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Old 02-07-2011, 09:36 PM
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Default My CNC'd Brodix IK210's came into today, pics!!!!

Ordered these about four weeks ago, Brodix cut the heats for reverse coolant flow and cnc'd them in house. At a .650 lift they flow 285 intake and 222 exhaust.
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Cool. Let us know how they work out.
Old 02-07-2011, 09:51 PM
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Thats stout, sure they will pick up great with some clean up work.
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thanks guys, They should make a world of a difference compared to my old strait out of the box 195 trick flows. Im very excited to see how they will do.
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What was the cost of these if you don't mind me asking?

I was planning on getting some AI ported Trickflows for my new build, but I'm always open to new ideas
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Damn. That's some pretty stuff. Those flow numbers don't seem to be all that great though. IIRC, my CNC'd AFR 210's flow 311/237 at .650"....according to AFR's website. Mine haven't been bench-tested.
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Originally Posted by qc97z
Damn. That's some pretty stuff. Those flow numbers don't seem to be all that great though. IIRC, my CNC'd AFR 210's flow 311/237 at .650"....according to AFR's website. Mine haven't been bench-tested.
flow numbers aren't everything.. and brodix probably flowed it with his bore..
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Originally Posted by qc97z
Damn. That's some pretty stuff. Those flow numbers don't seem to be all that great though. IIRC, my CNC'd AFR 210's flow 311/237 at .650"....according to AFR's website. Mine haven't been bench-tested.
Most website numbers are slightly misleading...not necessarily wrong, just under "ideal" conditions. A TON of variables go into bench testing. If you thought dyno numbers could be skewed, flow benches are even worse.

Fixture type, bore size, material used, pressure, pipes/extensions, etc can all have a dramatic effect on the numbers the bench spits out.

Also keep in mind the fact that most claimed flow numbers are with the heads at the largest chamber size available, and that milling down the heads can significantly lower flow.

After a milling my AFRs I had my heads flowed (to spec a cam for them) and they peaked 7% lower then the claimed numbers released by a very reputable and trustworthy shop after their porting. All that 7% loss was not due to the .030(~5cc) milling - I'm sure a lot of it was just from being tested on a different bench, using a clay fixture, and no pipe.
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they sure look pretty..
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Look fun!!! Cant wait to see the results!
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Originally Posted by Turnin20s
What was the cost of these if you don't mind me asking?

I was planning on getting some AI ported Trickflows for my new build, but I'm always open to new ideas
I cant really give you the exact number, my dad owns a machine shop and can get brodix at cost. I can tell you they were less than a set of AFR 210's untouched.
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Originally Posted by joshh123
flow numbers aren't everything.. and brodix probably flowed it with his bore..
alot of people get hung up on flow numbers
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Originally Posted by qc97z
Damn. That's some pretty stuff. Those flow numbers don't seem to be all that great though. IIRC, my CNC'd AFR 210's flow 311/237 at .650"....according to AFR's website. Mine haven't been bench-tested.
I talked to brodix and i was thinking about getting the 221 Track1 heads which cnc'd flowed some stupid high numbers. But he said they were so big i would loose some bottom end power and he recomemded the IK210's cnc'd for my combo, regardless they will be tons better than my old untouched trickflow 195's.
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Originally Posted by ReggieWarrenJr
I talked to brodix and i was thinking about getting the 221 Track1 heads which cnc'd flowed some stupid high numbers. But he said they were so big i would loose some bottom end power and he recomemded the IK210's cnc'd for my combo, regardless they will be tons better than my old untouched trickflow 195's.
On a 396, I bet those 221's would have rocked! I'm sure your car will still run great with the 210's though. You can sell off those TFS195's on here for $600-$700 assembled. They are perfect heads to send out to AI for their 215cc cnc package. Nice way to recoup some of the cost of the Brodix heads.
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Originally Posted by joelster
On a 396, I bet those 221's would have rocked! I'm sure your car will still run great with the 210's though. You can sell off those TFS195's on here for $600-$700 assembled. They are perfect heads to send out to AI for their 215cc cnc package. Nice way to recoup some of the cost of the Brodix heads.
Yeah i was really wanted the 221's but they were also like $500 more and they said the 210's will work great for the street.
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Originally Posted by joelster
On a 396, I bet those 221's would have rocked! I'm sure your car will still run great with the 210's though. You can sell off those TFS195's on here for $600-$700 assembled. They are perfect heads to send out to AI for their 215cc cnc package. Nice way to recoup some of the cost of the Brodix heads.
I wouldn't mind finding those for $600-$700. Seems like any "name" ported stock heads I see listed are that much.....with ones ported by lesser knowns still being about $500 and up.
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Originally Posted by ReggieWarrenJr
Yeah i was really wanted the 221's but they were also like $500 more and they said the 210's will work great for the street.
Do you run an auto or a T56?

FWIW a set of 195cc heads on a 350 cube engine will behave very similar to a set of 220cc heads on a 396 all things being equal. Big cubes require bigger ports to support them. A 210cc port feeding 396 cubes is similar to 186cc port feeding a 350. Should make great power down low but not necessarily want to rev really high.
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Originally Posted by joelster
Do you run an auto or a T56?

FWIW a set of 195cc heads on a 350 cube engine will behave very similar to a set of 220cc heads on a 396 all things being equal. Big cubes require bigger ports to support them. A 210cc port feeding 396 cubes is similar to 186cc port feeding a 350. Should make great power down low but not necessarily want to rev really high.
Its a auto, TH350. Thats exactly what what they said, im not going to be spining it very high, 7000rpm at the most.
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getting the trick flows ported would have been a better option.
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Originally Posted by toby
getting the trick flows ported would have been a better option.
Enlighten us. You obviously have experience with both heads?


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