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jtdurbinjr
01-04-2011, 03:59 PM
My 99 SS went from 12.79 to 12.42 with just a converter change. The car is 100% stock other than a converter and tuning by Frost. This was on sticky tires though.

Magnet
01-04-2011, 04:33 PM
Good run.. is it stock weight? What was the DA? So there's no lid or free mods?

jtdurbinjr
01-04-2011, 06:32 PM
This was full weight (nothing removed) with steel wheels, stock exhaust, stock paper air filter and stock 3.23 gears. The car was pretty fast from the start. It ran 13 teens with radials. Weather was good but not the best.

Magnet
01-04-2011, 08:01 PM
Awesome man, looks like the car is running very well!:D

z99ls1
01-05-2011, 01:56 AM
My 99 SS went from 12.79 to 12.42 with just a converter change. The car is 100% stock other than a converter and tuning by Frost. This was on sticky tires though.

What size/brand converter do you have?

jtdurbinjr
01-05-2011, 09:14 AM
Thanks. Yank SS3600

Magnet
01-05-2011, 09:54 AM
Thanks. Yank SS3600

Good choice :thumb:

z99ls1
01-05-2011, 03:18 PM
I figured you would get more than 4 tenths gain with a yank 3600. Did you have more wheel spin on the run with the yank converter?

stewaj11
01-05-2011, 06:35 PM
Reading this thread makes me pretty pumped to head to the track myself. I have the same exact converter the SS3600. Just need the snow to go away!

jtdurbinjr
01-05-2011, 08:12 PM
I figured you would get more than 4 tenths gain with a yank 3600. Did you have more wheel spin on the run with the yank converter?
I would have thought so too but to my surprise it didn't. No wheelspin at all. 1.76 60ft

EVL1SC
01-05-2011, 08:15 PM
Congrats on the time.

redbird555
01-05-2011, 10:29 PM
Wait did you run 12.79 bone stock or was that a converter run only reason I ask is cuz u saidu were in the low 13's stock but then u stated the converter took you from 12.79 to 12.42?

jtdurbinjr
01-06-2011, 06:40 AM
Wait did you run 12.79 bone stock or was that a converter run only reason I ask is cuz u saidu were in the low 13's stock but then u stated the converter took you from 12.79 to 12.42?
I had it tuned by Frost. Sorry for the confusion. I hate it when guys do that stuff and I did it.

z99ls1
01-06-2011, 12:21 PM
I had it tuned by Frost. Sorry for the confusion. I hate it when guys do that stuff and I did it.

What drag radial are your running with to get that ss3600 to hook? Just curious since my converter is similar to urs

senicalj4579
01-06-2011, 12:41 PM
I would have thought so too but to my surprise it didn't. No wheelspin at all. 1.76 60ft

My guess is reason you didnt gain more than .4 is because of the inconsistency in the (DA) weather. Ill bet you the car did gain more than that. Did you track the DA at all?

My car did 12.6 with just mods in sig (stock stall) but da was in the minus. I plan on a ss3600 and im hoping to drop more than .4 for sure.

lemons12
01-06-2011, 12:51 PM
1.76 isn't too good of a 60 ft, you should be in the 1.6s.

People wonder why I don't nut swing on yank.

Good times..

senicalj4579
01-06-2011, 12:59 PM
1.76 isn't too good of a 60 ft, you should be in the 1.6s.

People wonder why I don't nut swing on yank.

Good times..

A little hate on yank?

Magnet
01-06-2011, 01:08 PM
Nothing wrong with yank.. They are some of the most efficient converters for the money and produce good 60's to boot. The SS3600 in my black car went 1.5s stock internal with 3.23 gears and crappy suspension.

lemons12
01-06-2011, 01:19 PM
A little hate on yank?

No hate.. Just call it how I see it. Yank is a very good company and makes one! of the best converters available to us. Just not what the vast majority make it out to be on this forum, aka nut swingers.

senicalj4579
01-06-2011, 01:20 PM
They seem to have best rep as far as iv seen. What I like is they are closer to the advertised stall speed than the rest so you know more of what to expect. Why would someone wanna buy a stall with an actual stall speed higher than advertised?
Also they seem to be very efficient which is a huge plus.
Only reason I can see anyone bashing on yank converters is if they started out with a X brand 3600 stall, then went to a yank 3600 which gave them a worse 60' just because X brand wasnt really a 3600 stall and more like a 4000.
From all the research its a no brainer that Yank sounds like the over all best.

senicalj4579
01-06-2011, 01:26 PM
No hate.. Just call it how I see it. Yank is a very good company and makes one! of the best converters available to us. Just not what the vast majority make it out to be on this forum, aka nut swingers.

Yea I hear ya. I know what your saying but your not giving anykind of concrete answer to why you dont like them? Is it because when you buy X brand, the stall speed is higher than advertised?
I have to admit, I maybe one of those "nutswingers" after I get one installed lol
But Im really just wondering why you choose X over yank?

OP sorry buddy :hijack:


Op start tracking your DA and see what happens. I definatly think your car gained a better time. :nod:

lemons12
01-06-2011, 01:27 PM
They seem to have best rep as far as iv seen. What I like is they are closer to the advertised stall speed than the rest so you know more of what to expect. Why would someone wanna buy a stall with an actual stall speed higher than advertised?
Also they seem to be very efficient which is a huge plus.
Only reason I can see anyone bashing on yank converters is if they started out with a X brand 3600 stall, then went to a yank 3600 which gave them a worse 60' just because X brand wasnt really a 3600 stall and more like a 4000.
From all the research its a no brainer that Yank sounds like the over all best.

You are very close to why I don't consider them the best. Yank makes a product they guarantee, you usually don't get anything extra. By extra I don't mean stall speed.. I mean I rarely see a sixty time that is well above what it should be and it be a yank.
Ptc impresses me 8/10 times. Vig is hit or miss, usually really awesome or not so awesome. Haha
I would explain better but on the phone and dont feel like texting all of it Haha

lemons12
01-06-2011, 01:32 PM
Yea I hear ya. I know what your saying but your not giving anykind of concrete answer to why you dont like them? Is it because when you buy X brand, the stall speed is higher than advertised?
I have to admit, I maybe one of those "nutswingers" after I get one installed lol
But Im really just wondering why you choose X over yank?

My ptc flashes almost exactly to 4000, good extensions and is tight around town. Not boot under 500 shipped brand new.

A nutswinger is someone who has not researched, has not owned the brands being discussed, etc etc... but will back X product til the day they day. That is what irritates me with some people on here with yank. Shit, they could stop advertising. They make a good converter but not so good that when I see a thread asking about converters 9/10 people say yank.

Hopefully that gets what I'm saying across.

senicalj4579
01-06-2011, 01:35 PM
But if your reason for liking X over yank is the "advertised stall speed" then going higher stall speed on the yank should fix your reasoning no? Well to each his own I guess. I still have to put the damn yank in but im not backing anyone 100 %, just going by research for now. Im sure yank isnt the only good converter.
LOL yea I hear ya on the phone thing sorry lol and we just totaly high jacked this guys thread lol Sorry OP! Damn

lemons12
01-06-2011, 01:43 PM
From what I have seen.. A true 3600 ptc hits harder in the sixty than a 3600 yank on average.

It's about his times because of a converter, no high jacking.

jtdurbinjr
01-06-2011, 03:44 PM
Like the discussion guys. Not necessarily any love for one over the other. I did my research and like you said 9/10 people liked Yank and were happy so why not. It is a great piece and does flash exactly what the said. As for the 3600 over the 4000 like everyone said to go with, I had a mental block that wouldn't let me put a 4000 converter in a stock car for the street. Hell, if I had talked to you about a PTC, I would have gone for that @ $500. As for the tires, they were 17" ET Streets.

The car wasn't tuned for the converter and seemed a little flat up top. The car now has a 4.11 gear and has been retuned. No times yet as the tracks have shut down for the year.

Fast T
01-06-2011, 04:57 PM
:D Man your car is really fast. you made me wont a 3600 stall I think that well help me out.Keep up the good work bro,I can see you now with heads,and cam,straight to the 11s.:nod:

lemons12
01-06-2011, 05:20 PM
Like the discussion guys. Not necessarily any love for one over the other. I did my research and like you said 9/10 people liked Yank and were happy so why not. It is a great piece and does flash exactly what the said. As for the 3600 over the 4000 like everyone said to go with, I had a mental block that wouldn't let me put a 4000 converter in a stock car for the street. Hell, if I had talked to you about a PTC, I would have gone for that @ $500. As for the tires, they were 17" ET Streets.

The car wasn't tuned for the converter and seemed a little flat up top. The car now has a 4.11 gear and has been retuned. No times yet as the tracks have shut down for the year.

The difference between a 4000 and a 3600 while driving around town is about 100 rpms. Wot there is quite a difference. My buddy has full weight 98 ta, lts lid 273s ptc 4000 no other mods. He cut a 1.64 on his first and only pass so far in that car, DA was around 2200 and he ran 7.7 @ 87mph.. I think it has high high 1.5 short times and 7.5s in it with 1000 DA.
I cut high 1.4s in 2000da.. full weight, 4000 ptc, 380rwhp.. Honestly suspension still needs some fine tuning along with a tune. I haven't got to go back since the ported 102/xpipe and returne yet but I picked up power everywhere so im guessing it is only going to help my short time.

As for price.. my next converter will be a neil chance probably, that gives you an idea how much i don't care about price in the converter department it is not something you can skimp on. Even if ptc and yank cost 600, i would go ptc.. but the fact that ptc is 500 shipped is icing on the cake.


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jleews6
01-06-2011, 06:26 PM
OP Im a little slow.:D so,,
You ran 13teens 100% bone stock and then 12.79 with a tune and tires, and then the 12.4 with the converter?

z99ls1
01-06-2011, 08:06 PM
Like the discussion guys. Not necessarily any love for one over the other. I did my research and like you said 9/10 people liked Yank and were happy so why not. It is a great piece and does flash exactly what the said. As for the 3600 over the 4000 like everyone said to go with, I had a mental block that wouldn't let me put a 4000 converter in a stock car for the street. Hell, if I had talked to you about a PTC, I would have gone for that @ $500. As for the tires, they were 17" ET Streets.

The car wasn't tuned for the converter and seemed a little flat up top. The car now has a 4.11 gear and has been retuned. No times yet as the tracks have shut down for the year.

Btw what track did you run at? If you know what days you went you get go to dragtimes d/a calculator and it will tell you what your d/a was.

Mac 2002 SS
01-07-2011, 09:01 AM
:D Man your car is really fast. you made me wont a 3600 stall I think that well help me out.Keep up the good work bro,I can see you now with heads,and cam,straight to the 11s.:nod:

I agree. If the stall is all you had done ,then your car is doing damn good moving a 3500+lbs car out the hole. Just choose your mods wisely from this point on. You already got the main piece in . Nice set of headers and a cold air kit and a lil' tweak by Frost again , your ride just might suprise you again.

WARNING ----- Then you are really going to start spending money !! :):)

other suspension mods , heads ,cam ,etc...:):)

jtdurbinjr
01-07-2011, 11:39 AM
OP Im a little slow.:D so,,
You ran 13teens 100% bone stock and then 12.79 with a tune and tires, and then the 12.4 with the converter?
Yes, that is correct.

jtdurbinjr
01-07-2011, 11:51 AM
Btw what track did you run at? If you know what days you went you get go to dragtimes d/a calculator and it will tell you what your d/a was.
Cool, DA was -845

jtdurbinjr
01-07-2011, 11:56 AM
I agree. If the stall is all you had done ,then your car is doing damn good moving a 3500+lbs car out the hole. Just choose your mods wisely from this point on. You already got the main piece in . Nice set of headers and a cold air kit and a lil' tweak by Frost again , your ride just might suprise you again.

WARNING ----- Then you are really going to start spending money !! :):)

other suspension mods , heads ,cam ,etc...:):)

Agreed! The goal for me is to get the car running 11.90s before any engine mods. I just installed 4.11s and had it retuned but no times yet. The next step is headers and Y then maybe some lighter wheels and tires. Then heads and cam and then replace a broken rear. Yeah, so for about another $7k it will be where I want it if I'm lucky.

79TAKid
01-07-2011, 12:19 PM
My 01 Formula went 12.02 @ 111 for the last owner with a vig 3600, QA1 shocks, 3.73s, and a magnaflow muffler on sticky tires for the last owner. Full weight and everything else stock. 1.57 60'
I got pretty close but the weather wasnt good enough to get down to the 12.02 again.

So far with a Yank SS4000, heads/cam, headers its gone 11.400 @ 119 now.

z99ls1
01-07-2011, 12:20 PM
Cool, DA was -845

lucky ass lol. I hate my d/a over here!!!!

79TAKid
01-07-2011, 12:26 PM
Agreed! The goal for me is to get the car running 11.90s before any engine mods. I just installed 4.11s and had it retuned but no times yet. The next step is headers and Y then maybe some lighter wheels and tires. Then heads and cam and then replace a broken rear. Yeah, so for about another $7k it will be where I want it if I'm lucky.

I could be wrong, but I expect you to break your 10 bolt pretty fast if you launch at a decent RPM. Although my suspension was allowing me to leave super violent, my Formula that I talked about in the above post made about 15 passes at about 1700-2000 rpms before breaking 2 teeth off. We put a brand new set of Richmond 3.73s in it, setup perfectly, perfect pattern, broke in right, was dead quiet at any speed. First pass I decided to launch at around 2800 rpms so I could cut a light. It pulled the wheels 3" and ripped 6 teeth off the ring gear. (It now has a 12 bolt)
I've also broken a few sets of 3.73s in my 99 Formula with a 2800 converter, but it also has had about 3000 passes on it in the last 3 years. My brother broke his 10 bolt with 4.10s after awhile with a 3600 converter.
With my dad specializing in rearends, labor is free so its not so bad for me, but be careful, 4.10s are way easier than 3.73s to break.

sliderSS
01-07-2011, 01:24 PM
my 02 SS went 12.8 @ 110 with drag radials, little spin. the down side was that my car hit rev limiter every gear didn't shift left it in drive without O/D.
mods are: 6.0, CAI, LT, TUNE, 3.73's, i figuerd i should be doing a little bit better what do you guys think.

G.T. CHRIS
01-31-2011, 02:25 PM
I have a 99 SS 1Le so I'm lighter with a yank 4k and 342s,lower control arms adjustable pan head bar ..and tuned with drag radials I hit 12.5 but I did has wheel spin