts before you buy especially camshafts. I would personally go with a grind that someone else has already passed the sniffer with. Anyone can tell you a certain camshaft will pass but unless its been tested its just there opinion. The good thing about a camshaft that will suit your needs is that it will be blower friendly if you want to add one later. Procharger and Vortech both offer kits that are CARB certed already. Good luck and keep us posted with what you decided to go with I for one am interested.
I saw from your first post, your fuel system is fine its overkill for your current setup but its fine. Your pump and Green Tops will give you a ton of room to grow if you want too. I am going to be pushing 450rwhp on stock 98 fuel pump and red tops. After my retune I will see if I need more pump but we shall see. You will be okay.

NORCALMUSCLE1

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afr's are way over kill for the price with a ls6 intake. stick to 243's or 5.3 heads de

224
a good ported stock head
underdrive pulley
cutouts before cats will be HUGE.
if we can install the cutouts before the cats we can make power easily homie.
If we do this i can see 420 rear wheel easy.

NVR_SPDS

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Cutouts before the cats using stock manifolds may be a problem. When I went back to stock manifolds and cats, there wasn't a whole lot of room in that area, also without a lenient smog shop, it would probably fail the visual and defeat the purpose of being smoggable.

408Maro

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Great responses guys thanks. I want to stay with a stock style head either my 241 or a 5.3 head honestly and want a smaller cam then a 224 and a 116-117 lsa. Plus I know its more better for long tubes to get thst goal but stock manifolds are what I need to use. I forsure will call a few sponsors and see what is suggested and how much I can get a cam for. As for 400 HP that's just a goal but close and I'm happy. Just want something with stock like idle and sound,low to mid power that'll shock those who think she's all stock and will pass the test. Thanks guys
John

garygnu

stock 5.3 won't flow as much as 241s or 243s.

408Maro

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I can take either the 241 or 5.3's to get worked on

NVR_SPDS

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In that case, a set of ported 5.3s, Custom cam, and as many bolt ons as you can get. Definitly keep us updated. Id like to see how it goes.

When i went smoggable, my setup consisted of: Lid, descreened MAF, ported TB, stock LS6 intake (01 WS.6), TSP 224R, Stock Manifolds/Cats, SLP Y-pipe, SLP LM1, Powerbond U/D, 4k stall, built 60e, 3.73s and dyno tune from Synergy. It made 350/352 with a good amount of slip through the stall, and passed smog with no issues at all.

408Maro

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Thanks I will keep a update. I will see about getting those 5.3 heads and after talking to a few places decide on a cam then see what work to do. As far as mods go will just be lid,cutout,pully,gears,and ported tb

408Maro

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also i currently have a 3" y pipe from pacesetter would it benefit me more to keep it or to just go with a stock since ill be using stock manifolds? thanks

Blk_Ws6

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Ok I have a mask sleeper too, I have a magna flow y pipe to some vette manifolds, ls6 block with ported heads, 80mm tb , Dynomax muller (super turbo) underdrive pulley ,180 amp alternator ,electric water pump ,tuned I have 407rwhp ,, if this help.

Forgot to add I get races all the time because people thinks I'm stock , plus its alot of fun when its like stock remind me of when I 1st got the car I loved the way it felt stock so I left it like that , an to so some of the guys in the hood that noise don't means SHYT........

Blk_Ws6

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Forgot to add Lpe cam its the gt2-3 I think ,this cam ls6 ported heads ,ls6 intake (with a good tb) an small goodies( Pulley,Good ypipe, muffler) you should get there that way too , this was the 1st choice I have....

But all the other guys make sense to but just another option for you.
My next set up will be a 427 buget buster block SCDparts ,220/220/ 568 568 118lsa cam with some good ported p heads and a ls6 intake hoping for 460whp.