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BigBirdLS1
01-04-2011, 11:05 AM
Ok so my car is in sig. About six months ago I had a cam install/tune at a local performance shop. I was happy with the job and the #'s that it put down but it just felt just as fast as it was to me honestly. I played a lil w/ my car and I got to "think" that yeah it picked up some power. Fast forward to last Sat. I was driving the camaro like I never do and low and behold a 03-04 stang gt pulls next to me and revs we chat for a minute then decide to get some runs in. We only got 1 run in but it was a 50 roll to the top of my 3rd gear I let out at 95ish. I honk it off and give him the hit I see his cars nose raise up and I hammer it all I see is a blur in my side view I look behind me and had to a good 7-8 lengths behind me. He pulls up beside me yells that car is fu**ing fast thumbs up I give a thumbs up and we go seperate ways. Pretty cool run with a cool guy. I have similiar raced mustangs several times with results of 3-4 legths when I was bolt ons only but holy crap this cam made a HUGE difference and I couldn't be happier. Have you cam only guys experienced similiar results?


sujomatt
01-04-2011, 12:59 PM
... any specs on the cam??

GREAT kill!

BigBirdLS1
01-04-2011, 01:27 PM
... any specs on the cam??

GREAT kill!

Yeah the cam is the 224R 112 LSA from texas speed. And I know that it was a puppy kicking but he was real cool about it and it let me see first hand how much difference a cam makes. Its even on a nitrous tune.


WSsick
01-04-2011, 01:30 PM
Pretty good numbers for a 224R. Good combo. Untouched heads? How do you like the 3.90s?

BigBirdLS1
01-04-2011, 01:38 PM
Pretty good numbers for a 224R. Good combo. Untouched heads? How do you like the 3.90s?

Thanks I was for sure surprised on the #'s too. Yeah they are stock untouched heads. All I can figure is the 25% UD pulley helped me out and it probably don't matter but my car made more power on a 11.4 N/A afr than it did leaned out I have the same afr on nitrous too. My tuner said this is the 1st LS motor he has ever seen do that. Guess mine is special

d98gt
01-04-2011, 02:39 PM
Good numbers and congrats on the kill

BigBirdLS1
01-04-2011, 03:03 PM
I forgot to mention that I LOVE the 3.90's they are a definite sotp mod it also helped my et in the 1/8th by .2 that's when I was only bolt ons and I had the same piss poor 1.9 60ft. Thanks for the compliments guys and I'm hoping to get it to the track for that 7.9 pass n/a I've been hunting.

93sspcoupe
01-04-2011, 03:26 PM
I forgot to mention that I LOVE the 3.90's they are a definite sotp mod it also helped my et in the 1/8th by .2 that's when I was only bolt ons and I had the same piss poor 1.9 60ft. Thanks for the compliments guys and I'm hoping to get it to the track for that 7.9 pass n/a I've been hunting.

what was your et and mph when you was boltons? also any bolt on dyno numbers? good kill btw

m_liel
01-04-2011, 04:13 PM
Wow nice kill op and those are some awesome numbers for a such a small cam. My old Z28 with a 224 (114*) from Thunder Racing made 385 on stock untouched 241's through a 6-spd. Passed emissions too.

xRelapse13
01-04-2011, 04:28 PM
great kill, and i felt exactly like you after installing my cam and going from 350whp - 396whp. Felt a bit quicker but nothing that suggested an almost 50whp gain. Raced a full bolt on t/a one night and absolutely blew him away and realized how much quicker the car had become.

BigBirdLS1
01-04-2011, 05:01 PM
what was your et and mph when you was boltons? also any bolt on dyno numbers? good kill btw


I made three passes all in the same day when I was boltons and gears. I was also still on the stock tune. The best et was an 8.37 at 84.xxmph with a 60' of 1.9x. The other 2 were 8.4's. I was on a 255/50/16 BFG drag radial. When I got it dynoed with no tune on a local dyno day it made 340 rwhp 350 rwtq. Needless to say I have been very happy with how my car performs.

Sticks n Stones
01-04-2011, 05:23 PM
I hear ya on not feeling "that much" faster. Hell, when I did my heads/cam/ported intake my car didnt feel nearly 100rwhp faster either. Luckily I had a guy lined up to race me that I was pretty much dead even with before in a full bolton LS1 Z28 on 555R drag radials. Was this like what you did to the Stang? (best race is at :38)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrcXryBRarY

BigBirdLS1
01-04-2011, 05:33 PM
Yeah I would say it was something like that but I was at a 50 roll in 3rd gear at ~4000rpm it was instantly haulin' balls as soon as I dropped the hammer. The sad part of it is now that I saw what I did to the stang I am wanting to throw me a set of heads on there for MORE POWER arrharrhahhhrrraahh (sorry Tim Allen got to me) LOL. Btw you got one sick GTO

bestlude
01-04-2011, 05:42 PM
Dang man thats awesome... wish i had those mods.. i raced an 05 stang on bolt ons with my factoy camaro.. I would post the story on here but im a "newbie" and would look like a doosh .. anyways thats good stuff!!

assasinator
01-04-2011, 05:51 PM
good kill OP. cammed only ls cars are what i want to run into. depending on weight it should be some close runs. fbods will be quicker i expect. less weight = win.

BigBirdLS1
01-04-2011, 05:51 PM
Dang man thats awesome... wish i had those mods.. i raced an 05 stang on bolt ons with my factoy camaro.. I would post the story on here but im a "newbie" and would look like a doosh .. anyways thats good stuff!!



If you are worried about being a douche don't be. If you have a kill or even a loss go ahead and post it up I and many others on here enjoy reading kill stories win or lose. Just give alot of details and write like you would an e-mail to a best friend or something like that. Just make sure what you type is backed up my fact and not nonsense like we have seen on here before because we will not hesitate to call anyone out on it.

bestlude
01-04-2011, 05:57 PM
If you are worried about being a douche don't be. If you have a kill or even a loss go ahead and post it up I and many others on here enjoy reading kill stories win or lose. Just give alot of details and write like you would an e-mail to a best friend or something like that. Just make sure what you type is backed up my fact and not nonsense like we have seen on here before because we will not hesitate to call anyone out on it.

Alright man, im just not used to the community here quite yet you know what i mean?
Thanks though, It was a close race but Ill post it up soon

Killemall
01-04-2011, 10:36 PM
The 224 is a nice lil improvement bro...

my stock ls1 2.73 geared c5 (299 rwhp)=101-104 mph trapps
my stock ls6 heads and ls6 cam C5 (335 rwhp)=103-106 mph trapps
stock ls6 heads and cam and exhasut/intake (345 rwhp) 104-107 mph trapps
224/224 cam with ls6 heads and intake/exhaust (380 rwhp) 108-111

No BS I gained 4 mph in the 1/4 mile with th 224/224 112 LSA cam..4 mph is HUGE!!!!!!!

So no wonder your car runs like a beaste now. I really loved that cam. Speakin g of cams another one just arrived via UPS for me 20 minutes ago..Hope Im as happy as you are!

Sticks n Stones
01-04-2011, 10:44 PM
Killemall: what does "oem viper cam" mean? That like a GM Hot Cam equivelant for Dodge? How big is it? Spill the beans snake boy!!

WSsick
01-05-2011, 10:59 AM
Killemall: what does "oem viper cam" mean? That like a GM Hot Cam equivelant for Dodge? How big is it? Spill the beans snake boy!!

Probably the cam from a newer Viper motor which is bigger. Like an LS6 cam swap.

Mach Boy
01-05-2011, 01:05 PM
Probably the cam from a newer Viper motor which is bigger. Like an LS6 cam swap.

It doesn't matter. He will still lose to that GT-R and edit the film to make it look like he won. For instance he will probably start the film at the end of the race and run it in reverse so it looks like he is ahead the whole time. The problem with that is the other car will always pull even unless the other car gets a jump.

LT/LS Guy
01-05-2011, 01:41 PM
Killemall: what does "oem viper cam" mean? That like a GM Hot Cam equivelant for Dodge? How big is it? Spill the beans snake boy!!

The OE or OEM cams are from Mopar Performance Parts. I'm assuming the one he is using is from the Gen 4 (2008-up) Viper. Again just assuming.

Ferg95 T/A
01-10-2011, 03:47 PM
Those are some nice numbers

Killemall
01-12-2011, 05:40 AM
Machboy.....im gonna hijack this thread for a sec....ive been posting here for around ten years...killemall is not my first screen name...i have posted well over 100 kill stories on this site while in my 91 nsx or 98 camaro or 99 viper or 2003 viper or 2004 corvette...I dont appreciate being called a liar ect. ...Lets keep it on topic....c6 owner...you are somewhat correct...hijack over and hope the op keeps haviing fun

ScreaminRedZ
01-12-2011, 05:55 AM
Great kill, man!

Stories like this are very real world to me, as alot of people think that a 20 rwhp gain is going to feel earth shattering, but then they realize that even a 50 rwhp gain doesn't hit like they thought it would (although it is relative to the power you're making). You really need a good before/after race or 1/4 runs to see just how much faster the car is.

I got a similar story. Right after I put my cam in I was feeling unbeatable (gained 70 rwhp). To cement that feeling I raced a 1996 convertible GT and destroyed it, only to have the kid ask me if my car was supercharged. I told him no and he said that his was, lol. Then the next night I went out and lined up next to a 2004 Cobra and proceeded to get walked by 4 cars from 60-the top of 4th. The Cobra ended up having a ported blower and made 500+ rwhp. Then I was left with the "there's always someone faster" feeling :lol:

Killemall
01-12-2011, 12:09 PM
You are spot on man..my 224/224 cam and ls6 heads had me rideing a cloud..380 rwhp and 3280 pounds was just SICK!!!! Till I ran a 450 rwhp BPU plus supra anyways..He beat me by 2 cars like 6 times in a row.. Well it was fun while it lasted...LOL