General LSX Automobile Discussion - Should I buy a C6, 2010 Camaro SS, or 335i

I'm looking to buy a new car in hte near future. My big problem is I'm torn between a 2005-07 C6, a 2007-08 BMW 335i, or the new Camaro SS. I've had a 2002 Z06, and loved it!!!! I'd like to get a C6 Z in a couple years whenI can afford one without breaking the bank, which is why I'm hesitant to get a C6. The C5 and C6 are very different, but very similar in regards to how everything feels sitting in the car, and driving it around. What I mean is a C5 and C6 are a lot more similar then a C5 and a BMW 335i, if that makes sense. So I was thinking I'd change it up a bit with a BMW or the new SS.

The reason I sold the C5was becuase it was my daily driver and after driving it for almost 2 years, it got to be a pain to drive around town. Always having to worry about bottoming out in drive ways, parking lots, speed bumps, etc... Also, it was too low to use any kind of security gate or drive up ATM that used a key pad. Another thing that wore on me was the lack of cargo space, it made picking anyone up from or taking to the airport a hassle. At the time I didn't have a garage, so it would annoy me when I would wash it and the next day or two later it would be filthy looking, I'm a bit OCD when it comes to dirt and water spots. All of these things are not that big of a deal, but after that amount of time I just wanted to drive something else, so I got an SUV. Basically because I don't bottom out anywhere, have cargo space, and could care less how dirty it gets.

Now I can't stand having an SUV. I can't seem to decide between the 3 cars I listed though. The SS would be most expensive, but comes with the warranty which is nice because I am not a mechanically inclined individual. All the 335’s I’ve seen are going to have like 30-40k miles on them and cost between 26k and 29k. The Camaro’s are obviously brand new or slightly used so they have like 0-10k miles on them and they are all 29-33k. I've seen 2 different C6 vettes near me, they are both 2005 A4, one is a convertible with nav and 31k miles for 29k and the other has 13k miles, yes 13k miles for 29,900. I've seen the C6's go for between 26-29k with 35k miles or less though.

Another thing I should mention is I do not have a place to wash my car. I live in an apartment complex with a parking garage. Which is actually kind of nice because it does help keep the car cleaner then it would parked on the street or in a driveway. I bring that up because I would have to take it somewhere to be washed, and I don't believe you can put a vette through an automatic car wash, which I would HATE to do, but would have to do that or have it hand washed all the time, which can be pricey if I'm not doing it and considering how OCD I am about my cars being clean.

Ok with all that said I really respect the opinions of my fellow forum members and would like to hear what you all think. Thanks in advance as this thread will hopefully help me come to a decision on what to buy.

C6 is you don't need the storage space, 335ix if you do.

I like your comments. Since my TA is on sale and no luck so I have been thought trade my TA for 2010 SS M6 or swap new Ls motor/auto and new paint on my TA. Been:bang::confused::bang::bang::confused:
Curious, what is those guys response on your post..

I'm looking to buy a new car in hte near future. My big problem is I'm torn between a 2005-07 C6, a 2007-08 BMW 335i, or the new Camaro SS. I've had a 2002 Z06, and loved it!!!! I'd like to get a C6 Z in a couple years whenI can afford one without breaking the bank, which is why I'm hesitant to get a C6. The C5 and C6 are very different, but very similar in regards to how everything feels sitting in the car, and driving it around. What I mean is a C5 and C6 are a lot more similar then a C5 and a BMW 335i, if that makes sense. So I was thinking I'd change it up a bit with a BMW or the new SS. The reason I sold the C5was becuase it was my daily driver and after driving it for almost 2 years, it got to be a pain to drive around town. Always having to worry about bottoming out in drive ways, parking lots, speed bumps, etc... Also, it was too low to use any kind of security gate or drive up ATM that used a key pad. Another thing that wore on me was the lack of cargo space, it made picking anyone up from or taking to the airport a hassle. At the time I didn't have a garage, so it would annoy me when I would wash it and the next day or two later it would be filthy looking, I'm a bit OCD when it comes to dirt and water spots. All of these things are not that big of a deal, but after that amount of time I just wanted to drive something else, so I got an SUV. Basically becuase I don't bottom out anywhere, have cargo space, and could care less how dirty it gets. Now I can't stand having an SUV. I can't seem to decide between the 3 cars I listed though. The SS would be most expensive, but comes with the warranty which is nice because I am not a mechanically inclined individual. All the 335’s I’ve seen are going to have like 30-40k miles on them and cost between 26k and 29k. The Camaro’s are obviously brand new or slightly used so they have like 0-10k miles on them and they are all 29-33k. I've seen 2 different C6 vettes near me, they are both 2005 A4, one is a convertible with nav and 31k miles for 29k and the other has 13k miles, yes 13k miles for 29,900. I've seen the C6's go for between 26-29k wiht 35k miles or less though. Another thing I should mention is I do not have a place to wash my car. I live in an apartment complex with a parking garage. Which is actually kind of nice because it does help keep the car cleaner then it would sitting on the street or in a driveway. I bring that up becasue I would have to take it somewhere to be washed, and I don't believe you can put a vette through an automatic car wash, which I would HATE to do, but would have to do that or have it hand washed all the time, which can be pricey if I'm not doing it and considering how OCD I am about my cars being clean. Ok with all that said, I really respect the opinions of my fellow forum members and would like to hear what you all think. Thanks in advance as this thread will hopefully help me come to a decision on what to buy.

If youve had a c5 z06 i would not buy a regular c6 (maybe an 08 up ls3 car) but then again there goes your budget...I cant believe im actually saying this but if i were you i would pick out a 2010 camaro:emb: The prices are almost where they should be since the newness has worn off...Maybe you can pick up a nice 2ss with a few miles on it for under 30k...ONLY UNDER 30K!!! Positives you would be getting an almost brand new car with an ls3(pending m6 or auto) and you would be getting something different...Just my opinion......

Since I don't feel like reading that giant block of text I'm just going to say a C6. You can find LS3s for cheap used. Paragraphs are your friend by the way. ;)

My mistake on the paragraphs, I changed it now.

I would look for a c6 08 on up the ls3 is a much better platform not too much more money and with bolt ons would be in the range of a stock z06 for power. btw all c6's are a6 not a4

C6 all the way

Considering your annoyances with the C5, I recommend the BMW. You won't have the power or handling of the C6, but it will be much more user friendly around town - get it in silver and the dust/water spots are that much easier to keep clean.

Don't get me wrong, the C6 is a great car, but won't have the room and ease of use that the 335 has. The 2010 Camaro is a nice car too. In the end, each decision is a winner in my books - just suggested the 335 for practicality and nothing else.

btw all c6's are a6 not a4

05 C6's carried over the A4 from the C5 years. 06+ all got the A6. Couldn't tell you why.

OP: it seems like you're looking for something a little more drivable. Out of your three options I'd say find a low-mile 335i. Very few cars on the road look better than a 335i Coupe. The sedans look nice too and would make for a nice sleeper, if you're looking to mod. But that's just my $0.02, take it for what its worth.

Ls3 c6!!!

Since I don't feel like reading that giant block of text I'm just going to say a C6. You can find LS3s for cheap used. Paragraphs are your friend by the way. ;)

LS3 C6 cheap used? :jest::lol::lol: I would say for most people theyre not cheap at all.

LS3 C6 cheap used? :jest::lol::lol: I would say for most people theyre not cheap at all.

Well, "cheap" meaning cheaper than NEW. :lol: I've seen them around his price range.

335i
because if i bought a C6 money would dump into that car like my T/A...

oh, and i hate the 2010 Camaros.

I don't understand why you're considering another vette', when you mentioned worrying about bottoming out and lack of cargo space. And if cargo space is a big need, the BMW would be the best choice.

id say not the bmw. as long as you are comparing 2 muscles that means you want one! since the camaro is heavy and becoming everybody's car id say go with the vette! you cant go wrong with a vette. good luck.

You werent a fan of DDing your C5, so I'd eliminate the C6.

If it were me, I'd go with the 2010 SS. Its new (has a warranty), powerful, and gets decent gas milage.

If you have a family to cart around, BMW. Just watch out for repair bills.

dude get the c6 ls3 08-10 I did. Much better car. There is no comparrison between an h/c ls1 and ls3. It just takes a few bolt ons to get 450 rwhp on a 3200 lb car.

I personally would never consider purchasing a 2010 Camaro. I would much rather spend a little more and get a 08-11 ls3 vette over a camaro. however, a lot of times you can pick up an older c6z for around the same price as a ls3 vette. Either way i would just wait and save for a c6z

At the end of the day your a hot rod guy and the bmw isn't a hot rod. With that being said it really makes sense to buy the camaro for the simple fact that you will get the performance of the vette (almost) and it's way more practical than a corvette.

How bouts a 5.0? It's similar to the Camaro and apparently handles like a BMW. It is also nicely priced brand new. (Some have gotten them below $30k)

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I've had a 00 C5 Coupe, 04 Z06, an 06 3series and rented innumerable 08 ZHZ LS3 powered Vettes. C6 LS3's are the way to go. Much easier to live with day to day vs. the Z06. Hatch provides significantly more cargo room. Conversely, the A6 in the C6 is terrible. It's never in the right gear for any sort of spirited driving. The 3 was way more comfortable, and the trans was much more responsive. I've only been a passenger in a 335, but they seemed pretty similar. If it were me, and my money, 08+ LS3 Vette.

C6 if it was me.


but if you want something with more room and descent power id get a new SS.

C6 if it was me.


but if you want something with more room and descent power id get a new SS.

More room? Where? If you're considering the back seats, that's a joke.

I know I'll get some hate for this, but oh well Challanger R/T, plenty of room.

The 335i is going to handle almost as good as your c5 but it will NOT have the same thrill and you 'd regret your decision very soon.

Any of the new muscle cars will have more room than the c5 but not a whole lot.
Have you looked into Trail Blazer SS or srt8 GC? They have the power to keep you entertained.

I'm in the same boat as you, I want to get a c6 but dd that car in my area would be a nightmare. So I'm gonna be picking up a cheap subaru for dd and winters.

335i and leave it alone

Get the 335i chip, exhaust, intake and it will keep up with a C6

More room? Where? If you're considering the back seats, that's a joke.


at least it has back seats. i think theyre fine. also more trunk space.

I own a 2010 335i sedan w/ an auto and I have a love/hate relationship with it.
My good friend has a 2008 335i coupe w/ a manual, he likes his better than I do mine, but he just ordered a 2011 Mustang (5.0 w/ manual) and is trading the 335 for it.

I also own a 2001 TA, which I love unconditionally (first car I bought new). The same friend as above owns a 2002 TA, which he thoroughly enjoys. We both believe that the TA is a much better performance vehicle.

Short answer:
Don't get the bimmer. I know that I'll never buy one again (neither will my friend, partly due to my my experience).

Long answer:
For every day driving, which is about 99% of what I do (I drive ~50k mi/yr), the BMW is great (except for auto and all the problems it has). The rear seats are reasonably comfortable (note: fold down seats are an option, not standard, at least on the sedan).

As for handling, with the traction control on, the car is pretty good. Turn it off completely, and you will drift, but it just doesn't feel right. Personally, I don't like the balance of the car in performance driving. BMW has tuned it to understeer. If the front tires were closer in width to the rears, it would be quite a bit better (I think you can "fit" 265s up front, though...). Also, it does not have an LSD (~1k). With the auto, it is difficult to drive hard because of the weird throttle response, but the manual doesn't do that.

The auto has an inconsistent throttle response and boost builds differently every time, but the manual does not have these problems. Stock power is OK, but it needs lots more torque. A good piggyback will run you ~$1k, but with an exhaust (~$1700, downpipes are another $700), you'll get > 425 hp and > 425 lb-ft. An intercooler (~1k, and another 15+ hp) and upgraded radiator and oil cooler (~1k) would be good for reliability.

I have had absolutely nothing but problems with trying to get BMW to fix anything under warranty. I went to the dealer to tell them I had a slight misfire and they said "If it does not throw a code, there is not a problem." Three weeks later I had severe pre-detonation for ~20 sec before the check engine light came on. Why did I drive it that long? Because I wanted to see if the engine would blow up before the light came on (sadly, it didn't). Their "solution," rotate the injectors and coil packs. I still have lots of throttle/ignition issue that they refuse to fix.
My friend has had very few problems.
Also note that BMW is designing their vehicles to have a 3-5 yr lifespan.
Might want to read this, too:
http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/1556/consumer-reports-most-reliable-cars/

I apologize for the absurdly long post, but I hope that I have provided you with enough info to make a more informed decision about the 335.

Ever consider a CTS-V? The C6 doesn't have cargo space, the Camaro doesn't have much more, the backseat is useless if you're taller than 3' 9", and the maintenance and repairs onthe Bimmer will be expensive. CTS-V is basically a 4 door Vette, and useful cargo space. Just my .02

I'd go with the Camaro SS. It's between the C6 and the BMW. You still get LS3 or L99 power, but with 4 seats. You'll have more storage space than a C6, and more muscle than the BMW.

Test drive the new 5.0...

ya ill chime in again and say go drive the 5.0 they handle amazing (esp the 12 boss 302) and they are very quick cars with bolt ons theyre making 420 to the wheels in a 36xx-37xx car so theyre still light compared to the other new muscle cars.

CTSV. Done deal. Everything you want, and its a Cadillac.

Out of the three choices you gave, if you dont need a "backseat" the C6 without a doubt!

5.0 if you wanna drive the ugliest sports car on the planet.

You werent a fan of DDing your C5, so I'd eliminate the C6.

If it were me, I'd go with the 2010 SS. Its new (has a warranty), powerful, and gets decent gas milage.

If you have a family to cart around, BMW. Just watch out for repair bills.

I agree with this, especially if you can't do BMW repairs on your own. Very pricey to repair. I own one so I know the details (great cars though!). With money somewhat of an issue for you it would be nice to have that warranty and enjoy the new SS completely without worries. Good luck with your choice. IMO you narrowed it down to 3 excellent cars.

If youve had a c5 z06 i would not buy a regular c6 (maybe an 08 up ls3 car) but then again there goes your budget...I cant believe im actually saying this but if i were you i would pick out a 2010 camaro:emb: The prices are almost where they should be since the newness has worn off...Maybe you can pick up a nice 2ss with a few miles on it for under 30k...ONLY UNDER 30K!!! Positives you would be getting an almost brand new car with an ls3(pending m6 or auto) and you would be getting something different...Just my opinion......

After reading all of these responses i have changed my mind...Fuck it...GET THE C6:chug:

C6 and done.

Ls3 c6!!!

Your sig is amazing. When I was deciding whether or not I was gonna try and find a clean M6 fbody or get an A4, the idea that road dome would be almost impossible with an M6 greatly factored into my decision. Guess what I bought..


To the OP: I know it's been said but dude.. CTS-V. I've never personally drove when but I know when I graduate school that's the first car I'll be looking to get. It's a caddy, can be daily driven all the time any time, and it's gotta big ass Corvette V8 under the hood. Basically the perfect car if you ask me and they can be had used for around 20k if you find a sick deal.

Your sig is amazing. When I was deciding whether or not I was gonna try and find a clean M6 fbody or get an A4, the idea that road dome would be almost impossible with an M6 greatly factored into my decision. Guess what I bought..


To the OP: I know it's been said but dude.. CTS-V. I've never personally drove when but I know when I graduate school that's the first car I'll be looking to get. It's a caddy, can be daily driven all the time any time, and it's gotta big ass Corvette V8 under the hood. Basically the perfect car if you ask me and they can be had used for around 20k if you find a sick deal.

Dont forget the blower:pimp:

Your sig is amazing. When I was deciding whether or not I was gonna try and find a clean M6 fbody or get an A4, the idea that road dome would be almost impossible with an M6 greatly factored into my decision. Guess what I bought..


To the OP: I know it's been said but dude.. CTS-V. I've never personally drove when but I know when I graduate school that's the first car I'll be looking to get. It's a caddy, can be daily driven all the time any time, and it's gotta big ass Corvette V8 under the hood. Basically the perfect car if you ask me and they can be had used for around 20k if you find a sick deal.

That's funny, a Corvette V8.

My buddy raced my high 13 second LT1 against his 08 335i after he did a bit of boost work and had waste gates installed and exhaust... He lost by about 1.5 cars against me to about 115mph.

If you want fast, vette all the way b/c the camaro is not going to be a whole lot faster than the 335i.

That's funny, a Corvette V8.

You're right, it's not like there was an LS6, then an LS2, then an LS9 in the CTS-V all of which were in the 'Vette. It's not even like the Vette was the first car with each of those engines in it. Good pickup there on the joke :eyes:

Dont forget the blower:pimp:

Well played sir.

Cts-v ftw!

what is your "near future" timeframe? if you're willing to wait a little, why not get a 2012 Z28 :D

another Vote for the C6 but don't since you didn't like the C5 :D got 2010 Camaro SS if you like ease of doing your own repairs and nice warranty. One downside is they have blindspots(worse then the BMW i'm guessing) but they are alot easier to DD

Another vote for the CTS-V. I'm not a fan of the new Camaro (funky IP, bunker windows, smallish trunk, blah, blah, blah) and for $30k, I'd take a used CTS-V instead IF room is an important consideration. Otherwise, I'd get the Vette.

You said you had issues with the c5 so why get a c6? If you don't plan on tinkering much with your car and you want to keep it relatively stock, BMW is hard to beat out of the box. I've driven a 325 and a 535 and they feel very agile and sporty, and with AWD they offer a ton of grip on the street (I've never taken one to the limit on a track, but there are some twisties in my area that I've blasted down).
Also, as NW-99SS stated, silver is much easier to keep clean. I work at a performance car dealership detailing cars & we use a product called Wizards Mist 'N Shine. If you can find a shop by you that sells it (you cant buy their products directly) it's the best product I've ever seen. Got water spots?, just spray, apply with microfiber, shine with dry micro fiber. You can do paint, glass, chrome, I've even polished interior carbon fiber panels on neglected Ferraris to new condition with this stuff. Good luck with your decision, you can't go wrong with any of those 3 cars.

you said you had issues with the c5 so why get a c6? If you don't plan on tinkering much with your car and you want to keep it relatively stock, bmw is hard to beat out of the box. I've driven a 325 and a 535 and they feel very agile and sporty, and with awd they offer a ton of grip on the street (i've never taken one to the limit on a track, but there are some twisties in my area that i've blasted down).
Also, as nw-99ss stated, silver is much easier to keep clean. I work at a performance car dealership detailing cars & we use a product called wizards mist 'n shine. If you can find a shop by you that sells it (you cant buy their products directly) it's the best product i've ever seen. Got water spots?, just spray, apply with microfiber, shine with dry micro fiber. You can do paint, glass, chrome, i've even polished interior carbon fiber panels on neglected ferraris to new condition with this stuff. Good luck with your decision, you can't go wrong with any of those 3 cars.

what shop?

I would look for a c6 08 on up the ls3 is a much better platform not too much more money and with bolt ons would be in the range of a stock z06 for power. btw all c6's are a6 not a4

I'm pretty sure in 2005 the C6 auto was an A4.

Hold out for a C6 Z06.

C6s are REALLY good deal right now.

You're right, it's not like there was an LS6, then an LS2, then an LS9 in the CTS-V all of which were in the 'Vette. It's not even like the Vette was the first car with each of those engines in it. Good pickup there on the joke :eyes:

wrong. the ctsv started life with a ls6, then ls2, then the LSA which is vastly different than the ls9