H/C Shopping list. Help me before I order please!
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H/C Shopping list. Help me before I order please!
After reading for months and months on here and my budget of $3k I have decided to go with a Texas Speed H/C. I will be ordering next week. Here is what I have come up with/what I already have.
Either the 2.5 PRC 5.3 OR 2.5 LS6 H/C Package(Will call them to decide before I order)
MS3 or MS4 cam both @ 111lsa(will decide when I call them/same with PR length)
TSP Ported LS6 oil pump
$2,224.98
Deluxe Heads & Camshaft Bolt & Gasket Kit
GM MSL Head Gaskets
ARP head bolts
My valve cover and intake gaskets are shot which is why I'm going this route and not a cheaper gasket kit.
$403.99
LS7 Lifters $139.99
LS2 Timing Set $109.99
4x LS2/LS3 Lifter Tray 23.96
Total for above WITHOUT shipping $2902.91
Things I already have: LS6 intake/38# injectors/SLP UDP/Pacesetter Longtubes /TSP ORY/SLP Loudmouth Catback/AMW Catch can/Hawks crank install tool
Aside from a trunion upgrade to the rockers, dyno tune and maybe some katech rod bolts is there anything I am missing besides suspention/gears?
BTW this is just a fun street car. Cruising only on nice days. Track a couple times a year and maybe some highway fun. I would like to see 450RWHP staying with the LS6 intake but I realize that is not that easy.
Either the 2.5 PRC 5.3 OR 2.5 LS6 H/C Package(Will call them to decide before I order)
MS3 or MS4 cam both @ 111lsa(will decide when I call them/same with PR length)
TSP Ported LS6 oil pump
$2,224.98
Deluxe Heads & Camshaft Bolt & Gasket Kit
GM MSL Head Gaskets
ARP head bolts
My valve cover and intake gaskets are shot which is why I'm going this route and not a cheaper gasket kit.
$403.99
LS7 Lifters $139.99
LS2 Timing Set $109.99
4x LS2/LS3 Lifter Tray 23.96
Total for above WITHOUT shipping $2902.91
Things I already have: LS6 intake/38# injectors/SLP UDP/Pacesetter Longtubes /TSP ORY/SLP Loudmouth Catback/AMW Catch can/Hawks crank install tool
Aside from a trunion upgrade to the rockers, dyno tune and maybe some katech rod bolts is there anything I am missing besides suspention/gears?
BTW this is just a fun street car. Cruising only on nice days. Track a couple times a year and maybe some highway fun. I would like to see 450RWHP staying with the LS6 intake but I realize that is not that easy.
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Get your *** moving, summers almost here. I would wait on ordering pushrods until you have the heads on. Then you could check for pushrod length. Also to make your job easier, I can send you a thread chasing tool to clean out your headbolt holes. It was 30 or 40 bucks, you can use it for free if youd like. I'm sure it would be 5 bucks to send it out. Use it and just send it back. (No fine Print). Do you already have the right tools available?
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Get your *** moving, summers almost here. I would wait on ordering pushrods until you have the heads on. Then you could check for pushrod length. Also to make your job easier, I can send you a thread chasing tool to clean out your headbolt holes. It was 30 or 40 bucks, you can use it for free if youd like. I'm sure it would be 5 bucks to send it out. Use it and just send it back. (No fine Print). Do you already have the right tools available?
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Well now I'm not sure what I want to do. It's either the above or Ticks
Polluter H/C with as cast Trick flow 220's. Searching really netted me nothing comparing PRC 2.5 LS6's to the 220's. There was 1 thread but it got really off topic. Any feedback please?
Polluter H/C with as cast Trick flow 220's. Searching really netted me nothing comparing PRC 2.5 LS6's to the 220's. There was 1 thread but it got really off topic. Any feedback please?
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Between those two, I would go with the Trick Flow 220's. Those as cast heads are only about 10 hp off of the CNC 215's. I've done a lot of research on the Trick Flow 220 as cast heads, and have read nothing but good things about them. IMO, more power potential than the 2.5 LS6 heads.
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Between those two, I would go with the Trick Flow 220's. Those as cast heads are only about 10 hp off of the CNC 215's. I've done a lot of research on the Trick Flow 220 as cast heads, and have read nothing but good things about them. IMO, more power potential than the 2.5 LS6 heads.
Trick Flow 220cc "As Cast" Heads fully assembled with .650" Dual Valvesprings and milled .010" (~10.7:1 compression on a stock LS1 bottom end)
Tick Performance Polluter Camshaft
Yella Terra 1.7 Non-Adjustable Rocker Set
Hardened 7.500" Pushrods
Polluter Cam (24x/24x (.61x"/.61x") 112LSA)
All gaskets/bolts included
$2600
Upgrade to ARP head bolts $49.99
LS7 Lifters $109.99
Ported LS6 oil pump $114.99
Total 2,874.96 SHIPPED
Only thing I need to add is a LS2 timing set and lifter trays.($3008.91 with chain and lifter trays) Not sure what I want to go with now. I emailed Tick so I guess I'll see what they say. I wish there were more people running it so I could see different results. Tons of MS3/MS4/PRC LS6/5.3 info on this board.
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That looks like a pretty good deal. I personally think the Trick Flow heads are better, and if you get all that for that price, I'd do it. I really think you'll be very happy with the Trick Flow heads. Have you searched on here for those heads. Lots of happy campers.
Yeah that's what I was reading. Here is what the Tick Performance heads and cam setup consist of:
Trick Flow 220cc "As Cast" Heads fully assembled with .650" Dual Valvesprings and milled .010" (~10.7:1 compression on a stock LS1 bottom end)
Tick Performance Polluter Camshaft
Yella Terra 1.7 Non-Adjustable Rocker Set
Hardened 7.500" Pushrods
Polluter Cam (24x/24x (.61x"/.61x") 112LSA)
All gaskets/bolts included
$2600
Upgrade to ARP head bolts $49.99
LS7 Lifters $109.99
Ported LS6 oil pump $114.99
Total 2,874.96 SHIPPED
Only thing I need to add is a LS2 timing set and lifter trays.($3008.91 with chain and lifter trays) Not sure what I want to go with now. I emailed Tick so I guess I'll see what they say. I wish there were more people running it so I could see different results. Tons of MS3/MS4/PRC LS6/5.3 info on this board.
Trick Flow 220cc "As Cast" Heads fully assembled with .650" Dual Valvesprings and milled .010" (~10.7:1 compression on a stock LS1 bottom end)
Tick Performance Polluter Camshaft
Yella Terra 1.7 Non-Adjustable Rocker Set
Hardened 7.500" Pushrods
Polluter Cam (24x/24x (.61x"/.61x") 112LSA)
All gaskets/bolts included
$2600
Upgrade to ARP head bolts $49.99
LS7 Lifters $109.99
Ported LS6 oil pump $114.99
Total 2,874.96 SHIPPED
Only thing I need to add is a LS2 timing set and lifter trays.($3008.91 with chain and lifter trays) Not sure what I want to go with now. I emailed Tick so I guess I'll see what they say. I wish there were more people running it so I could see different results. Tons of MS3/MS4/PRC LS6/5.3 info on this board.
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Get the aftermarket casting Trickflows over the LS6's for sure. 13.5 degree angle for the valves will net you more ptv clearance. In ur original post u mentioned Katech rod bolts. Unless your motor is high mileage already I'd steer clear of these and just don't spin the motor over 6500. If it were me I would get a custom cam made instead of the polluter cam. Something in the 230s range for both good drivability and under the curve power while still peaking relatively high in the powerband. I would also see about getting the heads milled some more to get ur compression up to 11.1:1 - 11.5:1 at least. That is easy power you are leaving on the table especially if you get a custom cam made with ptv clearance in mind you will have boatloads of space and easily more tq from higher compression. I'd substitute the yella terra's for comp cams trunion upgrade also. Stock rockers are engineered very well and are lighter on the tips than just about any aftermarket rocker and have been used on 1000+ rwhp motors with success for years. That alone would save you $300 prolly. Just my $.02..
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Get the aftermarket casting Trickflows over the LS6's for sure. 13.5 degree angle for the valves will net you more ptv clearance. In ur original post u mentioned Katech rod bolts. Unless your motor is high mileage already I'd steer clear of these and just don't spin the motor over 6500. If it were me I would get a custom cam made instead of the polluter cam. Something in the 230s range for both good drivability and under the curve power while still peaking relatively high in the powerband. I would also see about getting the heads milled some more to get ur compression up to 11.1:1 - 11.5:1 at least. That is easy power you are leaving on the table especially if you get a custom cam made with ptv clearance in mind you will have boatloads of space and easily more tq from higher compression. I'd substitute the yella terra's for comp cams trunion upgrade also. Stock rockers are engineered very well and are lighter on the tips than just about any aftermarket rocker and have been used on 1000+ rwhp motors with success for years. That alone would save you $300 prolly. Just my $.02..