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Old 02-22-2011, 01:57 PM
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Hey guys I was posting in another thread in here and an issue with my insurance came to mind and I haven't done much about it since this issue first arose at the very end of December, but maybe one of you will know how to fix this?


Somehow I used to pay $99 a month (liability only on my 98 v6 bird), then someone backed into my headlight cover in July when I wasn't around, I chose not to file a claim due to liability only, mentioned it in passing one day while on the phone with my company, the woman I spoke with was a SUPERVISOR and told me my policy might still cover and that I should file a claim anyways. Me being young and dumb listened, found out a few days later I was right, my policy DOESN'T cover that, so now there's a claim on my record they encouraged me to do and that somehow more than doubled my rates

The only things on my record are an incident January 3rd 2010 when a lady hit me when I was turning into a middle lane. It was night time and I couldnt see well to the right due to a UHaul truck parked on the curb impairing a lot of my vision. It was long struggle but I was found to be at fault for written law. I had been on my parents policy at the time. I got my own 2 months later and that's when it was $99, with the accident on record. Then a guy in a Silverado backed into me March 27th last year when I was parked. He was found at fault, no change to my rates. Then that headlight incident happened and I had cancelled my insurance right before I filed the claim because I was living on my own in CA and couldnt afford the expense

I came back to Texas almost two months ago and my mom and I looked to put me on her policy and it was $200+ a month!!! WTF

In September I got a pretty bad speeding ticket that I had posted about getting out of, earlier this month. Im not sure if it was on my record at the time and THAT was why it was so high, but the case was thrown out and not on my record. I had another ticket but it was taken care of and also not on my record. So what's the deal? Anyone have any ideas? Is it possible to do something to get that filed headlight claim off my record? I'm really pissed at myself for doing that and not trusting my instincts, but what's a teenage guy living on his own to think when a supervisor at his insurance company (Was Progressive) tells him he could actually be covered for that damage? *sigh*

Thanks for any input ahead of time btw!
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Switch insurance companies, look around and check prices. Most quotes are also based on your credit, so if that is bad plan on paying more.
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All gave me similar quotes though IIRC. And I have no established credit either so it cant be that
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I work with an insurance agent, so first being that you haven't established credit still affects you, plus you would be known as a high risk customer. I don't know why your rate doubled, but they should have not put a claim for the headlight. Second, even if your tkt's got dismissed or taken care of they sometimes stay on your record until they are finally cleared (long process which sucks). Another thing is if you are under the age of 25 the rate will be high. 3rd Insurance companies are raising rates throughout Texas. You can thank Perry on that. Like the others said keep looking around until you find one you can afford and is reputable.
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Insurance companies will document any mention of a claim (even if you don't file) and this goes into the calculation of rates. I found this out years ago and have been extrememly careful about mentioning anything to my ins company until I am certain I will file a claim.
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Originally Posted by LeadfootDuramax
Insurance companies will document any mention of a claim (even if you don't file) and this goes into the calculation of rates. I found this out years ago and have been extrememly careful about mentioning anything to my ins company until I am certain I will file a claim.
Wow that is actually really good info to know, thanks man! How did you find that out? I'll definitely keep that in mind
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Originally Posted by LeadfootDuramax
Insurance companies will document any mention of a claim (even if you don't file) and this goes into the calculation of rates. I found this out years ago and have been extrememly careful about mentioning anything to my ins company until I am certain I will file a claim.
Good advice right there!!

I explain this over and over to my customers to call me to file a claim not the 800 number. That way we can discuss anything and everything that could be affected prior to "officially" turning in the claim.

Find yourself an insurance broker who can search multiple companies for you and place you with a company that might not look so poorly upon your situation.

Are you saying it doubled with Progressive or doubled when you tried getting back on your mom's? Progressive should not raise anything on you until your renewal and even then it might be the loss of a discount, they shouldn't be surcharging you for 1) a claim resulting in no payout and 2) a non fault incident.

Good Luck and worst case you can take it as a learning experience
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Originally Posted by Anniversary "Z"
Good advice right there!!

I explain this over and over to my customers to call me to file a claim not the 800 number. That way we can discuss anything and everything that could be affected prior to "officially" turning in the claim.

Find yourself an insurance broker who can search multiple companies for you and place you with a company that might not look so poorly upon your situation.

Are you saying it doubled with Progressive or doubled when you tried getting back on your mom's? Progressive should not raise anything on you until your renewal and even then it might be the loss of a discount, they shouldn't be surcharging you for 1) a claim resulting in no payout and 2) a non fault incident.

Good Luck and worst case you can take it as a learning experience
Well the weird thing was, when progressive wanted to renew, it was like 110 instead. I asked why and they said it was because of a state wide insurance raise thing (Seemd kinda BS to me but I wasnt sure. Can only believe them)

Since then I hadnt checked on rates. When I did with my mom, BAM, $200+

I can't figure it out
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To be completely honest and this may vary from state to state obviously, but anyone with a lapse in coverage is going to get the best deal with Progressive. I'd say 90% of the people who come to me without current insurance end up there through my independant agency. I'd suggest getting back with them for at least 6-12 months of continuous coverage and then go find yourself a company with dedicated agents

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most insurance companies will allow the agent to remove certain items from consideration when quoting ...Progressive being one of them. For example a 'claim' showing when no money was actually paid out

I'd suggest Progressive for six months then have a good brokerage (that deals with several companies) requote you with multiple companies

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Originally Posted by my99blue
I work with an insurance agent, so first being that you haven't established credit still affects you, plus you would be known as a high risk customer. I don't know why your rate doubled, but they should have not put a claim for the headlight. Second, even if your tkt's got dismissed or taken care of they sometimes stay on your record until they are finally cleared (long process which sucks). Another thing is if you are under the age of 25 the rate will be high. 3rd Insurance companies are raising rates throughout Texas. You can thank Perry on that. Like the others said keep looking around until you find one you can afford and is reputable.
The only thing I'd add is if you weren't continuously covered, your rate is higher when you try to get insurance again.
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yeah it's because you didn't have continuous coverage and progressive is a high risk company anyway. pay a little extra for a while and it will go down if you stay clean. insurance companies don't want a customer that has had no insurance. for all they know the previous company cancelled you,hence high risk....
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Bummer, I think I'm starting to see where this problem might have been coming with. I wish I had known some of this before I shelled out $1200 for six months of insurance with Allstate
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Originally Posted by eLiT3SnIpEz
Bummer, I think I'm starting to see where this problem might have been coming with. I wish I had known some of this before I shelled out $1200 for six months of insurance with Allstate
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Mines gone up $35 a month without one speeding ticket or wreck, bout to call up there and see wtf is going on.
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This is the only bad thing about being young...charged out the *** for insurance, even though no wrecks and paying WAY ahead on my car..
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Originally Posted by retardedpenguin
Mines gone up $35 a month without one speeding ticket or wreck, bout to call up there and see wtf is going on.
Call your agent, ask if there are any discounts available you might be missing. Don't hesitate to call around for quotes, insurance is a VERY competitive market
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typically, the only time an auto insurance company runs your driving record is when it first issues the policy and every 2-3 years depending on which risk category you fall into. If you get a ticket in some podunk county, take defensive driving, and send the dd cert to your insurance company, I guaran-f'kin-tee they'll run your record and will see that ticket before podunk county can inform the state that they need to remove that ticket off your record

ever notice that when you get a ticket, they give you something like 90 days to take defensive driving ... THEN, they tell you to mail a copy of the cert to the court and they'll have the ticket removed within 30 days. At the same time, your insurance company says they'll honor a defensive driving course discount if you've taken dd within the past 30 days or the cert cant be older than 30 days. They're trying to stay within that window of time they can still pull your record and see that ticket before it gets removed


I dont know how many customers of mine would walk in all butt-hurt, "I thought I got a discount for taking defensive driving but my rates went up!?"

"well no chit, you just admitted to your AUTO INSURANCE company that you got a ticket and provided them with proof"

yeah, you may get a tiny 5% discount... but it hardly covers the 50% increase you just got because you're now a high-risk driver
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