Cadillac CTS-V - Wtf now im pissied!

i know you guys are thinking, geez another motor mount thread... but seriously what the fuck.

i broke a uuc mm about 3 weeks ago and Luke hooked me up with a new one quickly.

now after 2 WEEKS, heres the one he sent me.

And yes i install them properly, i dont think you can screw it up. i didnt even tighten it very hard this time. This is from the drivers side, the passanger side is holding up great

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh218/konrad_29/2011-03-15191755.jpg

Fail! That sucks.

Time for a revision mod on the UUC bushing I guess, sorry to hear about your grief :bang:

The pass. Side is holding up because the motors deflection is into the mount(compressing). The drivers side is separating the mount (pulling away). Looks like they have a bonding issue with the mount poly and the hardware. You shouldn't have to deal with this at the price of those mounts.

What tranny mount do you have?

Creative Steel time

stocker time.........all these aftermarket mounts seem to be just as bad in their own way.

Someone needs to make another run of RC51 style mounts!!!

I'd ask fo a refund and buy the creative steel black ones, never a failure i've heard of.

CS black

I still can't believe UUC just injection molds that garbage with a simple hex head bolt and sells it as a "premium" motormount.

At least weld a fender washer to it so it has more bite, and interlock the upper/lower stud so that when it does fail, the motor doesn't just fall out.

i dont even wanna think about swapping MM multiple times... now thats Mod Hell:bang:


stocker time.........all these aftermarket mounts seem to be just as bad in their own way.

:yup:


What tranny mount do you have?

I have never seen a pic/or a report of a OEM trans mount failing or even being damaged.. why change?? i have heard of people complaining of new vibs with aftermarket trans mounts tho...

Maybe Lindsay Cadillac needs to change their supplier to Creative Steel.

Someone needs to make another run of RC51 style mounts!!!

THIS!!!! The RC51 mounts are the best design mount out there, and nobody has had one fail. If I cant find a set I'll be making my own.

Maybe Lindsay Cadillac needs to change their supplier to Creative Steel.

My CS gray poly motor mounts are melting, anyone who uses them needs to heat wrap them and use the supplied heat shields. They melted when I had Kooks 1 7/8" headers, I haven't checked them since the turbo install, which uses the stock manifold. Yes I installed the motor mount heat shields.

If someone does a run of RC51-style mounts then I'll buy them, if not it will be 100% solid for me..lol

torque sucks! lol..jk

UMI Performance Inc. in Philipsburg, PA is developing a set similar to the "RC51" style mounts.

UMI Performance Inc. in Philipsburg, PA is developing a set similar to the "RC51" style mounts.


Yes we are, I have a set completed... I will pass them on for pictures ASAP so I can post them.

I have never seen a pic/or a report of a OEM trans mount failing or even being damaged.. why change?? i have heard of people complaining of new vibs with aftermarket trans mounts tho...

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e29/tommycompton/trannymount.jpg

FAIL!!!

Yes we are, I have a set completed... I will pass them on for pictures ASAP so I can post them.

Very interested!!


FAIL!!!

I dont know what looks worse, the busted mount or your crazy double jointed finger :D

Thats the first failed trans mount I have ever seen, good job on driving your car to it's limits!

Very interested!!

Me too!

Me too!


Me 3!!

I dont know what looks worse, the busted mount or your crazy double jointed finger :D

Thats the first failed trans mount I have ever seen, good job on driving your car to it's limits!

I think it failed because my OEM motor mounts were so shot. I would never go back to OEM (junk).

nice more options.:D:D.. anything going to be done about the transmission of vibrations through the solid mounts???

solid mount are great and all but vibs are the whole reason my RC51 MM are sitting on the shelf

I think it failed because my OEM motor mounts were so shot. I would never go back to OEM (junk).

haha i stand corrected.. only problem with the aftermarket mounts are that they dont include a positive lock like the OEM designs..its all poly and when that fails you got nothing.. with tha being said im running MM that dont have a positive lock so ill just STFU now hahah

haha i stand corrected.. only problem with the aftermarket mounts are that they dont include a positive lock like the OEM designs..its all poly and when that fails you got nothing.. with tha being said im running MM that dont have a positive lock so ill just STFU now hahah

The tranny doesn't really have anywhere to go except maybe up. I don't think the engine would go anywhere either, unless all mounts failed at once.
With the oem failed tranny mount when I went over speed bumps I could feel my shifter rise in my hand, then the the tranny would clunk back down.
I have UUC now, but plan on switching it out to a Creative steel grey mount.

UMI Performance Inc. in Philipsburg, PA is developing a set similar to the "RC51" style mounts.

I believe they look similar to the PADFT for the VETTE's

Sorry if this sounds dumb, But what does it feel like when the mount comes apart such as yours? Is the motor bouncing around and clunking? Just want the heads up to pay attention to mine as I bought and installed mine a few months ago.

Someone needs to make another run of RC51 style mounts!!!

this is what I have on the drivers side - passenger side is UUC and so far so great...

nice more options.:D:D.. anything going to be done about the transmission of vibrations through the solid mounts???

solid mount are great and all but vibs are the whole reason my RC51 MM are sitting on the shelf



haha i stand corrected.. only problem with the aftermarket mounts are that they dont include a positive lock like the OEM designs..its all poly and when that fails you got nothing.. with tha being said im running MM that dont have a positive lock so ill just STFU now hahah

Honestly they aren't that bad. They are not a solid mount. The RC51 mounts have a poly bushing that has star pattern to it almost. It makes it so they aren't as stiff as a solid bushing.

Also, the CS trans mount supposedly has a fail safe similar to the OEM mount in case of failure. Personally, I had the UUC trans mount and I threw it in the trash and learned a long time ago UUC is a joke. I run the RC51 mounts with the stock trans mount and even with a loppy cam it's really not bad! I know they are much better than failed OEM mounts lol

this time i felt and heard a clunking when i decided to look under the car. im getting pretty good at changing motor mounts (and removing longtubes) lol. also spoke with UUC today, and they told me the design was changed and i will be recieving the new one.

this time i felt and heard a clunking when i decided to look under the car. im getting pretty good at changing motor mounts (and removing longtubes) lol. also spoke with UUC today, and they told me the design was changed and i will be recieving the new one.

Post up some pics of the new ones.....I'm just curious to see what's changed on the setup

im curious to see what the UMI ones look like.


Not shocked to see the resident MM guru Joe pop in here.

If someone can get me some dimensions on the RC51 mounts, P/N's for the bushing used, or if someone has some on the shelf, I have a buddy that can fab some up, and get a price to see if he's willing to make another run of them.

I can coordinate this effort as well.

I dont understand why the idea for those mounts werent carried on... people just loving the UUC stuff.

Post up some pics of the new ones.....I'm just curious to see what's changed on the setup

They look identical

Trust me. Replace the tranny mount while your at it. Takes twenty minutes. If the tranny mount is worn/damaged/separated, it will allow the motor to deflect even more. You have give somewhere allowing your motor to deflect and separate your drivers side mount.

Bad workmanship- possibility YES!

But do you want to replace MM and tranny again wh you find out it's not a workmanship issue?

It's up to you. The Internet is full of tons of good info, and twice as much bad. You have to think logically on your own, because it's your car and your money. Just look at the big picture. Two failed UUC!?


Tranny and vibes - I have CS mm and tranny, no excess vibes here. Anyone else?

this whole mount issue is weird...some have failures and some dont. be it the stockers, UUC, or CS. some have melted and some are doing fine.

my stockers were shot after 33k on the clock. so, rather then getting stockers replace under warranty (since a lot of had issue doing that with a modded car), i replaced them with UUC at the recommendation of my shop. i now have almost 10k miles on them, with no issues. i am running Kooks LTs with Jet Hot 1700 Coating and the MM have header wrap and heat sheilds with them.

OP, sorry to here about the bad luck. hope you get her back up soon with no other problems

I made my own. The factory mount was trashed. Too weak of a design in my opinion.


At the same time I filled the factory trans mount. I will say that the filled oem trans mount transfers more internal transmission gear noise to the cabin. It could totally be contributed to the fact that is 94 hardness rubber.

this whole mount issue is weird...some have failures and some dont. be it the stockers, UUC, or CS. some have melted and some are doing fine.

my stockers were shot after 33k on the clock. so, rather then getting stockers replace under warranty (since a lot of had issue doing that with a modded car), i replaced them with UUC at the recommendation of my shop. i now have almost 10k miles on them, with no issues. i am running Kooks LTs with Jet Hot 1700 Coating and the MM have header wrap and heat sheilds with them.

OP, sorry to here about the bad luck. hope you get her back up soon with no other problems

We all know your mod list by now COLE.....Oh wait sorry wrong thread:D

I believe they look similar to the PADFT for the VETTE's

Structurally, the RC51, UMI, and the PFADT designs are pretty much the same. The PFADT are really nice looking.


"RC51"
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z130/Slithering_Joe/Misc/CIMG7436.jpg

PFADT, $250
http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/images/C56%20Engine%20Mounts.jpg

Looking at the UUC abortion of a design, it's just a matter of time until they fail. I'd hate to be the guy hitting the throttle hard after apexing a turn then to have the motor rip the mount. Or, Id hate to be the guy driving behind him/her. Just say'n.

With a stud that long on the bottom of the pfadt mount, I bet you could make a spacer and make them work. Just sayin.

Those would work.