Tools & Fabrication - My review of the Duralast 3/8 Long Handle "Snap on Copy" Ratchet




Damian
01-15-2011, 09:58 AM
I've got a commercial account with Autozone so I get a pretty good deal on their tools and figured I'd try the new "Snap on" style ratchet Duralast put out. It carries a lifetime warranty, and seems to be a direct copy of the Snap On. And so far, it definitely is.

I'm extremely impressed with it. I used it all day yesterday and it felt identical to my snap on ratchet. The feel, tooth count, socket retention, everything felt the exact same as my $140 Snap on ratchet. The best part, they're $24.99 retail from AZ.

FYI, I broke both ratchets down to bare bones and they're nearly identical on the inside as well.

Time will tell how it holds up to abuse, but my initial impressions of the ratchet are very good. If you're wanting a Snap on style ratchet but don't have big bucks for one, stop by AZ and check these out.

Enjoy.


01ssreda4
01-15-2011, 11:05 AM
I have always thought most things Snap On were way overpriced.

Damian
01-15-2011, 12:10 PM
About 30% of their price is the name you're paying for. But there is a difference with most Snap On tools if you use your tools every day for work. The build quality is definitely apparent, and there's no need to drive anywhere to repair or replace a broken Snap on tool when the tool truck will come directly to your shop.

For the weekend warrior, Snap on definitely isn't necessary or practical. Ratchets like the Duralast or most Harbor Freight stuff is just fine for the occasional wrencher. This $24.99 Duralast ratchet is beyond impressive considering how much it costs. It feels identical to my Snap On.


Zmg00camaross
01-15-2011, 12:24 PM
Hmm It does look very close to snap on, What is the tooth count? I do like my 80 tooth snap on rachets. Keep it updated on how well it holds up.

squints88
01-15-2011, 01:16 PM
I love my 80 tooth snap on ratchets as well...however if these performed close to that I'd definitely buy some for wrenching at home

Zmg00camaross
01-15-2011, 03:01 PM
I love my 80 tooth snap on ratchets as well...however if these performed close to that I'd definitely buy some for wrenching at home

I agree

Vmineo
01-15-2011, 11:04 PM
Your a character you call craftsmen junk but you use autozone ratchet.You cant compare snap on to autozone.Its like comparing apples to oranges.I added some pictures of what happens to your ratchet after like 2 min of use.Someone like yourself told me autozone quality is like snap on and snap on is overpriced.I was taking the body bolts off a old dodge.I put a pipe on his ratchet and grinded all the gears.One shot.Came along with my snap on no problems.,JUNK,not only that they have the worst possible gear ratio I ever seen

qwikz28
01-15-2011, 11:49 PM
Damian- You didn't happen to count the teeth when you had it apart did you? I've been looking online and it seems they are a standard 36 tooth.

Damian
01-16-2011, 09:51 AM
Your a character you call craftsmen junk but you use autozone ratchet.You cant compare snap on to autozone.Its like comparing apples to oranges.I added some pictures of what happens to your ratchet after like 2 min of use.Someone like yourself told me autozone quality is like snap on and snap on is overpriced.I was taking the body bolts off a old dodge.I put a pipe on his ratchet and grinded all the gears.One shot.Came along with my snap on no problems.,JUNK,not only that they have the worst possible gear ratio I ever seen

I never said "buy this ratchet over snap on if you're a professional using your tools everyday". It was more or less letting the occasional wrenchers know that the Duralast ratchet is a decent ratchet for light duty use. I have over $50,000 invested in tools, I don't need lectures on whats good and what isn't.

And BTW, if you "put a pipe on it and grinded all the gears off" then you misused the ratchet and broke it due to abuse. You don't put pipes on 3/8" ratchets to try and break something loose. Just sayin....

Oh, and Craftsman IS junk. Their professional series stuff is "ok" at best, but I find shit at Harbor Freight that is on par with most Craftsman stuff these days.

Damian- You didn't happen to count the teeth when you had it apart did you? I've been looking online and it seems they are a standard 36 tooth.

I broke it back down and it is a 36 tooth.

This definitely isn't my "go to" ratchet, but it's a great buy for the money spent and there's Autozone's everywhere if you have a warranty issue and need to replace one. I'm a tool collector regardless if I use them on a daily basis or not, so this is just an addition to my collection.

mikeyc34
01-16-2011, 10:29 AM
i dont like snap on got ripped by them. my dad gave me some snap on tools when i was in my high school auto class. all we had there were snap on tools. one day i sheared a 3/8" extension and since it sheared flat the snap on guy told me that i cut it apart. since then i have gotten craftsman. for the everyday guy it works out best bc if something brakes you take it back to sears (10 mins from my house) or if you loose it you can replace it relatively cheap. i would most get a ratchet like the one from az before i ever bought snap on again.

ps im not saying snap on tools are not good im saying that i had a bad experience with the dumbass snap on rep.....and since there isnt a snap on store it would not be feasible for me to waste all the money to get snap on tools.

qwikz28
01-16-2011, 12:25 PM
I certainly understand the want for quality, but as Damian has been saying, sometimes the cheaper stuff is sufficient or makes a good accessory to the expensive stuff for some jobs. Personally, I do only small jobs on the car or around the house, so Snap-on is not for me. Craftsman may offer "junk", but I have only broken one ratchet (which I was using as a hammer) in my lifetime of using Craftsman tools. The lifetime warranty and proximity of Sears' makes Craftsman the obvious choice for me. While these Duralast ratchets look good, I'm looking for finer tooth ratchets so I'll likely move up to Craftsman Professional Grades.

Good thread!

Damian
01-16-2011, 06:56 PM
i dont like snap on got ripped by them. my dad gave me some snap on tools when i was in my high school auto class. all we had there were snap on tools. one day i sheared a 3/8" extension and since it sheared flat the snap on guy told me that i cut it apart. since then i have gotten craftsman. for the everyday guy it works out best bc if something brakes you take it back to sears (10 mins from my house) or if you loose it you can replace it relatively cheap. i would most get a ratchet like the one from az before i ever bought snap on again.

ps im not saying snap on tools are not good im saying that i had a bad experience with the dumbass snap on rep.....and since there isnt a snap on store it would not be feasible for me to waste all the money to get snap on tools.

That is very common and the Snap on guy didn't try to rip you off. I've broken one Snap on extension before while R&R'ing a trans. My tool man told me the same thing. Basically said that Snap on themselves will not give him credit for a new one if the old one is completely destroyed. Needless to say my extension was completely destroyed and I got a new one. Matco carries this same policy. They didn't try and rip you off, they were following protocol.

I certainly understand the want for quality, but as Damian has been saying, sometimes the cheaper stuff is sufficient or makes a good accessory to the expensive stuff for some jobs. Personally, I do only small jobs on the car or around the house, so Snap-on is not for me. Craftsman may offer "junk", but I have only broken one ratchet (which I was using as a hammer) in my lifetime of using Craftsman tools. The lifetime warranty and proximity of Sears' makes Craftsman the obvious choice for me. While these Duralast ratchets look good, I'm looking for finer tooth ratchets so I'll likely move up to Craftsman Professional Grades.

Good thread!

The absolute BEST places to shop for Craftsman are flea markets or pawn shops because you can find the old/good stuff that was all made in the USA and nearly unbreakable. I've got some 15-20 yr old Craftsman stuff that is awesome. Nowadays you have to be very selective on what you buy from Sears because half of it is cheap junk made overseas that's equal to or worse than Harbor freight stuff. Same goes with Husky. Anything ranging 10-20 yrs old from Husky is great stuff.

Vmineo
01-17-2011, 02:44 AM
I never said "buy this ratchet over snap on if you're a professional using your tools everyday". It was more or less letting the occasional wrenchers know that the Duralast ratchet is a decent ratchet for light duty use. I have over $50,000 invested in tools, I don't need lectures on whats good and what isn't. [/SIZE]

And BTW, if you "put a pipe on it and grinded all the gears off" then you misused the ratchet and broke it due to abuse. You don't put pipes on 3/8" ratchets to try and break something loose. Just sayin....

Oh, and Craftsman IS junk. Their professional series stuff is "ok" at best, but I find shit at Harbor Freight that is on par with most Craftsman stuff these days.


I broke it back down and it is a 36 tooth.

This definitely isn't my "go to" ratchet, but it's a great buy for the money spent and there's Autozone's everywhere if you have a warranty issue and need to replace one. I'm a tool collector regardless if I use them on a daily basis or not, so this is just an addition to my collection.

So what you went out a spent 50,000 on autozone tools ,because if you spent 50,000 and brought snap on you obviously wouldn't be playing around with a autozone ratchet.Was it necessary to say you spent 50,000 on tools,should I be impressed or something?.Your acting like your a pro on tools or something.Be a little more open minded to other things.Like in the other thread was it necessary to call the guys torque wrench junk,he goes out and spends 250$ on it and you say that.People work hard for there stuff and do not like it to be called junk.There are plenty of tool companies im sure you never even heard of that are great but Im sure since you never heard of them you would think there junk.Like CK Tools,PROTO,etc.Im open-minded to all tools and before I state my opinion I try them so I do not look ignorant

You obviously never worked on an older car.Its not like I can come along with an air impact and take the body bolt out.I heat them up and break them loose with the ratchet and a pipe.Never broke a ratchet or a body bolt(Knock on wood)


Do you know why businesses use snap on?For prestige and obviously quality.Charge a guy 10,000 to build a motor and tell him your using an autozone ratchet.People want the best and you cant beat it.Its like using those junk headstuds vs ARP.Ok save 1/2 price on the stud but Pay me 3x when it breaks to fix it.For an hobbiest or someone who doesn't work on cars all the time.Craftsmen is more than suitable,snap on is overkill for stuff like that.Snap on is designed for day in and out working..,regardless of what the OP says craftsmen is a good tool,even the newer ones..

The problem I have with the light duty autozone ratchets are the gear ratios are horrible.Who wants to turn a ratchet 80 times to loosen a bolt,not me

BTW for anyone having problem with a snap on dealer not returning tools You can send them directly to snap on and they will take it back no questions asked.I have the number for anyone intrested

Pocket
01-17-2011, 08:32 AM
You broke the ratchet because you misused it. A pipe cheater bar on a 3/8 ratchet is abuse. Grab a 1/2 breaker bar and go to it, thats what they're designed for. Saying you've done it wrong for years dont change that you're still doing it wrong

Whats this poor gear ratio mess? You turn any ratchet 1/4 turn, the socket turns 1/4 turn. Tooth counts are for how much angle you have to turn the ratchet before it clicks and you can reapply torque on the socket. Higher tooth counts offer reduced angles for tight locations at the cost of reduced maximum torque before tool failure

That being said, my favorite ratchet is a $2 advance auto special flexible spark plug stubby. 90% of the bolts I mess with are low torque. Comfortable handle, fits anywhere, high tooth count, add a few drops of oil on the gear and its as smooth as my snap-on's. Cant beat it

Damian
01-17-2011, 10:01 AM
So what you went out a spent 50,000 on autozone tools ,because if you spent 50,000 and brought snap on you obviously wouldn't be playing around with a autozone ratchet.Was it necessary to say you spent 50,000 on tools,should I be impressed or something?.Your acting like your a pro on tools or something.Be a little more open minded to other things.Like in the other thread was it necessary to call the guys torque wrench junk,he goes out and spends 250$ on it and you say that.People work hard for there stuff and do not like it to be called junk.There are plenty of tool companies im sure you never even heard of that are great but Im sure since you never heard of them you would think there junk.Like CK Tools,PROTO,etc.Im open-minded to all tools and before I state my opinion I try them so I do not look ignorant

You obviously never worked on an older car.Its not like I can come along with an air impact and take the body bolt out.I heat them up and break them loose with the ratchet and a pipe.Never broke a ratchet or a body bolt(Knock on wood)


Do you know why businesses use snap on?For prestige and obviously quality.Charge a guy 10,000 to build a motor and tell him your using an autozone ratchet.People want the best and you cant beat it.Its like using those junk headstuds vs ARP.Ok save 1/2 price on the stud but Pay me 3x when it breaks to fix it.For an hobbiest or someone who doesn't work on cars all the time.Craftsmen is more than suitable,snap on is overkill for stuff like that.Snap on is designed for day in and out working..,regardless of what the OP says craftsmen is a good tool,even the newer ones..

The problem I have with the light duty autozone ratchets are the gear ratios are horrible.Who wants to turn a ratchet 80 times to loosen a bolt,not me

BTW for anyone having problem with a snap on dealer not returning tools You can send them directly to snap on and they will take it back no questions asked.I have the number for anyone intrested

I'll make cliff note replies to your post:
-I call it like I see it. If a grown man gets his feelings hurt because I called Craftsman junk, so be it. Anything new manufactured by Craftsman is garbage, ask any professional. Matter of fact, go pick up a Craftsman TQ wrench at any Sears store. They feel like Fisher Price toys.
-I got the Duralast ratchet more so out of boredom and curiosity. Not because I think I should start buying Duralast tools.
-Yep. Got well over 50K in Snap on, Matco, Mac, etc...I'll buy a lower name tool every now and then if it interest me.
-As said above, tooth count effects how far back the ratchet has to be turned to acquire grip again to turn the bolt. The actual tightening of the bolt is the same amount of strokes, regardless of the tooth count.

Again, I think you're too busy trying to come off like a know-it-all rather than understanding the point of my post. Weekend wrenchers don't need Snap on, and shouldn't buy it. They'd be wasting their money. Ratchets like this Duralast that seem VERY well made for the $25 spent are great tools for those occasions.

Now unless you have something else positive to say about the subject in this post, stop replying in it. Thanks.

G-Body
01-17-2011, 11:43 PM
That is very common and the Snap on guy didn't try to rip you off. I've broken one Snap on extension before while R&R'ing a trans. My tool man told me the same thing. Basically said that Snap on themselves will not give him credit for a new one if the old one is completely destroyed. Needless to say my extension was completely destroyed and I got a new one. Matco carries this same policy. They didn't try and rip you off, they were following protocol.

That seems crazy to me, if I bought tools with a lifetime warranty I think they should cover it as long as it wasn`t abused. I can see if theres dings in a ratchet handle from hitting it with a hammer to break a bolt loose, but if I snap off an extension I would think that would be replaced no questions asked.

Vmineo
01-18-2011, 12:32 AM
Deleted, not worth arguing over tools its childish

thunderstruck507
01-18-2011, 11:49 AM
That seems crazy to me, if I bought tools with a lifetime warranty I think they should cover it as long as it wasn`t abused. I can see if theres dings in a ratchet handle from hitting it with a hammer to break a bolt loose, but if I snap off an extension I would think that would be replaced no questions asked.

Our tools have always been replaced no questions asked, no matter what it is, extensions included.

Mr.Nguyen
01-20-2011, 12:45 PM
I'll make cliff note replies to your post:
-I call it like I see it. If a grown man gets his feelings hurt because I called Craftsman junk, so be it. Anything new manufactured by Craftsman is garbage, ask any professional. Matter of fact, go pick up a Craftsman TQ wrench at any Sears store. They feel like Fisher Price toys.
-I got the Duralast ratchet more so out of boredom and curiosity. Not because I think I should start buying Duralast tools.
-Yep. Got well over 50K in Snap on, Matco, Mac, etc...I'll buy a lower name tool every now and then if it interest me.
-As said above, tooth count effects how far back the ratchet has to be turned to acquire grip again to turn the bolt. The actual tightening of the bolt is the same amount of strokes, regardless of the tooth count.

Again, I think you're too busy trying to come off like a know-it-all rather than understanding the point of my post. Weekend wrenchers don't need Snap on, and shouldn't buy it. They'd be wasting their money. Ratchets like this Duralast that seem VERY well made for the $25 spent are great tools for those occasions.

Now unless you have something else positive to say about the subject in this post, stop replying in it. Thanks.

I wasted my money :violin:

Lushdrunk
03-16-2011, 06:40 PM
Your a character you call craftsmen junk but you use autozone ratchet.You cant compare snap on to autozone.Its like comparing apples to oranges.I added some pictures of what happens to your ratchet after like 2 min of use.Someone like yourself told me autozone quality is like snap on and snap on is overpriced.I was taking the body bolts off a old dodge.I put a pipe on his ratchet and grinded all the gears.One shot.Came along with my snap on no problems.,JUNK,not only that they have the worst possible gear ratio I ever seen



Thats NOT a Duralast ratchet you have pictured. I don't know WTF it is, but its NOT Duralast.
Duralast does not make a quick release ratchet, nor a ratchet with two pawls. Nice try tho..


I hate lier's.




The REAL Duralast ratchets are really nice. They are exact copy's of the snap-on 936 ratchets. They are very strong, and reliable. ( BTW their is no such thing as a ratchet "gear ratio" it would be 1:1 like a wrench because the gear inside does not effect the ratio in witch the bolt turns.. No ratchet can remove a bolt faster then any other ratchet. Thats just dumb.)

If anyone is interested in a better then craftsman, not quite a snap-on quality tool then you should check out Duralast.

If you don't believe me then check out www.garagejournal.com/forum many die hard tool fans have tested the Duralast ratchet and all have had great success with it.

Here is REAL pictures of the guts of a duralast ratchet vs a Snap-on 936 Duralast is on the left, Snap-on is on the right.

http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy166/Sapponytribe/IMG_1063.jpg

89 formula350
03-20-2011, 10:54 AM
I have so many different ratchets but my snap on ones are the best if you want bloody knuckles buy craftsman or alltrade craftsman are nice because they just give out at the worst possible time.

THENASCAR
03-20-2011, 11:32 AM
well all i can say from being a technician myself, you dont have time to have broken tools, you need qaulity , and buying snap on has not let me down yet. no there not the cheapest but it you are making a living using your tools, 6-7 days a week working, the extra cost is taken care of by the reliability. i wont buy any tools for work except, snap on and matco

96TransAmboosted
03-20-2011, 11:52 AM
who buys any ratchet without the ergo grips? your hands must hurt like hell when you go home. Ill stick with my over priced snap on tools that i never have issues with.

bore.me
03-20-2011, 12:22 PM
So I'm confused, is the duralast from Autozone the same as Snap On or not? Are most of the parts the same? My 3/8 Craftsman broke yesterday, the little sprung ball that holds/releases the socket fell out so it's nearly useless now. After this thread i'm considering going to Autozone instead of Sears today...

96TransAmboosted
03-20-2011, 06:21 PM
LOL autozone or duracrap is not the same as snap on at all, well there both ratchets. The snap on is the best of the 2

u118224
03-22-2011, 02:28 PM
I agree with the negative comments on Craftsman rachets. I've always been a Craftsman fan, but I have nothing but trouble with my Craftsman rachets, especially the 1/4" rachet. My favorite rachet is an SK 3/8 flex, which is 72 tooth. When I replace my rachets, I'd like to get SK. What do the pros here think of SK tools?

SmokedOutZ28
03-22-2011, 09:49 PM
Is this a new line of auto-zone ratchets? a few years back when I worked in the Auto field I would buy cheap shit to use at home and leave the snap on and matco stuff at the shop and had nothing but problems with breaking the "Great neck" ratchets.

Zmg00camaross
03-22-2011, 10:26 PM
I agree with the negative comments on Craftsman rachets. I've always been a Craftsman fan, but I have nothing but trouble with my Craftsman rachets, especially the 1/4" rachet. My favorite rachet is an SK 3/8 flex, which is 72 tooth. When I replace my rachets, I'd like to get SK. What do the pros here think of SK tools?

Sk makes a good tool, Couple of guys at my shop use them and dont have to many issues. there impact sockets and a little thicker than lets say a snap on so some times in a cramp area there difficult to use and get on a fastner. But no biggie use a thinner crome socket and hammar the hell out of it:D. I would buy SK.

Tobias05
03-22-2011, 11:00 PM
...but I have nothing but trouble with my Craftsman rachets, especially the 1/4" rachet...

We used to tear up 1/4" snap-on ratchets all the time, they're just not big enough to be very strong IMO.

...I really don't have any brand loyalty. I run to autozone or advance when i need a wrench or socket i don't have. But, I understand spending cash on the high use items, like ratchets.

I guess as long as you have a warrenty and don't mind running to the store every now and then, it's not a big deal. But I'm not meching on 90 million dollar aircraft that i then have to get on and fly in anymore. I got time, lol.

VETTEX2
03-24-2011, 02:34 PM
We used to tear up 1/4" snap-on ratchets all the time, they're just not big enough to be very strong IMO.

...I really don't have any brand loyalty. I run to autozone or advance when i need a wrench or socket i don't have. But, I understand spending cash on the high use items, like ratchets.

I guess as long as you have a warranty and don't mind running to the store every now and then, it's not a big deal. But I'm not meching on 90 million dollar aircraft that i then have to get on and fly in anymore. I got time, lol.

is any 1/4" strong ?
I kinda doubt it

my snap-on 1/4 " is going on 30 and hasn't failed , but I use it for interior work ,
not under the hood ,
there I use air ratchets , 3/8's and 1/4 "

BADD SS
03-26-2011, 12:31 PM
I have always thought most things Snap On were way overpriced.

...here we go......

Damian
03-27-2011, 10:30 AM
CRAPSman stuff is junk, and you'll see me preaching that in this forum often. The only good Craftsman tools I own and actually use are 20+ years back when owning Craftsman tools actually meant something.

I'm going on 2 months now of constant use/abuse with the Duralast ratchet and so far it's held up great. I've put a ton of TQ on it and it hasn't blinked an eye. I used it last week to snap off an old rusty exhaust bolt on a diesel. Used a 6 inch cheater bar just to see if it'd break the ratchet, the bolt broke loose first...

Best $25 I've ever spent on a ratchet. I'm about to go pick up their stubby version of this ratchet for $19.99 and try it out.

96TransAmboosted
03-27-2011, 10:38 AM
1.4 ratchet is not for breaking bolts loose or TQ things down by any means at all, there for little jobs, and if the part is that tight then other means may be nessary to remove it, but even if you snap on breaks the guy will fix it for you WHEN HE COMES TO YOU at the shop. that alone saves time and worry knowing you dont have to go anywhere

SK is for broke ass mech who caint afford GOOD tools from Snap or Matco, shit even MAC is great when you can get them to show up every week

VETTEX2
03-28-2011, 09:34 AM
CRAPSman stuff is junk, and you'll see me preaching that in this forum often. The only good Craftsman tools I own and actually use are 20+ years back when owning Craftsman tools actually meant something.

try 40+ years:D

CL2000
03-28-2011, 09:22 PM
I was always a fan of snap on ratchets...I really like their fine tooth 80 or what ever but matco did a deal on there 88 tooth trade any ratchet in and get this one for $30. I will never buy anything but matco from now on. They have a way smaller head and they break in to be very smooth. I thought it was ruff when I felt it on the truck but it broke in quick.

airfix
03-28-2011, 11:33 PM
80 tooth snap on FTMFW! The 72 tooth 1/4" is very nice too.

airfix
03-28-2011, 11:41 PM
who buys any ratchet without the ergo grips? your hands must hurt like hell when you go home. Ill stick with my over priced snap on tools that i never have issues with.

I personally don't like the ergo grip. They do feel nice but the soft handle gets beat up pretty quick, from what I've seen anyways.

J1D2warrior
04-24-2011, 07:14 PM
I have some craftsman wrenches....and they are fine. I also have a set of Snap On wrenches I love.

I have a 1/4 inch Snap On wratchet and a 3/8 Matco wratchet I use most of the time.

I have a couple of Craftsman wratchets in the toolbox as back ups in case I need them, but THEY ARE JUNK and I go to the local Sears quite often to have them replaced.

Old Geezer
05-12-2011, 05:09 PM
LOVE SNAP ON tools!!:D:razz::razz:

67RSCamaroVette
05-18-2011, 08:49 PM
I gave away all of my crapsman tools after losing a tooth when a 3/8 "professional" ratchet blew up and hit me in the mouth. Partially my fault for pulling towards my face, I put down the snap-on standard length ratchet and picked up the long crapsman, big mistake. I'll use crapsman for sockets on occasion, but their 12pt selection is gone now, and I break so many of them that it gets ridiculous. 95% of my tools are snap-on, now, other than specialty items. (wire crimp pliers, linesman pliers, channel-lok's, vise-grip etc..) I've spent over $20,000 on tools in the last 5 years, and very rarely does Snap-On let me down. Most of the time, me breaking the tool was my fault by using it for a purpose it was not intended to do.

TempesT68
05-28-2011, 04:50 PM
I've got the soft grip handle duralast ratchet and it is a quality piece and a for sure knock off of the snap on. It's not quite as nice, but not near the price either and works great for the average person.

SuperSport346
06-27-2011, 01:33 PM
Are Duralast made in the States? That is one reason I buy Craftsman.

Most of my tools are Craftsman, and while I'm only a hobby mechanic, I've only had one or two tools break on me. I've never had a problem with a Craftsman ratchet except for their size. Snap on ratchets and torque wrenches are smaller and fit in places Craftsman won't.

If you buy Craftsman hand tools on sale (especially on black Friday) nothing beats them for the money.

castajc82
10-22-2011, 08:46 PM
New to the forum but as a professional technician i can say that snap-on has its ups and downs. I have a wide assortment of snap-on tools and have no real complaints. Im am fortunate to have a dealer that knows how to take care of his customers and stand by his product. I have a lot of duralast tools at my home garage and for the money and quality you really cant beat em. the sockets and ratchets work great. Sockets grab like they should and ratchets feel just as tight as the snapon 936 series. I have all 80 tooth at work but the duralast do what i need them to do at home. The price point is better than craftsman professional in my opinon.

Jim85IROC
11-09-2011, 12:23 PM
Most of my tools ate Craftsman, but I bought most of them 15+ years ago. 5 or so years ago I bought their smooth (professional series?) ratchets and I'm happy with them. Newer craftsman stuff is getting cheap, and they're moving most of it overseas. As a result, I've gone elsewhere for most of my newer stuff. I like SK stuff, but lately I've been getting a lot of harbor freight stuff. I don't use it in critical or high torque situations, but so far for normal use it's holding up fine.

99'CajunFirehawk157
11-14-2011, 12:00 PM
FWIW: just like anything built today, since we’re all trying to find the lowest price, everything pretty much made today is not what it used to be, everything goes to the lowest bidder = junk pretty much. Tools made 10-15 years ago and further back were much better than today’s stuff.

Speaking of ratchets;
Looking for a good, long handled, 1/4" flex ratchet...any recommendations, Damain does Duralast make that in 1/4 drive?

Jim85IROC
11-26-2011, 03:29 PM
FWIW: just like anything built today, since we’re all trying to find the lowest price, everything pretty much made today is not what it used to be, everything goes to the lowest bidder = junk pretty much. Tools made 10-15 years ago and further back were much better than today’s stuff.

Speaking of ratchets;
Looking for a good, long handled, 1/4" flex ratchet...any recommendations, Damain does Duralast make that in 1/4 drive?I just picked up a Gearwrench 1/4" flex ratchet. It's very similar in style to my older 3/8" Craftsman flex ratchet that I love, except that the 1/4" I just bought has a straight handle instead of the angled handle. I've used it a few times, and so far I'm very happy. The build quality seems very good, and I freed some pretty tight bolts with it and it felt very solid. It's made in Taiwan, not China. Some may not distinguish when choosing stuff, but generally I've found that Taiwan tools tend to be pretty good, especially compared to most china stuff.

Here's the one I bought:
http://www.tooltopia.com/gearwrench-81012.aspx

I bought it at amazon. It was a couple bucks more, but with the free shipping, it worked out better.

blackonblacksls
12-04-2011, 11:45 AM
I do god awful things to 3/8s ratchets. And the best one I have ever had ever is some swivel/rachet handle one that I got from Walmart . Stanley brand. And before anyone says anything. I probably have 3 broken craftsmen ones. And a decent snap on one. And maybe one or two other craftsmens that work.