TR224 Cam car with 100rwhp shot. Suggestions for improving braking performance?
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TR224 Cam car with 100rwhp shot. Suggestions for improving braking performance?
Car is mostly driven on street with many street racing conditions.
"Soon" ill have a 100 shot over my TR224 114 cam. Car should be making around 500rwhp by then.
I need better stopping/slowing down power. The stock brakes are warping now when trying to slow down at 50mph (cruising conditions). I could turn the rotors (spend a $100) but the stock brakes still wont be able to help me slow down at HIGH racing speeds conditions 125+mph. I need to play it safe here as I have no suspension upgrades on my 02 WS6 whatsoever.
1) What would be a fair amount to spend on brakes in my case?
2) What are the most important pieces to upgrade? (rotors? calipers? brake lines?)
3) Any suggestions on a particular brake package? (i would want the least amount of brake dust if possible).
4) my budget is still not determined. Im open to all suggestions.
Please help. My knowledge as far as braking performance is crap.
So far im considering upgrading my brakes with a set of Z06 brakes but i dont know if those would be good enough for my case.
Please help.
All responses are greatly appreciated.
"Soon" ill have a 100 shot over my TR224 114 cam. Car should be making around 500rwhp by then.
I need better stopping/slowing down power. The stock brakes are warping now when trying to slow down at 50mph (cruising conditions). I could turn the rotors (spend a $100) but the stock brakes still wont be able to help me slow down at HIGH racing speeds conditions 125+mph. I need to play it safe here as I have no suspension upgrades on my 02 WS6 whatsoever.
1) What would be a fair amount to spend on brakes in my case?
2) What are the most important pieces to upgrade? (rotors? calipers? brake lines?)
3) Any suggestions on a particular brake package? (i would want the least amount of brake dust if possible).
4) my budget is still not determined. Im open to all suggestions.
Please help. My knowledge as far as braking performance is crap.
So far im considering upgrading my brakes with a set of Z06 brakes but i dont know if those would be good enough for my case.
Please help.
All responses are greatly appreciated.
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hey trackbird thanks for the response. I checked out your website it looks neat.
how BAD is the brake dust and rotor wear? will the rotors last less than the stock rotors?
I was told to go with a set of Z06 or C5 calipers since they are 4piston calipers which are way better than the 2 piston stockers?
i was thinking maybe i should just go with brembo oem rotors and z06 calipers with a set of hawk brake pads?
any suggestions? or advice?
with the z06 calipers am i going to have better stopping power ? i dont want to go the cheapest route here as those brakes could really save my life. I just want to make sure i dont take the most expensive approach either as i dont think ill need that.
how BAD is the brake dust and rotor wear? will the rotors last less than the stock rotors?
I was told to go with a set of Z06 or C5 calipers since they are 4piston calipers which are way better than the 2 piston stockers?
i was thinking maybe i should just go with brembo oem rotors and z06 calipers with a set of hawk brake pads?
any suggestions? or advice?
with the z06 calipers am i going to have better stopping power ? i dont want to go the cheapest route here as those brakes could really save my life. I just want to make sure i dont take the most expensive approach either as i dont think ill need that.
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Good/sticky front tires would also make a difference in how well your brakes are going to work. Also, the Hawk HPS pads will have less brake dust then most of the other aftermarket pads. I have heard good things about the Autozone rotors also! That should be enough for highspeed slow downs.
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replace stock rotors with good aftermarket peices.....
replace stock rotors with good aftermarket peices, and change to a decent HiPerf Brake Pad.
The Hawk HPS are great, low dust and great improvements over stock.
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ps. no it's not a co-incidence... I own it
The Hawk HPS are great, low dust and great improvements over stock.
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ps. no it's not a co-incidence... I own it
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First, C5 calipers are 2 poston, just like your '98+ F-Body stock units.
Second, bigger brakes means more weight. I don't think you want that.
Third, you cannot have better stopping power without generating brake dust. It just doesn't work that way.
Fourth, an aggressive pad will wear rotors faster.
Fifth, you should take your racing to the track where failed brakes won't endanger anyone's life but your own
Second, bigger brakes means more weight. I don't think you want that.
Third, you cannot have better stopping power without generating brake dust. It just doesn't work that way.
Fourth, an aggressive pad will wear rotors faster.
Fifth, you should take your racing to the track where failed brakes won't endanger anyone's life but your own
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
First, C5 calipers are 2 poston, just like your '98+ F-Body stock units.
Second, bigger brakes means more weight. I don't think you want that.
Third, you cannot have better stopping power without generating brake dust. It just doesn't work that way.
Fourth, an aggressive pad will wear rotors faster.
Fifth, you should take your racing to the track where failed brakes won't endanger anyone's life but your own
Second, bigger brakes means more weight. I don't think you want that.
Third, you cannot have better stopping power without generating brake dust. It just doesn't work that way.
Fourth, an aggressive pad will wear rotors faster.
Fifth, you should take your racing to the track where failed brakes won't endanger anyone's life but your own
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Thanks for the responses.
Ok heres the deal.
Mitch, you are right. Z06 calipers are 2 piston calipers.
Here are some better questions:
1) Which brake pads provide better stopping performance: Hawk HPS pads or Z06 pads?
2) Are the rear Z06 rotors bigger/better than the rear fbody rotors?
3) Do brembo OEM Z06 replacement rotors provide better stopping power than Z06 rotors? Do those rotors last just as much as stock fbody rotors?
4) would a c5/z06 brake conversion/upgrade be more than enough for my needs? Does include Hawk HPS pads or Z06 brake pads? I just want to make sure that IF i have to slow down at 125mph those brakes will be great.
5) Would it make a difference in braking performance if I went with just 2 front Z06 calipers vs. 4 Z06 calipers?
6) if I decided to go with just 2 front Z06 calipers would my rear rotors wear out sooner because of unequal braking power or some weird unforeseen scenerio?
7) What do brake lines do? Should I change my brake lines during the conversion?
8) what would you go for if you were in my situation? Will this perform equal, better, or worse braking performance compared to a Z06?
Sorry for the many questions. Hope you guys could help before I do a dumb move on my braking equipment purchase.
TIA.
Ok heres the deal.
Mitch, you are right. Z06 calipers are 2 piston calipers.
Here are some better questions:
1) Which brake pads provide better stopping performance: Hawk HPS pads or Z06 pads?
2) Are the rear Z06 rotors bigger/better than the rear fbody rotors?
3) Do brembo OEM Z06 replacement rotors provide better stopping power than Z06 rotors? Do those rotors last just as much as stock fbody rotors?
4) would a c5/z06 brake conversion/upgrade be more than enough for my needs? Does include Hawk HPS pads or Z06 brake pads? I just want to make sure that IF i have to slow down at 125mph those brakes will be great.
5) Would it make a difference in braking performance if I went with just 2 front Z06 calipers vs. 4 Z06 calipers?
6) if I decided to go with just 2 front Z06 calipers would my rear rotors wear out sooner because of unequal braking power or some weird unforeseen scenerio?
7) What do brake lines do? Should I change my brake lines during the conversion?
8) what would you go for if you were in my situation? Will this perform equal, better, or worse braking performance compared to a Z06?
Sorry for the many questions. Hope you guys could help before I do a dumb move on my braking equipment purchase.
TIA.
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Originally Posted by 2002_TAWS6
8) what would you go for if you were in my situation? Will this perform equal, better, or worse braking performance compared to a Z06?
TIA.
TIA.
I would replace the rotors and pads with OEM and take my racing to the track where there is planty of run out room so that I didn't have to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting that SUV with mom and the kids inside.
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For 1/4 mile racing at thetrack your stock system is more than enough , Just changeto a more aggressive pad like track bird recommends. it save you some money .
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
What would I do if I were in your situation?
I would replace the rotors and pads with OEM and take my racing to the track where there is planty of run out room so that I didn't have to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting that SUV with mom and the kids inside.
I would replace the rotors and pads with OEM and take my racing to the track where there is planty of run out room so that I didn't have to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting that SUV with mom and the kids inside.
Mitch,
I'm slipping, I didn't catch the "street racing" part....
Damn.....
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Dope, what did you change exactly? What kind of better front tires are we talking about? will the stock F1 good years 275/40ZR17s in the front be not good enough?
roy, I would want a setup for 1/4 and high speed runs.
Any more responses?
roy, I would want a setup for 1/4 and high speed runs.
Any more responses?