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Old 01-04-2011, 08:09 AM
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it sure is good to hear of another turd getting handled buy a victim. http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=7877690
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To bad he just wounded him and missed the other 2. He probably will end up getting sued.
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Originally Posted by rabiddog
To bad he just wounded him and missed the other 2. He probably will end up getting sued.
The Castle Law grants him civil immunity.
Old 01-04-2011, 10:25 AM
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that's as long as you don't shoot the bastards in the back!
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Not true in Texas. Even if he shot them in the back, as long as he is found to have been lawful in his use of deadly force, he is immune from civil lawsuit.
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Don't mess with the Houston folk these days. After all the crime in the past it is about time the criminals get street justice back on them.
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Bastards are lucky it wasnt the right person with the weapon, 3 shots 3 kills would have been really interesting to see, or at least 3 discharges and 3 hits.
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left the red mustang with graphics on the doors in the street so they can look up the plates or have someone identify the car.

Originally Posted by ProStreet_632
Don't mess with the Houston folk these days. After all the crime in the past it is about time the criminals get street justice back on them.
its because when things like this happen no one sees anything and if they do no one seems to care or want to help. that saying "you got to take matter in your own hand"
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"When seconds matter the police are only minutes away!"

Too bad he wasn't a better shot.
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Good for the home owner Glad his family is safe....


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Originally Posted by ysb02
"When seconds matter the police are only minutes away!"

Too bad he wasn't a better shot.
He got the point across lol

Don't Fu@k with him...
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Originally Posted by TXMaro
Not true in Texas. Even if he shot them in the back, as long as he is found to have been lawful in his use of deadly force, he is immune from civil lawsuit.
guess your right i did some research ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O6OU...yer_detailpage
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"it was his choice to go outside and his choice to take 2 lives"

Damn straight it was his choice. and a good one. it was also the choice of those 2 ILLEGAL guys to go into someone else's house and take what someone worked hard for. if they weren't in this country this would NEVER would of happened. they broke the law as soon as they came here and obviously had no intent to better them self's.


im moving to texas!
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Joe Horn FTW
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Originally Posted by kennyxg
guess your right i did some research ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O6OU...yer_detailpage
2 illegal immigrants...huh
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I'm all for Joe Horns Actions, he just made the mistaken of calling 911 first and using the wrong words with the 911 operater.... He has spent all kinds of $$ in legeal fees and now has to come out of retirement to be able to afford to defend himself in the Civil suites....


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Originally Posted by Strini SS
I'm all for Joe Horns Actions, he just made the mistaken of calling 911 first and using the wrong words with the 911 operater.... He has spent all kinds of $$ in legeal fees and now has to come out of retirement to be able to afford to defend himself in the Civil suites....


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i guess it is hard to charge someone with murder who is trying to defend themselves and or their property, or in protection of a third person. but the castle doctrine seems to be an affirmative defense against civil liability but not a complete guarantee...
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Originally Posted by rabiddog
To bad he just wounded him and missed the other 2. He probably will end up getting sued.
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yup your right he will. He will end up wasting a ton of money defending himself. Sucks how the legal system works.

Originally Posted by TXMaro
The Castle Law grants him civil immunity.
Yup it does, but they can still try and sue him and he will have to defend him and waste tons of money in court, like I said above, sucks how the legal system works these days.
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In addition to providing a valid defense in criminal law, many versions of the Castle Doctrine, particularly those with a "Stand-Your-Ground clause", also have a clause which provides immunity from any lawsuit filed on behalf of the assailant for damages/injury resulting from the use of lethal force. Without this clause, it is possible for an assailant to sue for medical bills, property damage, disability, and pain and suffering as a result of the injuries inflicted by the defender, or for their next-of-kin to sue for wrongful death in the case of a fatality. Even if successfully refuted, the defendant (the homeowner/defender) must often pay thousands of dollars in legal costs as a result of such lawsuits, and thus without immunity, such civil action could be used for revenge against a defender acting lawfully.

The only exceptions to this civil immunity are generally situations of excessive force, where the defender used deadly force on a subdued, cooperative, or disabled assailant. A situation meeting this exception generally invalidates the criminal "castle defense" as well. In addition, someone who uses deadly force in self-defense is still liable for any damages or injuries to third parties who were not acting criminally at the time of the defensive action
I'm not 100% on this, but from what I understand, if he is in fact justified in the use of deadly force, then a civil lawsuit is not even allowed to be filed against him. In Texas anyway, because our doctrine does have the Stand-Your-Ground clause.
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The problem with that video / situation is the fact that it was another persons home/property and not his own. I understand why he did it but there are always differnt points of view and opinions. Whats stupid is they where "illegals". If he didnt want to face any legal trouble he should have fired in one shot in the air and im sure they would have dissapeared if they werent armed, the fact that he fired more than one shot and was still on the phone is what made it a contreversy.

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