Racer's Lounge - School bus driver yanks child to ground...

Today this full news story and video broke.. Need your thoughts..

http://www.kwch.com/news/kcpq-school-bus-driver-tosses-kindergartner-caught-on-tape-20110301,0,5131100.story

I heard the full news story just a few minutes ago on TV.. What was said after -

OK, The bus driver is driving and the child won't sit after being told to do so prior to this incident happening.. The driver then yanks the child to ground while driving the bus..

Mother is outraged as I just saw her interviewed.. Plans on sewing.. The kid was interviews too and said "she didn't like it".. The child appeared to be a total spoiled brat while being interviewed by the way.

The media is calling this act "Outrageous and Shocking" to all parents to see.

The driver was immediately suspended and later quit as of today..

Is the bus driver right or wrong?

The brat was acting up and endangering herself and others by standing on a moving bus, she would not listen after being told. The bus was rolling... Am I missing something here? :confused:

i would fuck that guy up if he touched my kids that way

She shouldve stopped the bus. Then put that girl in her place haha. Ik when I was little if we were rowdy the bus driver would warn us twice then stop the bus and sit there until we sat down and stop doing whatever we were Doing. Sounds like that bus driver was Ready to quit anyways

When I use to goto school in Germany on the base we had a German Bus driver that once whopped my ass for doing that:D I think im a better person for it and learned respect for adults a bit better....but then Me and my brother did get kicked off that bus since my brother punched him as he was spanking me.....I was in Kindergarden and my brother was in 4th grade......good times:D lol

The driver in your story should have pulled over, called the admin office and had the child removed for endangering other students and himself and make his mommy drive him to school for several weeks.

When I use to goto school in Germany on the base we had a German Bus driver that once whopped my ass for doing that:D I think im a better person for it and learned respect for adults a bit better.

Thank you Ravenous,

Soon the kids will be telling what the adults should do. Times are really changing as the years go by..

Then you'll love this story from yesterday on Yahoo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110302/ap_on_re_us/us_teacher_table_rattling_1

http://angrychicken.typepad.com/angry_chicken/images/sc0715ab22.jpg

Really Jib? Sewing?

Whatever happened to "If you don't sit down I will drive you back to school!"?

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Really Jib? Sewing?

Betty Sue I love you.... :ripped: I won't even edit and fix that.

i believe in tough love, but that was just completely ridiculous. i don't have my own kids, but if somebody did something like that to my nephews, they would have to drive themselves and their schoolbus to the nearest ER.

Then you'll love this story from yesterday on Yahoo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110302/ap_on_re_us/us_teacher_table_rattling_1


That yahoo story doesn't surprise me.. Soon you can get fired and or imprisoned for just staring hard at a disobeying child..:bang:

Back in the day, the bus driver, teacher, coach, neighbor would whoop my ass. Then my parents would do it when I got home just to make sure I got the point.

Back in the day, the bus driver, teacher, coach, neighbor would whoop my ass. Then my parents would do it when I got home just to make sure I got the point.

seriously I got beat by my teachers parents bus drivers, what the hell is wrong with you people, America is becoming so fucking weak, The pussy's of this world have taken over. If you get mad for someone stepping up and taking care of your children then step the fuck up and do it your self. Kids need discipline.. I"m only 27 and this shit is sad. Beatings in school ended when i was in school and I seen the change back then in kids and their useless ass parents.

seriously I got beat by my teachers parents bus drivers, what the hell is wrong with you people, America is becoming so fucking weak, The pussy's of this world have taken over. If you get mad for someone stepping up and taking care of your children then step the fuck up and do it your self. Kids need discipline.. I"m only 27 and this shit is sad. Beatings in school ended when i was in school and I seen the change back then in kids and their useless ass parents.

Years ago those people usually had permission to beat your kids if you weren't around. I wouldn't want my kid being hit without my permission. That's what the issue is here. Kids will be bad and a good smack usually sets them back in line but it should be the parents hand doing the smacking.

^^ Try going to a strict Catholic school growing up like I did.. We got our fingers and knuckles hit by rulers at times, yelled at face to face and yanked hard by the arm.. Put in the corner kneeling down on hard surfaces for long durations in front of the class..

That throw down in the bus would have been a walk in the park back in my day..

We had to wear uniforms and the nuns were meaner and more violent then the actual teachers themselves. Us kids were all well behaved and always very respectful towards adults in authoritative positions.

Strong and not overly abusive discipline worked well back in the day...:usa:

seriously I got beat by my teachers parents bus drivers, what the hell is wrong with you people, America is becoming so fucking weak, The pussy's of this world have taken over. If you get mad for someone stepping up and taking care of your children then step the fuck up and do it your self. Kids need discipline.. I"m only 27 and this shit is sad. Beatings in school ended when i was in school and I seen the change back then in kids and their useless ass parents.

you don't see the problem with throwing a 6 year old to the ground on a moving bus? seems as if you're just as f'ed in the head as the driver. there is a difference between a punk ass 16 year old and a 6 year old girl.

i probably would of handled it differently. but what would of happened if the child was standing like she was in the video and the bus driver had to hit the brakes and then the child goes flying thru the windshield? is that the drivers fault too?

Little F'n brat. I would have stopped the bus and made her ass walk :lol: Just kinda wrong putting your hands on another persons kid like that.

Soon you can get fired and or imprisoned for just staring hard at a disobeying child..:bang:

Had two teenagers skateboarding in our parking lot back when we lived in our Condo. My wife came home from work and parked in her assigned spot which was right where they were skate boarding, they didn't like that much and as she was walking away she looked back and saw one of them spit on her car. She came in and told me and I came out and they were gone.

The next day I was out detailing her car and cleaning the spit off of her car and I saw them come out and start skateboarding in the parking lot, I stood up and just stared those f*ckers down harder than I've ever stared down someone in my life. They kept looking up at me and then quickly looking away. After a few minutes they scurried off into their condo and came back out with their Mom. She comes up to me while I'm now back to detailing the car and says, "How are you doing today?". I tell her just fine except someone spit on my wife's car and I'm cleaning it up. She then says she is going to the store and asks if I want anything to drink like a soda or something. This was the weirdiest thing as I have never seen this lady in my life. I told her no and her and the two teens got in a car and left.

A few weeks later her car's window was shot out with a bb gun and I never saw those kids again. :mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dncx6O5J4U

P.S- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwTM5oAd5ZU&feature=related

Back in the day, the bus driver, teacher, coach, neighbor would whoop my ass. Then my parents would do it when I got home just to make sure I got the point.

Damn that sounds familiar (I'm 30 btw). I got beat once a month, whether I needed it or not. The difference is NO ONE EVER lost their temper. My dad would talk to me for an hour about what I did wrong and how disappointed he was and how it would hurt him more than it would hurt me, all before making me go get my own switch. The buildup was the worst part.

Too many crazy people for it to work now...

Probaly a parenting issue. Dumb ass kids these days are spoiled and dont have respect for anyone. if they had there ass whipped with a belt a few times they would listen then.
Either way a bus driver should not lay a hand on a kid. End of story !
All these fuckers saying its wrong to whip kids these days need to be beat themselves. Nothing wrong with a good old fashion ass whipping just dont take it to extremes !

Probaly a parenting issue. Dumb ass kids these days are spoiled and dont have respect for anyone. if they had there ass whipped with a belt a few times they would listen then.
Either way a bus driver should not lay a hand on a kid. End of story !
All these fuckers saying its wrong to whip kids these days need to be beat themselves. Nothing wrong with a good old fashion ass whipping just dont take it to extremes !

i still don't think a 6 year old girl falls under your idea of who needs to be punished. like i said, throwing a 6 year old girl to the ground where she could have easily gotten a serious head injury is different than a spanking. anybody who thinks it is okay for this jack off bus driver (that wouldn't know how to handle kids if his life depended on it) to throw a little girl to the floor is fucked up... end of story. you can all say how you were beaten as a kid for doing stupid shit, but i bet none of you were 6 years old at the time.

if you were 12+ and got the belt, then good, f you-you probably deserved it. a belt or a spanking is also very different from being thrown to the ground with that much force. a grown ass man treating somebody else's 6 year old girl like that? come on now... time to quit blaming the worlds problems on parents not beating their toddlers. :321:

Today, no one can touch anyone for any reason whats so ever.

This teaches people "Hey - I can be an idiot all day long, and no one can do shit to me, or THEY get in trouble."

This is bad parenting at it's worst.

No child deserves to be abused, however, When I behaved poorly, and was givin' a swift ass-whoopin' by my parents - it taught me valuable lessons that stuck with me.

No one is accountable these days.

For what it's worth, the video didn't work for me. So I couldn't see it.

I do know that when I was growing up, we feared teachers. Now, kids show utter disrespect. It's an utter "me" world today.

I sound old.




End of rant.

This video doesn't really seem like that big of a deal to me. Pretty ridiculous that people are "outraged" over this, when there's plenty of other things to be legitimately outraged about. That said, the bus driver should be disciplined; to the extent of losing his job? I don't know. His intentions were not pernicious.

This video doesn't really seem like that big of a deal to me. Pretty ridiculous that people are "outraged" over this, when there's plenty of other things to be legitimately outraged about. That said, the bus driver should be disciplined; to the extent of losing his job? I don't know. His intentions were not pernicious.

My feelings exactly.. ^^^^

Kids are old enough to listen at 6 years old on a public school bus, if not I think an appropriate attention getter is in order.. The bus driver did not strike the girl, just threw her down to get her attention.

I bet you the spoiled brat was as quiet as a mouse and sitting down after that...

Perhaps the bus driver should have shaken the kid instead of thrown her down like that.. A good hard shake would do the trick but that is probably a felony child endangerment abusive crime of some sort now in this Country too :bs:


PS. The Billy Madison, Chris Farley bus driver vid is funny shit by the way:jest:

Notice how she sat her little ass down after that? :nod: 10 bucks says the little brat would have continued doing as she pleased no matter what the driver told her if this hadn't happened. That's the problem these days, all of a sudden people think kids are adults with rights. They're not. Pretty soon parents will be able to sue teachers for even fussing their little demon spawn verbally. It's sad.

I'm not saying that there might not have been a better way to handle that situation, but we don't know how much escalation led up to that incident. I blame the parents more than the driver. If they were doing their job, their daughter would have sat her ass down when the driver told her to.

She shouldve stopped the bus. Then put that girl in her place haha. Ik when I was little if we were rowdy the bus driver would warn us twice then stop the bus and sit there until we sat down and stop doing whatever we were Doing. Sounds like that bus driver was Ready to quit anyways

That's what mine did, and it worked.

it makes no sense to me for parents to be outraged when they raised little spoiled brats and troublemakers who wont listen. you have to put yourself in the bus driver's shoes. when youre driving a bus like that i imagine its pretty stressful when people are yelling. he told them to shutup like 50 times.

We were assholes when we were little, surprised our bus driver didn't whoop our ass many times.

I drive a bus with middle schoolers. I can't tell you how hard it is in NYC traffic with kids who wont just sit in their fucking seats and relax on their way home. Instead they scream, yell.....sit backwards......put their arms out the window, etc etc.

Of course if any of them end up hurt for ANY reason my ass is sued.

A 6 year old? I def would not throw her to the ground, however i would pull the bus over and if she refused to sit down and chill out my bus wouldn't move till she was not on it.

i would fuck that guy up if he touched my kids that way

This is what is wrong with the world today, people like your dumb ass continue to help degrade society. Those kids were obviously endangering themselves and distracting the driver by their unruly behavior. Imagine if the driver had to hit the brakes quickly while the kid was jumping around in the aisle. What he did, did not cause any harm to that child. What that childs parent needs to do is teach her how to behave in public.

it makes no sense to me for parents to be outraged when they raised little spoiled brats and troublemakers who wont listen. You have to put yourself in the bus driver's shoes. When youre driving a bus like that i imagine its pretty stressful when people are yelling when he told them to shut up like 50 times already.

this ^^^^^^^

i would fuck that guy up if he touched my kids that way - even though my bratty little girl was out of control and misbehaving on the bus after being told repeatedly not too...

Not this ^^^^^^^^^^

Haha my bus driver did the same exact thing to me when I was younger.

Do people understand the hell that bus drivers go through? I genuinely feel bad for my bus driver because me and my friends were so evil.

And they have to deal with that every day for 2+hrs in the morning and afternoon. Especially at that age is when kids have so much energy and discover the power of "no" and abuse the shit out of it.

At least we know who the dipshits are on this board that are raising punk ass kids. The parents love to blame anyone but their horrible parenting skills. Most kids these days are punks and lack discipline. Guess these are the same parents who preach "time out" over spankings, lol.

I'm not sure you could pay me enough to drive bus. Combines two things I despise: Children and extensive non-competitive driving.

All I can say is it's obvious most of you people aren't parents. That little girl was fucking 6 years old, 6!! That driver lost it and doesn't know how to deal with kids. Just because the girl was talking turning around doesn't mean she's a brat, she's just being a kid on the bus. It didn't warrant grabbing her and dragging her to the floor like that. I have two kids age 5 and 2 and am no stranger to discipline. But if that would have been my kid I would follow that old fucker to his house and work his old ass over!

All I can say is it's obvious most of you people aren't parents. That little girl was fucking 6 years old, 6!! That driver lost it and doesn't know how to deal with kids. Just because the girl was talking turning around doesn't mean she's a brat, she's just being a kid on the bus. It didn't warrant grabbing her and dragging her to the floor like that. I have two kids age 5 and 2 and am no stranger to discipline. But if that would have been my kid I would follow that old fucker to his house and work his old ass over!


I saw the mother and kid interviewed and trust me she's a spoiled brat.. Probably deserved worse just for the record..

I always blame the parents and not the young kids first, that is if I don't lose my mind first from the kids bad behavior problems..

I saw the mother and kid interviewed and trust me she's a spoiled brat.. Probably deserved worse just for the record..

I always blame the parents and not the young kids first, that is if I don't lose my mind first from the kids bad behavior problems..


Didn't see the interview, she may be a brat. But you don't put your hands on a 6 year old girl like that. Believe me, I've had some real brats over at my house and lost my temper more that once....but I would never hit another parents kid. Guy should have walked over to the parents house and yelled at the mom, don't assault 6 year old.

Didn't see the interview, she may be a brat. But you don't put your hands on a 6 year old girl like that. Believe me, I've had some real brats over at my house and lost my temper more that once....but I would never hit another parents kid. Guy should have walked over to the parents house and yelled at the mom, don't assault 6 year old.

Ok, you make a reasonable argument but still, the kid won't listen and the bus is in motion.. The child's own safety is in danger at that point by standing.. She has been told several times to sit down but no..

I can understand how the bus driver could lose it like that and pull the little girl to the ground to right the situation while operating a moving bus.

He didn't hit her, he didn't hurt her.. He was driving the bus while grabbing her with one arm firmly..

I just think at some point you have to physical grab a child even at 6 years old to make a point and create order to potentially stop a dangerous situation..

Secondly - Bus drivers probably aren't of the highest IQ for starters and can't rationally think out a mental plan to right the situation without physical contact..

If my kid, I would actually be ok with that. If my child was that much of distraction on a moving bus, and actually causing all the other children to be in harms danger I would be ok with that but nothing more..

The bus driver was clearly being distracted by this girls misbehavior which could potentially cause the bus to crash causing real injury to all the children, right or wrong?

If the child doesn't listen what do you do at that point? Call for a time out? Stop the bus in mid traffic? You tell me? Bus driver's should be paying most of his attention on the road and not on the one misbehaving child..

The bus driver reached back with one hand to right the situation.. No hitting or striking right? Is that so wrong in that situation?

I can tell you that child is not going to be mentally effected or disturbed for life from it, no pain or bruises either. The child seemed just fine in the interview too.

I think the bus driver did what he had to do in order to proceed driving safely and not further endangering all the other better behaved children on board..

Spare the rod spoil the child..

I am such a firm believer in that statement.. One time hard spanking is all you need too in most cases.. It doesn't have to be a constant act..

Not talking about child abuse either, just firm discipline..

So many parents these days love their children too much to spank them. That actually ends up screwing up the child more in the long run and running the parents into practical insanity...

Ok, you make a reasonable argument but still, the kid won't listen and the bus is in motion.. The child's own safety is in danger at that point by standing.. She has been told several times to sit down but no..

I can understand how the bus driver could lose it like that and pull the little girl to the ground to right the situation.

He didn't hit her, he didn't hurt her.. He was driving the bus while grabbing her with one arm firmly..

I just think at some point you have to physical grab a child even at 6 years old to make a point and create order to potentially stop a dangerous situation..

Secondly - Bus drivers probably aren't of the highest IQ for starters and can't rationally think out a mental plan to right the situation without physical contact..

If my kid, I would actually be ok with that. If my child was that much of distraction on a moving bus, and actually causing all the other children to be in harms danger I would be ok with that but nothing more..

The bus driver was clearly being distracted by this girls misbehavior which could potentially cause the bus to crash causing real injury to all the children, right or wrong?

If the child doesn't listen what do you do at that point? Call for a time out? Stop the bus in mid traffic? You tell me? Bus driver's should be paying most of his attention on the road and not on the one misbehaving child..

The bus driver reached back with one hand to right the situation.. No hitting or striking right? Is that so wrong in that situation?

I can tell you that child is not going to be mentally effected or disturbed for life from it, no pain or bruises either. The child seemed just fine in the interview too.

I think the bus driver did what she had to do in order to proceed driving safely and not further endanger all the other better behaved children on board the bus..

Spare the rod spoil the child..

I am such a firm believer in that statement.. One time hard spanking is all you need too in most cases.. It doesn't have to be a constant act..

Not talking about child abuse either, just firm discipline..

So many parents these days love their children too much to spank them. That actually ends up screwing up the child more in the long run and running the parents into practical insanity...

Sorry for quoting this novel, but this post is so fucked up that i had to make a few points. first, the girl was standing up, and the bus was moving so the driver throws her towards the front, where if something were to happen, she would not be any better up there.

second, saying that bus drivers can't come up with a rational plan to get a misbehaving child to follow the rules is just a ridiculous judgment to make, and from the sounds of this post, you would fit right in with them.

third, you ask "is the driver supposed to just stop in traffic?" YES! YES he is supposed to pull over and stop if anybody's safety is a concern. school buses have a lot of flashing lights and it's really hard for drivers to miss a big fucking orange twinky! sorry, but if 50 kids lives are at risk, people can wait 2 minutes while a bus driver stops to tell a girl to switch to a window seat so she can't stand in the aisle.

fourth, you say you wouldn't mind if it was your kid.. bull shit! do you even have kids? from what i have gathered your a roughly 40 year old, balding single guy who likes to preach bullshit in every thread you enter because you think you know better than everybody else

Sorry for quoting this novel, but this post is so fucked up that i had to make a few points. first, the girl was standing up, and the bus was moving so the driver throws her towards the front, where if something were to happen, she would not be any better up there.

second, saying that bus drivers can't come up with a rational plan to get a misbehaving child to follow the rules is just a ridiculous judgment to make, and from the sounds of this post, you would fit right in with them.

third, you ask "is the driver supposed to just stop in traffic?" YES! YES he is supposed to pull over and stop if anybody's safety is a concern. school buses have a lot of flashing lights and it's really hard for drivers to miss a big fucking orange twinky! sorry, but if 50 kids lives are at risk, people can wait 2 minutes while a bus driver stops to tell a girl to switch to a window seat so she can't stand in the aisle.

fourth, you say you wouldn't mind if it was your kid.. bull shit! do you even have kids? from what i have gathered your a roughly 40 year old, balding single guy who likes to preach bullshit in every thread you enter because you think you know better than everybody else

Balding yes, Novel yes, but preaching bull shit in every thread I hope not..

I don't know more then everyone else on the forums either, no way. I do however think I know what I post on serious topics like this from living 40+ years on this earth.. I joke and a am a clown as much as I can because I know life is short and we must laugh and enjoy and that in turn makes me and others happy..

I also do have experience with children of all ages.. 6 years old too and 5 of them to be exact.. I have a brother with two children and a sister with two children.. I also dated and lived with a girl for 7 years whom had at the time a child of 4 years old and I was basically the second daddy..

Anyways, Sister used timeouts and little discipline - Brother used paddles and firm discipline.

I was around alot and helped out alot.. I completely and utterly saw the difference in both sets of kids and it completely opened my eyes to what works and what doesn't..



With that being said back to topic -

Ok, it was my understanding the bus was moving in heavy traffic.. The bus driver repeatedly asked the little girl to sit.. Probably should have waited to pull the bus over but maybe the distraction was too great at the time.. He pulled the little girl down then firmly told her to sit down and pointed the finger. That was not child abuse but discipline, sorry..

Were you driving the bus anyways? I don't think so smart ass..

Didn't see the interview, she may be a brat. But you don't put your hands on a 6 year old girl like that. Believe me, I've had some real brats over at my house and lost my temper more that once....but I would never hit another parents kid. Guy should have walked over to the parents house and yelled at the mom, don't assault 6 year old.

Actually he grabbed her by the bookbag, and she wasn't harmed. It was enough to scare her. Put yourself in the shoes of the bus driver. Dealing with little shits all day that won't listen to you. If he would've gotten in an accident she would've gone straight through the windshield. He was doing HER a favor.

Guys...come back and post when you have kids of your own. Saying you have nephews, nieces, etc doesn't come close to your own kids. I felt the same as you guys 5 years ago and that totally changes when it your own flesh and blood.

The driver assaulted the kid. He should have pulled the buss over, got right in that kids face, flexed his muscles and said "SIT THE F DOWN RIGHT NOW!!" I guarantee you she wouldn't have moved the rest of trip. I would have been totally fine with something like that. But you don't lay your hands on someone elses kid. And I have and am not afraid to spank my own kids, there better for it I'm sure.

Guys...come back and post when you have kids of your own. Saying you have nephews, nieces, etc doesn't come close to your own kids. I felt the same as you guys 5 years ago and that totally changes when it your own flesh and blood.

The driver assaulted the kid. He should have pulled the buss over, got right in that kids face, flexed his muscles and said "SIT THE F DOWN RIGHT NOW!!" I guarantee you she wouldn't have moved the rest of trip. I would have been totally fine with something like that. But you don't lay your hands on someone elses kid. And I have and am not afraid to spank my own kids, there better for it I'm sure.
In my experience with my own kids, yelling and cursing is actually less productive than physical discipline.....unless the kid is ridiculously shy. In which case that kid probably wouldn't be disobeying to that extent anyways. But your opinion goes hand in hand with the bigger problem with most parents today.........they don't want ANYONE disciplining their kids but them. Problem with that is that your kids are technically in the custody of these teachers and bus drivers EVERYDAY. You can't expect discipline to take a hike for 7-8 hours a day. And let's face it, some kids are just immune to verbal discipline.

I do agree the bus driver could have found a better way, but I also identify with how the driver came to be in that state in the first place. These people are basically told they can't say or do anything to keep these kids in line. And at some point, a person like that......overwhelmed by spoiled little brats that don't have an ounce of respect for adult authority.....is going to snap. All the more reason why these teachers and bus operators need the authority to discipline kids when in their care....so emotional eruptions of this sort don't happen. Like the old saying goes: "It takes a village". People need to stop getting so defensive about other adults being able to discipline their kids when they are out of control.

I think alot of parents today fail in the fact that they love their own flesh and bone child so much they can't stomach it to physically harm them in the form of proper and not abusive physical discipline.

Studies have shown that a lack of parental discipline can lead to - Social issues and problems. Things like entitlement issues, selfishness and superficial friendships.. Failed relationships, drugs and depression possibly too..Google it if you don't believe me..

Does a loving parent really want that end result to happen to their child? I would say hell no!!!!

I'm no expert on this, but this is my personal guide to see where a child is at -

I would say if you're a parent and really love your child then you will take control and spank that child when needed. Let your "yes" be "yes" one time and your "no" be "no" one time is the goal you should strive for.. Having to Bargain and barter with the child to get the yes or cooperation out I think is horrible.

I would say if your child doesn't listen to you the first time and you need to ask repeatedly in most cases to get the cooperation and yes out then you a falling short in the discipline department and basically failing as a good loving parent.

On the other hand - I would say if you ask your child one time and more often then not that child answers yes and obeys then your winning the discipline game.

Knowing, accepting and understanding the dynamics of how to properly raise a child into adult hood is so overlooked by loving and doting parents these days it blows me away..

Loving your child alone is not good enough and I firmly believe that.

I think alot of parents today fail in the fact that they love their own flesh and bone child so much they can't stomach it to physically harm them in the form of proper and not abusive physical discipline.

Studies have shown that a lack of parental discipline can lead to - Social issues and problems. Things like entitlement issues, selfishness and superficial friendships.. Failed relationships, drugs and depression possibly too..Google it if you don't believe me..

Does a loving parent really want that end result to happen to their child? I would say hell no!!!!

I'm no expert on this, but this is my personal guide to see where a child is at -

I would say if you're a parent and really love your child then you will take control and spank that child when needed. Let your "yes" be "yes" one time and your "no" be "no" one time is the goal you should strive for.. Having to Bargain and barter with the child to get the yes or cooperation out I think is horrible.

I would say if your child doesn't listen to you the first time and you need to ask repeatedly in most cases to get the cooperation and yes out then you a falling short in the discipline department and basically failing as a good loving parent.

On the other hand - I would say if you ask your child one time and more often then not that child answers yes and obeys then your winning the discipline game.

Knowing, accepting and understanding the dynamics of how to properly raise a child into adult hood is so overlooked by loving and doting parents these days it blows me away..

Loving your child alone is not good enough and I firmly believe that.


I would agree with that. As a parent I think this is one of the harder things to instill in your child. It took my 5 year old awhile to get to that point, now I got another one to work on.

I have no problem with others disciplining my kids. Until the point where they decide to become physical.

i still don't think a 6 year old girl falls under your idea of who needs to be punished. like i said, throwing a 6 year old girl to the ground where she could have easily gotten a serious head injury is different than a spanking. anybody who thinks it is okay for this jack off bus driver (that wouldn't know how to handle kids if his life depended on it) to throw a little girl to the floor is fucked up... end of story. you can all say how you were beaten as a kid for doing stupid shit, but i bet none of you were 6 years old at the time.

if you were 12+ and got the belt, then good, f you-you probably deserved it. a belt or a spanking is also very different from being thrown to the ground with that much force. a grown ass man treating somebody else's 6 year old girl like that? come on now... time to quit blaming the worlds problems on parents not beating their toddlers. :321:



LOL how about reading the whole post ASS JOCKEY :twak:
I said the bus driver should have never laid hands on the child.
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If the driver never did a thing and she continued to play in the isle she would be the first one to go through the winshield in a wreck. If that were to happen then what would they say as they were watching the camera. Why didnt the bus driver make her sit down.

Our bus driver just pulled the bus over, turned the motor off, and parked it. Yelled at us little shits and told us we weren't going anywhere until we acted right. Of course after about 5-10 minutes of sitting there, all of us really wanting to get home, we'd act right for a few minutes, then she'd pull the damn bus over again. Any time that motor turned off everybody got real damn quiet, lol.

The driver also made all the little shits sit right behind her so she could keep her eyes on them at all times. Hell when southpark came out, we all thought the bus driver on that show looked like our bus driver, she even yelled the same damn thing "SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!!!!!"