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Mattism78
02-14-2004, 09:17 PM
Your average run of the mill 500hp SRT-4 :devil: Right Click Save As (http://www.turbochargers.com/forumuploads/500hp.wmv)

Kev98Ta
02-14-2004, 09:34 PM
Nice car. And at least its American :usa:

jeffrey G
02-14-2004, 10:05 PM
i was waiting for someone to beef one up..it was only a matter of time

blk~2000~Z28
02-14-2004, 11:15 PM
Nice numbers although.......What exactly are they spraying into the intercooler/radiator area? Makes me think those numbers are a little high if it needs some cooling just sitting on the dyno for a short run.

Vendetta
02-14-2004, 11:49 PM
That's one sick little car.

Magred2001vette
02-15-2004, 02:23 AM
Your average run of the mill 500hp SRT-4 :devil: Right Click Save As (http://www.turbochargers.com/forumuploads/500hp.wmv)

I'm just waiting for the update a week later where they describe the bottom end falling apart! That car is on borrowed time just like a factory LS1 with a 250HP shot of nitrous.

Vendetta
02-15-2004, 03:32 AM
I'm just waiting for the update a week later where they describe the bottom end falling apart! That car is on borrowed time just like a factory LS1 with a 250HP shot of nitrous.

A factory LS1 with a 250-shot isn't on borrowed time. It's on negative time.

Mattism78
02-15-2004, 07:43 AM
I'm just waiting for the update a week later where they describe the bottom end falling apart! That car is on borrowed time just like a factory LS1 with a 250HP shot of nitrous.

Actually from what I've read. Dodge was in a hurry to put out these cars. So they overbuilt EVERYTHING. I think with proper tuning the car can keep those numbers. I know of quite a few stock bottom end Nissan SR20DET's that put out well over 400hp on a daily basis.

SNiPER2
02-15-2004, 08:46 AM
hate to run into that thing on the street......not that many fast "imports/euros/ricers" down here

Villain281H
02-15-2004, 09:45 AM
very nice, hope it can sustain those #s without :barf: the bottom end!

_Zac
02-15-2004, 11:25 AM
The owners name is john anderson... He lives here in houston.

Im actualy looking forward to racing him the first chance I get. As you can see in that video his car takes a lot of time to spool up.. :(

Mattism78
02-15-2004, 12:35 PM
The owners name is john anderson... He lives here in houston.

Im actualy looking forward to racing him the first chance I get. As you can see in that video his car takes a lot of time to spool up.. :(

Yeah the car did seem to have a lot of lag.

It does bring a smile to my face knowing that an American compact is causing such a stir in the predominantly import ruled sport compact world.

maddboost
02-15-2004, 07:46 PM
While im sure the car makes alot of power the numbers are skewed. They were spraying some type of coolant probably CO2. That lowers the temperature in the intercooler and also raises the HP. While I wouldnt care if he had a actual intercooler cooling kit such as the one NX sells. You dont usually have a buddy hanging on to your front bumper with a CO2 bottle while you drive around.

Mattism78
02-15-2004, 08:18 PM
While im sure the car makes alot of power the numbers are skewed. They were spraying some type of coolant probably CO2. That lowers the temperature in the intercooler and also raises the HP. While I wouldnt care if he had a actual intercooler cooling kit such as the one NX sells. You dont usually have a buddy hanging on to your front bumper with a CO2 bottle while you drive around.

Does that really matter? On a dyno the airflow is MUCH lower then that of the car driving down the road. An intercooler that would otherwise be efficent on the street becomes very inefficient. Getting heat soaked sucks. I used to run a top mount intercooler on my Nissan, and it was no fun. Spraying the intercooler or not. Those numbers are VERY impressive.

maddboost
02-15-2004, 08:23 PM
Does that really matter? On a dyno the airflow is MUCH lower then that of the car driving down the road. An intercooler that would otherwise be efficent on the street becomes very inefficient. Getting heat soaked sucks. I used to run a top mount intercooler on my Nissan, and it was no fun. Spraying the intercooler or not. Those numbers are VERY impressive.

Actually I have seen Supras on a dyno with a NX cooler spray and pick up between 50 and 75 hp. More then you would pick up from driving down the street. So your comparison between spraying the intercooler and driving down the road is pretty far fetched.

Mattism78
02-15-2004, 08:28 PM
Actually I have seen Supras on a dyno with a NX cooler spray and pick up between 50 and 75 hp. More then you would pick up from driving down the street. So your comparison between spraying the intercooler and driving down the road is pretty far fetched.

You're talking about a NX cooler that sprays WHILE the car is rolling. The guy simply walked in front of the car VERY briefly and sprayed. My comparison is not far fetched at all. I have several friends with the NX kit. BIG difference.

maddboost
02-15-2004, 08:42 PM
You're talking about a NX cooler that sprays WHILE the car is rolling. The guy simply walked in front of the car VERY briefly and sprayed. My comparison is not far fetched at all. I have several friends with the NX kit. BIG difference.

Looks like a dyno trick to me. If you really cared about what your car did you wouldnt spray the intercooler to "See what kind of power it puts on the street" you would drive it on the street and hand everyone their ass.

Mattism78
02-15-2004, 08:48 PM
Looks like a dyno trick to me. If you really cared about what your car did you wouldnt spray the intercooler to "See what kind of power it puts on the street" you would drive it on the street and hand everyone their ass.

That's pretty far off the topic. Point is he put down 500hp. Stock bottom end, basically just a bigger turbo, bigger injectors, lots of tuning, and a couple other things. Impressive in my book. :judge:

770Guy
02-15-2004, 09:15 PM
That's pretty far off the topic. Point is he put down 500hp. Stock bottom end, basically just a bigger turbo, bigger injectors, lots of tuning, and a couple other things. Impressive in my book. :judge:

:werd:

SuperTrooper
02-16-2004, 12:33 PM
Be it not near 500whp, but I have been driving around my friends SRT while she is in LA for the week. Let me tell you. This lil Faulker is fun. To keep myself from getting into trouble if she reads this....I will just say this. Lots of cars = 0 / me = 1+
And did I mentiont that this things drives as if it is on rails? Sweeping turns that most avg cars shouldn't take past 50mph, I was able to double that and not for a single second did the car feel loose or push what so ever.

Revelation222
02-16-2004, 02:39 PM
Acctually, I was reading the thread in the srtforum about this car and they said that they were spraying No2 into the intercooler, dont know if that would make much of a difference compared to Co2? Looked like a lot of spray though. Looked like they were shooting it right from the hose. Not knocking the numbers though, even if it was 450 without the external cooling, thats still quite a feat for the SRT-4. Oh, and I know of a few full on race setups using the stock bottom end running 800-900hp without problems.

maddboost
02-16-2004, 03:18 PM
Acctually, I was reading the thread in the srtforum about this car and they said that they were spraying No2 into the intercooler, dont know if that would make much of a difference compared to Co2? Looked like a lot of spray though. Looked like they were shooting it right from the hose. Not knocking the numbers though, even if it was 450 without the external cooling, thats still quite a feat for the SRT-4. Oh, and I know of a few full on race setups using the stock bottom end running 800-900hp without problems.

CO2 and N20 will have pretty much the same cooling affect.

Excal
02-18-2004, 12:18 PM
umm some cars spray the intercooler stock...

i guess he could get a nx kit and get even MORE power (not to mention no way in hell it picked up 50hp with that, if so very 4 cyl turbo would have it on the street) but he is already making 500hp which is BRUTAl, especially for that weight.

if he blows the engine, no shame, what engine doesn't.

Mattism78
02-18-2004, 12:33 PM
umm some cars spray the intercooler stock...

i guess he could get a nx kit and get even MORE power (not to mention no way in hell it picked up 50hp with that, if so very 4 cyl turbo would have it on the street) but he is already making 500hp which is BRUTAl, especially for that weight.

if he blows the engine, no shame, what engine doesn't.

The more I think about it, the more impressed I am. That would be the equivelant of putting over a 300shot of nitrous on a LS1. Basically more then doubling the stock HP. Crazy stuff. AND it's AMERICAN!! :usa:

narfmasta
02-18-2004, 01:27 PM
Glad to see there are a couple fast ones, but the one's I've raced even with their supposed Stage X (insert number here) upgrades they've claimed to have haven't even kept up within 2 car lengths...

Roarin_8
02-19-2004, 07:57 PM
Love that avatar Revelation222. :playboy: :jest:

Unforgiven1
02-22-2004, 11:11 AM
Maybe not necessarily American muscle but defintely something to be proud of. It's nice to see an american car hit that market and takeover. I got excited when I was reading about this car prior to it's release. I say for under $20K that's an awesome BANG! for you buck. If I could afford it, I'd probably have one to keep the mileage down on the camaro. Anyone in OK have one of these? I want a ride! :drive: