View Full Version : Damn Lawmakers...


ColeGraham
03-12-2011, 02:18 PM
These asses need to get their heads out of their asses...

god damn lawmakers...i am not sure if this will happen. but if it does, it stay my decision to stay in or get out in another direction. and the worse part, my brothers and sisters overseas will be fighting and dying without a fucking pay check. complete bull shit.

Air Force Times (http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2011/03/military-contingency-plan-government-shutdown-031111w/)

Army Times (http://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/03/military-contingency-plan-government-shutdown-031111w/?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4d7bbab9cf321042%2C0)

Navy Times (http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/03/military-contingency-plan-government-shutdown-031111w/)


Marine Corps Times (http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2011/03/military-contingency-plan-government-shutdown-031111w/)

all the same article, but i figured each branch would like to go to their own site.

lookin4aTA
03-13-2011, 12:21 AM
What The Fuck?!?!?!?! I hope this is just like the same bullshit that happened every year and is just a scare.

MeentSS02
03-13-2011, 12:31 AM
It could happen, but as soon as they pass the budget, you'd get all back pay you were owed. This happens all the time.

deathphoenix
03-13-2011, 12:51 AM
Back pay or not, these "high class citizens" needs to pull head from @$$ and understand that without us, they wouldn't have a job. I'm currently deployed and grant it I have no use for the money here in this dump, I do have a wife and three kids who depend on it to buy groceries!!!!!

cbr600rx7
03-13-2011, 01:01 AM
I dont see why if affects troops. We have no say in the budget and for some troops mostly (E1-E4s) living week to week already this could be a hard blow.

20TA02
03-13-2011, 12:05 PM
if this happens, ill give my two weeks notice... lol

cbr600rx7
03-13-2011, 12:31 PM
LOL good luck with that one.

ColeGraham
03-13-2011, 01:20 PM
if you read your enlistment, you are guaranteed at least your base pay. and since your enlistment is a contract, the DOD and federal government is in breach of contract. and you can sue them, not sure how far that will go haha, but everyone could revolt and file a class action suit.

MeentSS02
03-14-2011, 12:54 PM
Yeah...let me know how that goes for you.

2002TAWS6Pontiac
03-14-2011, 03:06 PM
I am doing preparation/ research and talking to a lawyer. I enjoy working, but not for free when i have bills.

willsol
03-14-2011, 07:05 PM
It's not going to happen. You have nothing to be afraid of. It is just a scare tactic article.

There is people in DC that have been working 20hr days just to make sure we are ok. Totally separate from the other BS going on.

They realize over 50% of the military live paycheck to paycheck. Especially if you factor in having to make up the OHA / BAH on our own.

96WS6guy
03-14-2011, 08:08 PM
To say it's not going to happen is foolish. Although it's not LIKELY, it's entirely possible and has happened before. During both the Clinton and Reagan administrations. Brushing it off isn't smart. Taking the time to prepare yourself in case it does happen in the future would probably be a better use of time.

StoleIt
03-15-2011, 12:16 AM
Even if the government shuts down all ACTIVE DUTY will keep receiving pay checks.

CEASE BUZZER...

DoD is operating on a separate continuing resolution (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1eh/pdf/BILLS-112hr1eh.pdf) that is different from the rest of the federal budget. In short, if the current negotiations fail and the government shuts down, Active Duty folks still get paid.

hawk584
03-15-2011, 12:48 AM
Dear Walmart.....

ColeGraham
03-15-2011, 01:00 AM
Even if the government shuts down all ACTIVE DUTY will keep receiving pay checks.

CEASE BUZZER...

DoD is operating on a separate continuing resolution (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1eh/pdf/BILLS-112hr1eh.pdf) that is different from the rest of the federal budget. In short, if the current negotiations fail and the government shuts down, Active Duty folks still get paid.

i could have misread it, but going through that H.R.1...

what i read is H.R. (House Resolution) An Act - This mean that is a resolution that has NOT been approved by the House. Which in turn that it means it as not been aprroved by the Senate. It has to be both approved (enacted) by both side of Congress. so, if they are still debating the Federal Budget, and the appropriations for the DoD has not made it through each side. then those appropriations are NOT approved. and if they dont get it approved, and the government shuts down before H.R.1 is approved, that inturn would all appropriations outlined in the document would not be approved.

thats my take.

hawk584
03-15-2011, 01:16 AM
my take is we are puppets in someones sick ass puppet show... if the puppet master can't afford to pay us, he doesn't have to.....

ColeGraham
03-15-2011, 01:27 AM
my take is we are puppets in someones sick ass puppet show... if the puppet master can't afford to pay us, he doesn't have to.....

hahaha...that is actually pretty good. :cheers:

96WS6guy
03-15-2011, 06:05 PM
Even if the government shuts down all ACTIVE DUTY will keep receiving pay checks.

CEASE BUZZER...

DoD is operating on a separate continuing resolution (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1eh/pdf/BILLS-112hr1eh.pdf) that is different from the rest of the federal budget. In short, if the current negotiations fail and the government shuts down, Active Duty folks still get paid.

That is more wrong that two little brothers trying to make a little sister.

gorge
03-15-2011, 11:47 PM
I heard from a retired MSgt, that this had happened before but we'll still get paid. My taxes already got fucked I hope they don't plan on fucking me with this shit.

ColeGraham
03-16-2011, 12:43 AM
I heard from a retired MSgt, that this had happened before but we'll still get paid. My taxes already got fucked I hope they don't plan on fucking me with this shit.

that was in 1995...and in the 80s...but each time, there was a write in with the stoppage that military pay wouldnt stop. this go around, that part is missing.

gorge
03-17-2011, 07:39 PM
no updates on this?

ColeGraham
03-18-2011, 12:24 AM
still debating on much mouch money to send Japan, rather then pass the federal budget bill.

jsteele90
03-18-2011, 12:39 AM
how about zero $$ to japan

f3racer
03-18-2011, 01:16 AM
this happened in 1998. they resolved it pretty quick. instead of recieveing a paycheck on the 1st and 15th we received the entire months check on the 15th.

z28MP
03-18-2011, 05:59 PM
how about zero $$ to japan
Exactly if we only took care of ourselves in the first place. I have pretty much stopped paying attention to the Japan thing but, aren't they like "hey we don't want none of your help?" Just getting tired of hearing about the same shit just told at a different angle that has been going on for the past week.

ModularTurbo
04-07-2011, 09:13 PM
Active duty military can't sue the GOV no matter what.

If we don't get paid we still have to show up, if you don't show you are AWOL or missing movement. You will be NJP'd at the least I'm sure.

My CO told me that we may only get 1 weeks pay on the 15th of april, IF the shutdown occurs.

Do yourselves a favor and show up for muster, don't let your anger get the best of you. This situation blows and we just gotta roll with it.

Also I think that its kind of retarded that congress and welfare recipients still get their checks........:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:: mad:

My 2 cents.

Z28/2002
04-07-2011, 09:42 PM
How about they take a pay cut, oh wait they are in it for them and piss on the little guys

Arc00TA
04-07-2011, 10:13 PM
I'm really hoping they come up with something soon. My command just brought out page 13's to make sure we know we have to be there even if we don't get paid. I have enough saved to last a month without pay but I don't really want to cut into that yet. Haven't seen if they plan to backpay or not if it happens.

TransWS6Am
04-07-2011, 10:49 PM
they will backpay, they have said that from the beginning.

ModularTurbo
04-07-2011, 11:23 PM
agreed we will get back paid at least thats the plan, technically the only part of our pay that is guaranteed is basic pay though.....

deathphoenix
04-08-2011, 12:01 AM
YeahI have no prob going to work, as long as they provide transportation... No pay no money for gas ;)

ModularTurbo
04-08-2011, 09:13 AM
I know man lol

hawk584
04-08-2011, 11:33 AM
i'm taking up stock in Ramen Noodles because i know i'll be buying a shit ton of them!....

TXZ28LS1
04-08-2011, 06:02 PM
Fuckers dont even have money now.. How the fuck you gonna pay me back?

Shits a slap in the face to all my brothers and sisters that serve if they shit happens.

TXZ28LS1
04-08-2011, 06:08 PM
according to CNN, these cocksuckers are arguing over abortion.. :mad:

ColeGraham
04-08-2011, 08:20 PM
current email and .mil news i have read is that if they can get it passed we will be on half pay on the 15th...

we shall see.

gorge
04-08-2011, 10:00 PM
really ?? we can't get full pay cuz of some abortion bullshit?

1994formulalt1
04-08-2011, 10:26 PM
my CO said today that Navy Federal will get us the money as of this week, and that we will get back pay for however long the gov't is closed

mrpburke
04-08-2011, 11:13 PM
Well they reached a deal. Disaster averted.

gorge
04-08-2011, 11:19 PM
it's only for 6 more days right?

mrpburke
04-08-2011, 11:22 PM
it's only for 6 more days right?

They said they are going to pass a continuing resolution that will only last for a few more days but they have a long term bill ready to go. It's just gonna take them a couple days before they can get a vote on it. So this resolution will keep everything going until they get the bill passed this week.

Awake455
04-09-2011, 02:37 PM
Lol. Remember folks, selfless service...and what is that claptrap they throw out every time things are about to change and ppl are about to get shafted...oh yeah. "Be flexible"

It still sticks in my mind that the senate and the president (both of the same party) refused to entertain the notion of a bill ensuring our continued pay. If you think about it...the man ultimately giving our orders (which do not stop) not wishing to ensure our continued pay. Ironic, a black man okay with the notion of forcing someone to work without pay.

ModularTurbo
04-09-2011, 11:20 PM
Actually the republicans, wrote a lot of earmarks into the bill that they knew the Dems wouldn't go for in order to shift shutdown blame to the Dems....

PS Obama can only veto a bill nothing else...

The President is part of the executive branch ie military, foreign policy, etc etc
He has nothing to do with writing laws, bugdets, etc

Also lets not make potentially racist remarks.