Special Edition Vehicles - ZL1 After 42 Years The Legend is Back……and only from SLP!
camarosss
01-14-2011, 10:53 PM
Just wanted to get you guys input on this. I think they left out that GMMG produced 69 ZL1's in 2002. SLP is basically leaving out the fact that there were ZL1's produced in 2002.
http://slpcamaro.com/zl-models/zl1/
WarShrike
01-14-2011, 10:54 PM
Input on what?
metalmilitia606
01-14-2011, 10:57 PM
^^^ I agree. What exactly are we looking at? I think you may have forgot a link or something lol.
Joshu
01-15-2011, 09:16 AM
He's basically saying that SLP is pretending like GMMG never existed.
ramairetransam
01-15-2011, 10:58 AM
fucking slp
01pewter2001z28
01-16-2011, 09:56 PM
Well my understanding is that GMMG was never able to use the name ZL-1 alone thus the reason why they had to go with ZL-1 Supercar. Seems GM has given SLP the rights to use the ZL-1 name plate.
Sean
camarosss
01-17-2011, 06:38 AM
Well my understanding is that GMMG was never able to use the name ZL-1 alone thus the reason why they had to go with ZL-1 Supercar. Seems GM has given SLP the rights to use the ZL-1 name plate.
Sean
Point being there were 69 ZL1s made in 2002 regardless who made it or what they called them. What gets me is SLP is saying there hasn't been a ZL1 made in 42 years. And the price 80k plus the price of the car. I could probably see it if SLP hadn't made the ZL already.
I can see SLP saying what they are saying IF you have to pick RPO ZL1 to get the package. Then what they say would be the truth.
camarosss
01-17-2011, 07:54 PM
I can see SLP saying what they are saying IF you have to pick RPO ZL1 to get the package. Then what they say would be the truth.
True I really never thought of it that way. But with that said I wonder what the value of the 2002 ZLs hold! And will the new Camaro have the ZL1 RPO code on the factory RPO sticker?
Joshu
01-18-2011, 09:51 AM
fucking slp
Haha I laughed pretty hard at that
Wimimc
01-18-2011, 09:59 AM
And the price 80k plus the price of the car.
so it would be cheaper to get a brand new Z06... and about the same price for a ZR1 Corvette
Asian LSX
01-18-2011, 09:59 AM
This is all wrong having it be a ZL1. The whole point of the original was fitting a 427 in a car that GM restricted due to engine size and vehicle weight. The L72 was such a good idea that they did an aluminum 427 and in order to be legal to race, they needed X amount of cars sold to the public. Of course all the COPO cars were special ordered and were very basic.
Please correct me if my facts are wrong but don't flame me please lol.
The Bronx Bull
01-18-2011, 11:21 AM
Carbon fiber... :barf:
FH212
01-18-2011, 01:58 PM
I dont think I like that car. Maybe its the drawing and it will look better in person but for some reason the carbon fiber accents just does not look good. I like the engine details though! Was ZL1 trade marked by GM? Or is SLP using a great marketing angle?
LS9SkyRedline
01-18-2011, 03:31 PM
Those exhaust tips are just plain ugly.
Wimimc
01-18-2011, 06:26 PM
Those exhaust tips are just plain ugly.
:nod:
LE35thSS
01-18-2011, 10:37 PM
so it would be cheaper to get a brand new Z06... and about the same price for a ZR1 Corvette
well in that case i know what i "would" get.
Actually GMMG would not have built the car without the consent of GM. GM set many of the parameters for the GMMG ZL-1. Scott Settlemire played a big part in getting GM's consent. Scot is on chirpthird.com all the time. Just post your questions there and get the facts.
camarosss
01-20-2011, 01:47 AM
Actually GMMG would not have built the car without the consent of GM. GM set many of the parameters for the GMMG ZL-1. Scott Settlemire played a big part in getting GM's consent. Scot is on chirpthird.com all the time. Just post your questions there and get the facts.
Yea that's the point I'm trying to get accross to SLP. Their sales pitch of the ZL1 only being made one time and after 42 years is beyond me. Thanks grb.
ZL1 #14
01-20-2011, 07:56 AM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, however if you are looking for a investment, forget about cars. But if you desire a hot rod that is fast and unique then buy the car you want and enjoy it, forget it being a "investment". Buying a muscle car is like trying to time the stock market, not happening for most mortals!. Most collectable cars do not reach their true value for a considerable amount of time past original purchase, by that time they have changed owners 2 or 3 times.
As far as the GMMG cars, the value of these cars has not really done anything except go down in recent years along with everything else and that has to do with alot of outside factors beyond our control. Everyone and there brother is coming out with high horsepower cars, my feeling is this is the second coming of the muscle car era, the newer cars are so much faster than the cars of the sixtys, however they do not posess any of the racing DNA or history of the past muscle cars so where is the value? It all comes down to who has the most horsepower in the end.
LSXHawk
01-20-2011, 02:09 PM
Yea that's the point I'm trying to get accross to SLP. Their sales pitch of the ZL1 only being made one time and after 42 years is beyond me. Thanks grb.screw slp i wouldnt buy a damn thing from them. Their warranty service sucks and so does there customer service. its a company full of lie after lie after lie.
1965GP
01-25-2011, 08:05 AM
Cars not being a good investment? I guess like anything to have to time it right.
If you pay full price for a tuner car such as this then yes you will likely never make anything on it. Put your money in a cd.
But if you buy a car when they are at the bottom of their value like a TTA, 87-93 Saleen, 92 Firehawk, etc and are willing to wait for that generation to (in this case early genX) to have considerable disposable income then yes you will make money.
LilJayV10
02-01-2011, 11:37 PM
It's like I just had a Smurf yell at me.
Cosmos
02-02-2011, 12:05 AM
It's like I just had a Smurf yell at me.
:lol:
I like the wheels but the rest of the car sucks. SLP sucks
LilJayV10
02-02-2011, 12:15 AM
:lol:
I like the wheels but the rest of the car sucks. SLP sucks
I am just happy they didn't call it a Firehawk.
Cosmos
02-02-2011, 12:33 AM
I am just happy they didn't call it a Firehawk.
Give them a few months
MillerTime85
02-09-2011, 10:59 PM
Enjoy.
http://www.moderncamaro.com/images/2011ZL1ad1.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kVTaRf2E-8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYGEPZXGZcA
AnnivSS
03-07-2011, 03:27 PM
so it would be cheaper to get a brand new Z06... and about the same price for a ZR1 Corvette
Actually new z06's sticker anywhere between $76,000-$83,000 depending on the few options there are on the car. And you wont be able to buy a new zr1 for less than $100k, much less lower than $90k.
And I wasnt aware that SLP was responsible for the new ZL1, and honestly that dissapoints me. I worked at a dealer here in OK that sold a few of the SLP ZL575's and ZL550's. I had a customer of mine buy a ZL575 and fit it with a pair of SLP long tube headers. He then had a local shop tune it. SLP advertised 575bhp and then when dynoed AFTER headers and a tune it could only muster 473whp. Even if it was stock that a 100hp loss through the drivetrain which is absolutely REDICULOUS.
GM: Can we have a LS7 powered 5th gen yet? Give me a basic sound system, a LS7, a t56, and cloth seats. PLEASE.
Any investment is a gamble. You buy a car because you want it and if it happens to become collectible, that's great. When it comes to quality of investment many of us thought the stock mkt. was rock solid. Looking back if I had put my money in collectible cars early in 2008 I would be far better off financially than I am today. It's a matter of choosing your poison.
indigo s10
03-27-2011, 10:24 PM
I'd rather have a Nickey Stage III.
dkota1968
03-28-2011, 09:05 PM
So let me get this straight, Slp is making 69 ZL1's in 11' and then chevy is going to make them anyway in 2012. Seems kinda dumb to buy the Slp version when you could just wait for the GM version and get the full factory backing on breaking stuff haha. I think they should have done the LS7 personally to stay with the heritage but whatever. Ive also heard of some kinda special handleing camaro coming out and it could possibly be the z28. On a side note I do like the new Motion camaros coming out by Denooyer.