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Old 12-11-2010, 12:00 PM
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Default Completed LSX Monte Carlo Swap

Well guys I finally finished my 6.0 swap. Details are

-Stock LQ4 shortblock, Cadilac CTS oilpan
-Stock 317 heads milled .020, with new style 918 valve springs
-Comp Cams 222/232 .595/.575 lift 114LSA
-Victor Jr, with Speed Demon 750
-Camaro Pacesetter 1 3/4 offroad headers, 2 1/2 exhaust thru Flowmaster super
44 muflers.
-TH-350 with 10 inch Atlantic Coast Converter
-Grand National 8.5 rearend, Eaton Unit with 3.73 Gears

I will post beter Pics when then weather breaks.




Here is a video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo_fI-5q4D4

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Nice looking car and swap, I've always had a soft spot for Monte's. I have a friend looking for one as I type for the same swap.

I have to ask... why a carb?
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Originally Posted by gofastwclass
I have a friend looking for one as I type for the same swap.
How far is he willing to drive? I think I can find a couple of SS's around here.
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I have to ask... why a carb?
U are the 100th person to ask that. I went the carb route because it was easier and cheaper. Eventualy I want, to go injected but I have alot to learn as far as EFI wiring and tunning.
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very nice. Clean build.
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Originally Posted by kmw0481
U are the 100th person to ask that. I went the carb route because it was easier and cheaper. Eventualy I want, to go injected but I have alot to learn as far as EFI wiring and tunning.
I'm laughing about the easier and cheaper comment. That's funny I went EFI for the same reason! I got all the EFI stuff with my first Gen III and found it was going to cost me additional $ to go carb and limited my hood clearance. Besides I like a challenge so I did all the wiring myself which is much easier than it sounds, but I used to do car audio in the 90's when it was hard to be loud. From the tuning angle, I bought HP Tuners (EFI Live is just as good) and worked some magic on my own with a wideband. I'm not a tuner but there are lots of posts with some good info on how to tune your car and the techniques work.

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How far is he willing to drive? I think I can find a couple of SS's around here.
It doesn't have to be an SS car, he just wants an 80's Monte. If the car was for me and it was my money, distance and time wouldn't matter but it's my friend's 18 year old son with his own money. Frankly he doesn't have the resources to travel a couple hundred miles and look at a car - decide if it is a good deal, pass if it isn't or drag it home no matter what condition (running or not) if the body is solid and the price is fair. Part two is mom doesn't want a dead car in her driveway so he has to get one that runs well enough to drive until we do the swap in my shop.

Thanks for the offer and if that changes I'll hit you with a PM.
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Originally Posted by gofastwclass
I'm laughing about the easier and cheaper comment. That's funny I went EFI for the same reason! I got all the EFI stuff with my first Gen III and found it was going to cost me additional $ to go carb and limited my hood clearance. Besides I like a challenge so I did all the wiring myself which is much easier than it sounds, but I used to do car audio in the 90's when it was hard to be loud. From the tuning angle, I bought HP Tuners (EFI Live is just as good) and worked some magic on my own with a wideband. I'm not a tuner but there are lots of posts with some good info on how to tune your car and the techniques work.
When I purchased the motor it came complete, minus the harness. When I started gathering parts, it seemed like everybody wanted top dollar for a complete ls6 intake. Not to mention buying and modifing the harness. I have always messed with hot rods, so the carb was already on the shelf. Plus I intended to spray this combo, and it is easier to tune a nitrous carbed combo, than nitrous EFI.
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Youre gonna like driving it with ls power!
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did you have to have your pistons flycut?
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No fly cutting on the pistons. The car runs and sounds good, but If I had my time back I probaly would not of choose this cam. I bought a cam, valvesprings, and pushrods as apackage deal from a member here on ls1tech, because it was cheap. At the time I didn't know anything about LS motors. I would go tighter on the LSA and more lift and duration. I think with the stock LQ4 you can run up to a .650 lift cam without piston-valve clearance.
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Sweet ride! A buddy of mine did this exact swap back in 2005 and it turned out awsome.
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have you had it dynoed? what about track times? i have a 89 fox with a stock 6.0 and built th350 with 3.73s in the rear that i want a nice sounding cam that pulls good. from your driving experience with it in the monty, do u think it will pull good in the fox?
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No dyno figures, I'm guessing 400-450 at the crank. I haven't took it to the track yet. A cold winter has set in on NC, so it will be spring before I get an ET slip. I just finished the car a few weeks ago. I've drove the car maybe 5 miles. From a dead stand still it shreds the tires instantly. If you are crusing along in low gear, and stomp if it dosen't brake the tires loose it pulls like a bat outa hell. My car is heavy also. Fox bodys are lighter so I'd imagine it would would pull good.
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Thanks. You gave me a lot more to go on as far as cam choices and not having to flycut pistons. i think i will be getting this cam in the spring. i will ride stock for now til i can get cam and springs.
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Nice swap!!
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nice g-body did you use an x-pipe the exhuast sounds great which controller did you use the msd one or the edelbrock
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My budy at ALL Pro Exhaust and Performance did the exhaust. I'm a little disapponted because he did not install a h pipe. Maybe he can do this spring. It still sounds good though. I'm running the MSD 6ls box with chip #1. When the weather breaks I'm gonna play around with the programable timing, and see what the car likes.
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I just done a swap on a 1987 LS monte carlo....It has been completed over the last couple years. I am getting ready to post a thread about it as Im posting this.

It looks like you have a very nice car, and im sure it runs and rides as nice as it looks!!!



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