Street Racing & Kill Stories - 2000 Z28 vs Chevelle (BBC+F1) **vids**
WSsick
02-20-2011, 06:38 PM
Friend of mine wanted to get some runs in this weekend while he was in town, so a Terminator and Chevelle stepped up.
Don't know many details about the Chevelle other than it's got an F1 Procharged 540ci BBC in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd_tzBN1KEc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnZT0MwMWOI
Camaro broke #5 piston on the last run, so they didn't get any more runs in, or with the Cobra. I'll tell the Camaro guy to post up in here (same guy as the LS1 Ram if you remember that thread).
ScreaminRedZ
02-20-2011, 07:20 PM
Cool lineup! I know you said you don't know much about the Chevelle, but what are the specs on the Z28?
GatorFan08
02-20-2011, 07:56 PM
Nice cars... more details on the Chevelle?
WSsick
02-20-2011, 08:36 PM
Cool lineup! I know you said you don't know much about the Chevelle, but what are the specs on the Z28?
Even though I already told you in a text, I'll let everyone else in:
-H/C LS2, makes 45x rwhp, 3600 stall, 3.73 gears, and some weight loss. This run was on a 75 shot.
Nice cars... more details on the Chevelle?
The guy is apparently super sketchy all the time and doesn't let anyone know much. A 540ci BBC with an F1 on it has to make some serious power, stalled auto obviously.
The Manalishi
02-20-2011, 10:19 PM
Looks like good times.
07 z71 silverado
02-20-2011, 10:34 PM
chevelle doesnt seem that fast for a f1 540 big block lol.
TooMuchMoney
02-20-2011, 10:38 PM
chevelle doesnt seem that fast for a f1 540 big block lol.
Seems like a big turd. I would be pissed if I got beat by a H/C Z28 with just a 75 shot on it. Not saying the Camaro is a turd at all, its just when you hear Big Block with F1 you think it would run harder than that.
07 z71 silverado
02-20-2011, 10:51 PM
Seems like a big turd. I would be pissed if I got beat by a H/C Z28 with just a 75 shot on it. Not saying the Camaro is a turn its just when you hear Big Block with F1 you think it would run harder than that.
Yea I was kinda expecting something like this from the chevelle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPkSlhYWOe4&feature=feedf
GatorFan08
02-20-2011, 11:06 PM
+1. I didnt wanna say anything, but I felt like the Chevelle should have walked the camaro. Not taking anything away from the maro, but BBC+F1= nasty
TooMuchMoney
02-20-2011, 11:15 PM
Yea I was kinda expecting something like this from the chevelle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPkSlhYWOe4&feature=feedf
Thats what I was wanting to see.
The Manalishi
02-20-2011, 11:20 PM
Yea I was kinda expecting something like this from the chevelle.
That thing moved out. The Chevelle is probably a low boost, low compression cruiser. If it is a supercharged big block.
WSsick
02-21-2011, 07:58 AM
The Camaro has ran a 10.5 @ 127 on motor, 10.3s @ 132 spinning on the 75 shot. It rolls out on cars people think it shouldn't. I'll dig up the thread before his old setup, people had a hard time believing it was what he said it was.
LTXBOI
02-21-2011, 08:06 AM
Friend of mine wanted to get some runs in this weekend while he was in town, so a Terminator and Chevelle stepped up.
Don't know many details about the Chevelle other than it's got an F1 Procharged 540ci BBC in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd_tzBN1KEc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnZT0MwMWOI
Camaro broke #5 piston on the last run, so they didn't get any more runs in, or with the Cobra. I'll tell the Camaro guy to post up in here (same guy as the LS1 Ram if you remember that thread).
If that a BBC+F1 he needs tranny and rearend beefed up.....i've seen races with less, pull harder than that!
is it a stock BBC....:confused:
thunderstruck507
02-21-2011, 08:09 AM
If the camaro runs that hard I'm not surprised at all.
It's amazing the number of improperly built/tuned big blocks roaming the road. They think they're Gods gift until they get curb stomped by a little pump gas small block.
Beans
02-21-2011, 08:26 AM
Considering he blew a piston after about 5 seconds wide open on the last run, the BBC was either tuned or built (or both) poorly.
That mustang was awesome. Street car with a chute, i love it!
WSsick
02-21-2011, 09:04 AM
If the camaro runs that hard I'm not surprised at all.
It's amazing the number of improperly built/tuned big blocks roaming the road. They think they're Gods gift until they get curb stomped by a little pump gas small block.
Brad, the owner of the Camaro texted me after it and said "The replacement for displacement is LS2!" :lol:
WSsick
02-21-2011, 09:08 AM
Here's Brad's Camaro (back when it made 424rwhp) running against some much more powerful cars. His car has always been a pretty hard runner: http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/multimedia-exchange/1250038-my-turbo-ss-vs-whipple-cobra-vs-n-z28-t76-gto-vs-n-z28.html
Forgot to mention, he drove the damn car home 100 miles yesterday with the cracked #5. :lol:
Beans
02-21-2011, 09:19 AM
Forgot to mention, he drove the damn car home 100 miles yesterday with the cracked #5. :lol:
:bang::bang::bang:
PewterScreaminMach
02-21-2011, 09:30 AM
Nice runs.
CoolAid
02-21-2011, 11:43 AM
Sick.
10.5 @ 450rwhp is putting it down.
WSsick
02-21-2011, 12:14 PM
:bang::bang::bang:
Got home safe, and a stock piston is on it's way to him now. He said he's going to make a couple changes too, but nothing too serious.
bamaballa205
02-21-2011, 12:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPkSlhYWOe4&feature=feedf[/QUOTE]
Now that's SICK!!!!!
bamaballa205
02-21-2011, 12:28 PM
Lookin at the other vids. The camaro looks pretty strong.
ScreaminRedZ
02-21-2011, 12:30 PM
Damn Sean, your thread is being totally :hump: into submission by the video of that sick ass notchback.
dkbmxer002
02-21-2011, 12:40 PM
not knocking either cars but like said.. that chevelle is not built to anywhere near its full potential.
Beans
02-21-2011, 01:24 PM
Got home safe, and a stock piston is on it's way to him now. He said he's going to make a couple changes too, but nothing too serious.
Seems like that car needs more than a couple changes to run like a blown BBC should.
A set of forged pistons wouldn't be a bad start
07 z71 silverado
02-21-2011, 01:38 PM
Damn Sean, your thread is being totally :hump: into submission by the video of that sick ass notchback.
hehe :D
WSsick
02-21-2011, 03:20 PM
Damn Sean, your thread is being totally :hump: into submission by the video of that sick ass notchback.
No kidding. :lol: Oh well, I'm not bothered. :)
Seems like that car needs more than a couple changes to run like a blown BBC should.
A set of forged pistons wouldn't be a bad start
The Chevelle may not be running to it's potential, but it wasn't running bad either. Brad's car just runs damn hard. It's a big sleeper too, stock exhaust after the heads, snowflakes, got all 4 seats still in it.
We were talking yesterday and there might be a set of forged pistons in the works down the road.
LTXBOI
02-21-2011, 03:35 PM
Yea I was kinda expecting something like this from the chevelle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPkSlhYWOe4&feature=feedf
GOD DANMMMM!!!!:eek2:
00silverGTP
02-21-2011, 05:42 PM
nice. camaro ran good.
why not edit into one video? lol
WSsick
02-21-2011, 07:26 PM
nice. camaro ran good.
why not edit into one video? lol
Not my vids.
Marc 85Z28
02-21-2011, 07:28 PM
No H/C LS2 with a small shot is going to run with even a hacked together F1 blown 540" Chevelle :suspiciou I bet it's just a pump gas naturally aspirated BBC.
WSsick
02-21-2011, 07:42 PM
No H/C LS2 with a small shot is going to run with even a hacked together F1 blown 540" Chevelle :suspiciou I bet it's just a pump gas naturally aspirated BBC.
That's funny, because it just happened...and it was on video. Did you see my post with the link to the other thread? Even when it had 424rwhp, it ran with turbo cars. If it's just a poorly setup combo or just mild boost this could easily be the answer. It probably weighed nearing 4000lbs, and the Camaro weighs MUCH less. It usually takes at least 100rwhp, if not more for a car to run with Brad's.
snake95
02-21-2011, 08:14 PM
Sean, you're a homo.
You know why.
ScreaminRedZ
02-21-2011, 08:18 PM
Is it because of that picture you have of that thing of yours in his mouth?
WSsick
02-21-2011, 08:20 PM
Sean, you're a homo.
You know why.
Wut??
snake95
02-21-2011, 08:37 PM
Wut??
Don't play stupid with me, boy, has Mach Boy noticed yet? :jest:
WSsick
02-21-2011, 08:40 PM
Don't play stupid with me, boy, has Mach Boy noticed yet? :jest:
I can't imagine what you mean? I don't think Rob's been on yet.
TooMuchMoney
02-21-2011, 09:07 PM
I can't imagine what you mean? I don't think Rob's been on yet.
Lol nice location.
BOBS99SS
02-21-2011, 09:23 PM
Notch is pretty sick,that chevelle is weak as all hell,
WSsick
02-21-2011, 09:39 PM
Lol nice location.
It's the truth. :engarde:
snake95
02-21-2011, 09:46 PM
Until you sell that hunk of shit :) There will be a period of time when I am faster! Then Cam + Eddy RPM = I would've wanted revenge against the Camaro!
WSsick
02-21-2011, 09:49 PM
Until you sell that hunk of shit :) There will be a period of time when I am faster! Then Cam + Eddy RPM = I would've wanted revenge against the Camaro!
Do it by Sunday! :lol: Need to see if Rob wants to get a run in before then.
dkbmxer002
02-21-2011, 10:07 PM
The Chevelle may not be running to it's potential, but it wasn't running bad either. Brad's car just runs damn hard. It's a big sleeper too, stock exhaust after the heads, snowflakes, got all 4 seats still in it.
We were talking yesterday and there might be a set of forged pistons in the works down the road.
that's fine but if that chevelle was setup properly i could see that setup done right going 8's.....
WSsick
02-21-2011, 10:26 PM
that's fine but if that chevelle was setup properly i could see that setup done right going 8's.....
And if my car was stripped to the bones, with a 9" and 4.56s with some extra bolt-ons & tires I could run low 11s/high 10s...but that's not the case is it? Nope.
Irrelevant points are just that, irrelevant. It wasn't setup to run to it's full potential, but it's obviously a decent setup if it's trapping in the 130s.
Beans
02-21-2011, 10:31 PM
it's trapping in the 130s.
Is it?
I mean really, does he have 130+ slips?
That camaro shouldn't be in the 130s, and neither should anyone running door to door with him.
WSsick
02-21-2011, 10:47 PM
Is it?
I mean really, does he have 130+ slips?
That camaro shouldn't be in the 130s, and neither should anyone running door to door with him.
Ok, I was wrong to assume but the Camaro is trapping in the 130s (132 best, with slips/vids) and running door to door with it means he is damn close if not trapping 130+. Like I said before, the Camaro runs with cars it shouldn't. Did you see the thread I posted running turbo LSX's/cobras?
dkbmxer002
02-21-2011, 11:09 PM
And if my car was stripped to the bones, with a 9" and 4.56s with some extra bolt-ons & tires I could run low 11s/high 10s...but that's not the case is it? Nope.
Irrelevant points are just that, irrelevant. It wasn't setup to run to it's full potential, but it's obviously a decent setup if it's trapping in the 130s.
i'm not talking about changing anything about the chevelle.. just going off the info YOU gave us. that thing is slow compared to what it SHOULD be. like i said he ran his runs, but a 540ci f1 powerglide chevelle should be much faster than that car, period.
dkbmxer002
02-21-2011, 11:10 PM
Ok, I was wrong to assume but the Camaro is trapping in the 130s (132 best, with slips/vids) and running door to door with it means he is damn close if not trapping 130+. Like I said before, the Camaro runs with cars it shouldn't. Did you see the thread I posted running turbo LSX's/cobras?
no it doesn't. the street is different than a track pass.
WSsick
02-21-2011, 11:15 PM
i'm not talking about changing anything about the chevelle.. just going off the info YOU gave us. that thing is slow compared to what it SHOULD be. like i said he ran his runs, but a 540ci f1 powerglide chevelle should be much faster than that car, period.
Without anymore details on the setup, who knows what it should do? The owner won't say shit about it. All we know is it's a 540ci BBC with an F1 and an auto. It could be a mild setup, low boost (which sucks for that big blower), could be an F1C and not F1R, gear could suck, etc. The Cobra that the Camaro was supposed to run runs 10.5s @ 130, and the Chevelle slightly edged it out from what I've heard. I don't like using comparisons usually, but take it or leave it.
Like I said, it usually takes 100rwhp more than Brad is making to beat him, more like 150 or 200 in a heavy car. That means like 670-720rwhp for the Chevelle, since that Camaro makes ~520 on spray. ~700rwhp isn't too shabby, though it could be MUCH more, hence why I said it could be a mild setup.
Basically, you should have said COULD instead of SHOULD in your post. (see bold)
WSsick
02-21-2011, 11:24 PM
no it doesn't. the street is different than a track pass.
Like I said, I was wrong to assume the Chevelle traps 130...but the Camaro does so it's obviously in the same neighborhood.
Here's the Camaro back when it only made 424rwhp destroying a 576rwhp GTO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-TKYrnww-0
Running close with a (Cobra has a Whipple):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peaqMexuAHE
And here's it running door to door with a 408:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcbMUNhOgrk
dkbmxer002
02-21-2011, 11:25 PM
Without anymore details on the setup, who knows what it should do? The owner won't say shit about it. All we know is it's a 540ci BBC with an F1 and an auto. It could be a mild setup, low boost (which sucks for that big blower), could be an F1C and not F1R, gear could suck, etc. The Cobra that the Camaro was supposed to run runs 10.5s @ 130, and the Chevelle slightly edged it out from what I've heard. I don't like using comparisons usually, but take it or leave it.
Like I said, it usually takes 100rwhp more than Brad is making to beat him, more like 150 or 200 in a heavy car. That means like 670-720rwhp for the Chevelle, since that Camaro makes ~520 on spray. ~700rwhp isn't too shabby, though it could be MUCH more, hence why I said it could be a mild setup.
Basically, you should have said COULD instead of SHOULD in your post. (see bold)
and with that information a 540ci powerglide f1 chevelle isn't running worth a shit if it is only running 10.5's or slower by that math.. since like you said on the second run your buddy blew a hole in his piston and the chevelle was still right there....
and since when is the chevelle much heavier than a typical fbody..? they are somewhere like 3600-3700 pounds...
and no, it SHOULD be faster, period. despite all this ricer math.
Beans
02-21-2011, 11:27 PM
Ok, I was wrong to assume but the Camaro is trapping in the 130s (132 best, with slips/vids) and running door to door with it means he is damn close if not trapping 130+. Like I said before, the Camaro runs with cars it shouldn't. Did you see the thread I posted running turbo LSX's/cobras?
Shit, i forgot about the 75 shot.
520 through an auto is some legit power, which explains the 132 traps.
I'm sure the big block is damn quick on the street, it's just that when you think F1/540/glide you think liter bike slayer, not 130 traps.
dkbmxer002
02-21-2011, 11:27 PM
so a heads cam intake 408 only makes about 424hp....?
WSsick
02-21-2011, 11:35 PM
and with that information a 540ci powerglide f1 chevelle isn't running worth a shit if it is only running 10.5's or slower by that math.. since like you said on the second run your buddy blew a hole in his piston and the chevelle was still right there....
I never said it had a powerglide, you are just assuming that. Go back and look at my posts, never once mentioned a glide. You can actually see the point where he blows the piston if you watch the reflection in the Chevelle. It goes just before the end of the run, as the Camaro was coming around him.
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and since when is the chevelle much heavier than a typical fbody..? they are somewhere like 3600-3700 pounds...
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Since the Camaro probably* weighs 3000lbs with the driver in it.
*educated guess, but not positive. A source very close to him is where I heard it from.
I refuse to say it SHOULD be faster since you don't know about the details. A local guy had a Procharged cammed LS2 goat and only made 480rwhp...stalled auto on 5lbs...it COULD be faster, but isn't because the owner didn't want to go all out. Not everyone runs their car to it's potential. Some people leave stuff on the table.
Shit, i forgot about the 75 shot.
520 through an auto is some legit power, which explains the 132 traps.
I'm sure the big block is damn quick on the street, it's just that when you think F1/540/glide you think liter bike slayer, not 130 traps.
No one said glide, except this guy. I wish he'd tell us what he's run, but he super secretive about it. The Camaro still traps 127 on motor. His worst 60' is like a 1.6x.
so a heads cam intake 408 only makes about 424hp....?
No, but like I said, his car weighs a lot less than most so it takes a good bit of extra power to take him down. The 408 probably makes 500-520ish.
dkbmxer002
02-21-2011, 11:39 PM
I never said it had a powerglide, you are just assuming that. Go back and look at my posts, never once mentioned a glide. You can actually see the point where he blows the piston if you watch the reflection in the Chevelle. It goes just before the end of the run, as the Camaro was coming around him.
and since when is the chevelle much heavier than a typical fbody..? they are somewhere like 3600-3700 pounds...
Since the Camaro probably* weighs 3000lbs with the driver in it.
*educated guess, but not positive. A source very close to him is where I heard it from.
No one said glide, except this guy. I wish he'd tell us what he's run, but he super secretive about it. The Camaro still traps 127 on motor. His worst 60' is like a 1.6x.
No, but like I said, his car weighs a lot less than most so it takes a good bit of extra power to take him down. The 408 probably makes 500-520ish.
assuming? how many times did he shift...? from a low roll he left in third? or fourth? really...?
also you think from a roll the car is going to run the exact same as a dig on a prepped track..?
i'm willing to bet that camaro doesn't weigh 3000 pounds with him in it. and what's to say the chevelle isn't much lighter than stock..?
WSsick
02-21-2011, 11:47 PM
assuming? how many times did he shift...? from a low roll he left in third? or fourth? really...?
also you think from a roll the car is going to run the exact same as a dig on a prepped track..?
i'm willing to bet that camaro doesn't weigh 3000 pounds with him in it.
So wait, you can assume things from the video but I can't? Quit making assumptions if you don't like me making them. That makes you a hypocrite. I never once said that they will run the exact same from a roll as at the track. Try to find a post where I said so. Would you rather me just post vids and no info of the car? Traps are good info to have when watching a roll race, but by no means the only thing you want to base your predictions off. I would probably agree with you that it is running a glide based off the video but I don't want to assume to much.
Like I said, I can't say for sure what it weighs, but someone in the family told me what apparently the owner told him, You'd be surprised at all the stuff he has taken out though, he gets down to some real bullshit. :lol:
I added some to my last post in bold.
dkbmxer002
02-21-2011, 11:55 PM
So wait, you can assume things from the video but I can't? Quit making assumptions if you don't like me making them. That makes you a hypocrite. I never once said that they will run the exact same from a roll as at the track. Try to find a post where I said so. Would you rather me just post vids and no info of the car? Traps are good info to have when watching a roll race, but by no means the only thing you want to base your predictions off. I would probably agree with you that it is running a glide based off the video but I don't want to assume to much.
Like I said, I can't say for sure what it weighs, but someone in the family told me what apparently the owner told him, You'd be surprised at all the stuff he has taken out though, he gets down to some real bullshit. :lol:
I added some to my last post in bold.
there is no assumption in the fucking shifting. it's simple, how many times did he shift? and yes you did, you said at the track he runs 10.5's and keep comparing that to these street runs.
be surprised? i know what it takes to get an fbody down to weight. apparently you don't.
The Manalishi
02-21-2011, 11:57 PM
WSsick I think everyone's problem is that Chevelle is a slug for what it has. It is probably a low boost low compression cruiser like I said earlier in the thread but I don't know. It damn sure doesn't run like the combo should if it is optimized.
WSsick
02-22-2011, 12:03 AM
there is no assumption in the fucking shifting. it's simple, how many times did he shift? and yes you did, you said at the track he runs 10.5's and keep comparing that to these street runs.
be surprised? i know what it takes to get an fbody down to weight. apparently you don't.
10.5s on motor...these runs were on spray.
Just asked him, I was given bad info. It weighs 3258 (his girlfriend's brother is who told me 3000 with him). I know what it takes, I've looked into it. Brad doesn't usually spill whats done to it or taken out, so I was never sure what all was done. +1 passenger and some extra shit for this race so add like 250 he says to that for this race.
The Chevelle didn't spin, so it probably ran pretty damn hard, within the ballpark of what it would at the track. ETs wouldn't be similar, but traps are a nice starting point for how a race could (not will) turn out.
WSsick I think everyone's problem is that Chevelle is a slug for what it has. It is probably a low boost low compression cruiser like I said earlier in the thread but I don't know. It damn sure doesn't run like the combo should if it is optimized.
Thank you. That is what I have been saying this whole time, but apparently people think everything runs fully optimized 100% of the time.
dkbmxer002
02-22-2011, 12:14 AM
3258 is much different than 3000 race weight. i would still like an explanation as to why a 408 h/c/i fbody couldn't pull away from a 424hp fbody...
facts are that chevelle is fucking slow for a 540ci, f1 powerglide setup. if you choose to run at a lower potential that doesn't change that your fucking setup is weak.
silverz28camaro
02-22-2011, 12:17 AM
LOL, you guys are funny. always arguing....here are the facts
My camaro is a 451 on motor, 75 shot 519 on the spray, so what 69 shot?
car weighs 3258lbs before the nitrous kit, add 30lbs, passenger , full tank of gas, 3258 was almost empty, I have a stock 4l60e converter in my trunck, (50lbs) My #5 did not melt, it chipped the ring land usually due to the top ring expanding to much from heat, MY FAULT, I ahould have replaced the stock fuel pump 150 hp ago.
The Chevelle ran very strong, most likely traps 131ish, He is very secretive about his setup, but it is supercharged with a 540 Cu.in. motor, runs a gear venders overdrive, ? gears ? hp ? weigh, but guessing car is 3700, but he had his two kids with him and wife I think.
Bottom line is he saw my car thought he could let me go first and blow past.. wasn't the case, second race he flags it off, if you look close at me shadow in his door you can see my front wheel creeping up to his door/fender seem, as soon as you see my front wheel fall back is when I felt my motor cut out and I was on 7 cylinders, keep watching and my car still creeps back up to his door seem.
dkbmxer002
02-22-2011, 12:18 AM
slow.
WSsick
02-22-2011, 12:18 AM
3258 is much different than 3000 race weight. i would still like an explanation as to why a 408 h/c/i fbody couldn't pull away from a 424hp fbody...
The 3258 was with him in it, so it's still damn light. 408 could have been built with an iron block adding weight and it could be a full weight car, so 3600+ with driver wouldn't surprise me. I don't remember if it was a 6 speed, but could have been bad shifting, bad gearing, etc.
facts are that chevelle is fucking slow for a 540ci, f1 powerglide setup. if you choose to run at a lower potential that doesn't change that your fucking setup is weak.
Agreed on all accounts, just saying there wasn't anything wrong with it (mechanically).
silverz28camaro
02-22-2011, 12:21 AM
Is it?
I mean really, does he have 130+ slips?
That camaro shouldn't be in the 130s, and neither should anyone running door to door with him.
Why not? haven't you even seen posts from chrs1313? his car is a heads cam LS1 that runs 10.00 @ 130, off spray, his car is at 3000lbs, so why wouldn't my LS2 heads cam on a 75 hit not trap 130 at minimal...?
Just because your car can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done...
dkbmxer002
02-22-2011, 12:22 AM
turtle.
silverz28camaro
02-22-2011, 12:23 AM
3258 is much different than 3000 race weight. i would still like an explanation as to why a 408 h/c/i fbody couldn't pull away from a 424hp fbody...
facts are that chevelle is fucking slow for a 540ci, f1 powerglide setup. if you choose to run at a lower potential that doesn't change that your fucking setup is weak.
I think he had a stock MAF meter.....:D
silverz28camaro
02-22-2011, 12:23 AM
turtle.
your car looks like it needs a anti roll bar.....BAD
:chug:
WSsick
02-22-2011, 12:24 AM
Why not? haven't you even seen posts from chrs1313? his car is a heads cam LS1 that runs 10.00 @ 130, off spray, his car is at 3000lbs, so why wouldn't my LS2 heads cam on a 75 hit not trap 130 at minimal...?
Just because your car can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done...
Brad, to be fair he did correct himself in this post:
Shit, i forgot about the 75 shot.
520 through an auto is some legit power, which explains the 132 traps.
I'm sure the big block is damn quick on the street, it's just that when you think F1/540/glide you think liter bike slayer, not 130 traps.
dkbmxer002
02-22-2011, 12:25 AM
your car looks like it needs a anti roll bar.....BAD
:chug:
it did 2 years ago, i put a wolfe in about a month or two after those runs. not many people can say they pulled a 1.4x 60 foot with no sway bar/anti roll bar and no bags installed what so ever.
silverz28camaro
02-22-2011, 12:28 AM
it did 2 years ago, i put a wolfe in about a month or two after those runs. not many people can say they pulled a 1.4x 60 foot with no sway bar/anti roll bar and no bags installed what so ever.
I did a 1.47... then after the anti roll bar it did a 1.42, Plus I love the way it handles now, mine is the trz kit
dkbmxer002
02-22-2011, 12:31 AM
I did a 1.47... then after the anti roll bar it did a 1.42, Plus I love the way it handles now, mine is the trz kit
did you have the stock one installed? because i didn't have ANYTHING.
silverz28camaro
02-22-2011, 12:34 AM
did you have the stock one installed? because i didn't have ANYTHING.
It was right after I installed my 12 bolt, I didn't have the right u-bolts for the axle tube diameter, launched it and twisted just like your car in your avatar...and it handled like shit..went home after the first pass, i didn't even complete the pass, let out at the 1/8
whats your best time?
dkbmxer002
02-22-2011, 12:37 AM
It was right after I installed my 12 bolt, I didn't have the right u-bolts for the axle tube diameter, launched it and twisted just like your car in your avatar...and it handled like shit..went home after the first pass, i didn't even complete the pass, let out at the 1/8
whats your best time?
lol i had the same problem when i did my 9 inch. in those vids it went mid 6's on a 150 shot, stock heads and a smaller cam than i have now.
silverz28camaro
02-22-2011, 12:40 AM
lol i had the same problem when i did my 9 inch. in those vids it went mid 6's on a 150 shot, stock heads and a smaller cam than i have now.
Nice, I think my stock mid pipe may be holding me back a bit, it is the factory 2.7/8 in piping. chrs1313 did a flowmaster merge and a 4 inch turndown and gaind almost 30 ft.lbs in the mid range. plus with nitrous a free flowing exhaust may help get the heat out and keep detonation down...I need a few things before I race this guy again, he wants a rematch bad. I'm not doing another neon roll, its digs or nothing next time
WSsick
02-22-2011, 12:46 AM
Brad, if you opened up that exhaust with a Y and a cutout I bet you'd see an easy 15-20hp with as choked as your exhaust is. You'll definitely have Jill's Cobra from a dig if she shows up again too. Isn't she married to 1badfox?
See if you can get some more details from him next time about his car.
silverz28camaro
02-22-2011, 12:57 AM
Brad, if you opened up that exhaust with a Y and a cutout I bet you'd see an easy 15-20hp with as choked as your exhaust is. You'll definitely have Jill's Cobra from a dig if she shows up again too. Isn't she married to 1badfox?
See if you can get some more details from him next time about his car.
The guy in the chevelle will not talk about his car, jill and ken(1badfox) are married.
WSsick
02-22-2011, 01:05 AM
Thought so. Looking forward to the reruns. :)
TooMuchMoney
02-22-2011, 10:02 AM
Why are you just running a 75? Why not a 100-125 its just as safe as long as you got a 255 you should be good to go. Your car moves the fuck out with that weight reduction just like it should I really don't see how it hard to believe. I guess too many people are stuck in the 12's.
WSsick
02-22-2011, 10:08 AM
^His car is on the stock fuel pump, as he mentioned.
TooMuchMoney
02-22-2011, 11:01 AM
^His car is on the stock fuel pump, as he mentioned.
Gotcha, well I don't see how you can spend all that time on weight reduction but you can't spend a hour dropping a fuel tank and installing a 255 so you could of really embarrassed those other cars with a 125 or 150 shot of dope. But to each there own, never the less car still moves out and gets the job done.
Marc 85Z28
02-22-2011, 12:31 PM
That's funny, because it just happened...and it was on video. Did you see my post with the link to the other thread? Even when it had 424rwhp, it ran with turbo cars. If it's just a poorly setup combo or just mild boost this could easily be the answer. It probably weighed nearing 4000lbs, and the Camaro weighs MUCH less. It usually takes at least 100rwhp, if not more for a car to run with Brad's.
That's funny, because all I saw was a Chevelle. I didn't see a BBC or a Procharger, and it most certainly didn't sound like an F1 was on there, much less run like one.
I don't care what turbo cars it beat, or how much extra power you think someone needs to run with that car. Even at 3800+lbs a mild 540 should go bottom 10s, which is enough to go door to door with that Camaro like the video showed.
Forget about the low boost excuse. Even a mild pump gas naturally aspirated 540 at 3800+ should go 130.
silverz28camaro
02-22-2011, 12:33 PM
Why are you just running a 75? Why not a 100-125 its just as safe as long as you got a 255 you should be good to go. Your car moves the fuck out with that weight reduction just like it should I really don't see how it hard to believe. I guess too many people are stuck in the 12's.
new pump is in the works, the a/f was always good on the dyno, so I just let it slide, my fault, it caught up to me.
WSsick
02-22-2011, 12:47 PM
That's funny, because all I saw was a Chevelle. I didn't see a BBC or a Procharger, and it most certainly didn't sound like an F1 was on there, much less run like one.
I don't care what turbo cars it beat, or how much extra power you think someone needs to run with that car. Even at 3800+lbs a mild 540 should go bottom 10s, which is enough to go door to door with that Camaro like the video showed.
Forget about the low boost excuse. Even a mild pump gas naturally aspirated 540 at 3800+ should go 130s.
The owner said that it is a 540ci BBC with an F1...so unless he decided to lie, that's what I'll stick with. :thumb:
TooMuchMoney
02-22-2011, 02:34 PM
Lol why is Marc still talking about that damn car? Who cares what it has, its a old ass dude who thinks its still 1974 and thinks its cool as hell to hide his super secrect 540ci with a F1 mods and what it puts down. And the fact that he was neck and neck with a gutted F-Body with bolt on's and a 75 shot of dope is sad if he really has all that money and mods in that car and it only runs that good. You can bet your sweet ass if that was me racing him I would put that video up on YouTube and talk shit on him on tech. The race was almost dead even both cars are sick its just one has a lot less money in it and it was right there with him. The whole woulda, coulda, shoulda shit is usless to say, you saw the race and the out come. Its street racing "Run Wat Ya Brung"!
ScreaminRedZ
02-22-2011, 05:46 PM
Alot of anger in this thread.
Marc 85Z28
02-22-2011, 06:31 PM
Lol why is Marc still talking about that damn car?
Because that's what this thread is about, dumbass!
I say put a fuel pump in the Camaro, up it to a 150 and go after some "weak" Pro Mods. I think it has a chance...
TooMuchMoney
02-22-2011, 06:50 PM
Because that's what this thread is about, dumbass!
I say put a fuel pump in the Camaro, up it to a 150 and go after some "weak" Pro Mods. I think it has a chance...
You have fun with your pro mods as I can see they run real hard and all.
69chevelleSS
02-22-2011, 08:59 PM
Wow that Chevelle is slow as hell..
If you get a chance check out Bob West '72 chevelle with a NA pump gas 496 in it. Runs 9.9s all day 3800lb car. NA 540s run 9.4s built correctly and with a f1 8s are very possible.
As said before there are A LOT of poorly built BBC out there. This is a prime example. I would bet the Guy threw a off the shelf engine together put a supercharger on it and thinks its unbeatable. Perhaps he was Only running his street setup to set up another race later on in which it will be on kill. By the sound of the engine I think its very mildly built or tuned down for the street. Its also possible he has a high rearend gear and improper convertor hurting the setup even more.
The camaro is rolling out for sure and the weight helps a lot. Keep on slaying those mustangs I love it!
stumprrp
02-26-2011, 09:42 AM
are you guys all 12 year old or something? both cars are badass period. i dont know about anyone else but i rather own a vintage car like a chevelle then any F body including my own. im sure the guy doesnt give a shit if a 2000 z28 almost beat his car in a highway roll race lol...
another note, sounds like that converter is damn loose in the velle or he just rolled in 3rd the whole time
unit213
02-26-2011, 11:32 AM
The Camaro has ran a 10.5 @ 127 on motor, 10.3s @ 132 spinning on the 75 shot. It rolls out on cars people think it shouldn't. I'll dig up the thread before his old setup, people had a hard time believing it was what he said it was.
A 540cid BBC with a F1 should eat that car for brunch. The Chevelle should run that 10.30 in reverse with that setup.
WSsick
02-26-2011, 11:32 AM
Brad (silverz28camaro) told me last night that the owner of the Chevelle just told him that his car made 1000+rwhp...so this thing probably did have something wrong with it in some way.
Beans
02-26-2011, 11:42 AM
Brad (silverz28camaro) told me last night that the owner of the Chevelle just told him that his car made 1000+rwhp...so this thing probably did have something wrong with it in some way.
I don't even know what to say...besides that i question the credibility of the Chevelle owner.
What could have been that wrong with it? Even with a dead hole a 1000rwhp chevelle should lay waste to most things.
WSsick
02-26-2011, 11:51 AM
I'm surprised he even told since he's supposedly super sneaky about his car. He told the Cobra owner the day of the race to put her phone away so she couldn't take any pictures when he popped the hood...but now he's giving out hp numbers?? :confused:
Brad: "That guy in the chevelle thinks i have a 440 ls, he said the chevelle has 1020 rwhp"
Beans
02-26-2011, 11:55 AM
I'm surprised he even told since he's supposedly super sneaky about his car. He told the Cobra owner the day of the race to put her phone away so she couldn't take any pictures when he popped the hood...but now he's giving out hp numbers?? :confused:
Brad: "That guy in the chevelle thinks i have a 440 ls, he said the chevelle has 1020 rwhp"
Smells like horse shit to me.
1000rwhp through a stalled auto is high 8s low 9s at 150+
Who won't let a pic be taken but gives out a tell-all number? I call BS on this chevelle owner.
WSsick
02-26-2011, 12:11 PM
I call BS on this chevelle owner.
:lol: Probably the best choice. I can only feed the info that I was given, so who knows.
dkbmxer002
02-26-2011, 12:14 PM
i'm gonna guess that chevelle is a pump gas stock 454 with an f1 or something lol and the owner loves fucking with people.
GatorFan08
02-26-2011, 12:28 PM
i'm gonna guess that chevelle is a pump gas stock 454 with an f1 or something lol and the owner loves fucking with people.
+1, I could see this happening