Northwest Members - Day at PIR?
czechnuts
03-16-2011, 02:11 PM
Just curious how soon a group of you guys will be hiitin it up?
Tyler_LS1
03-16-2011, 02:29 PM
prolly when the weather turns around, id check the orygun thread often, usually someone will plan a track day
czechnuts
03-16-2011, 03:10 PM
Right on good to know.
tirefrynz28
03-16-2011, 10:50 PM
a few of us will be down there this weekend im sure, have gone the last 2 weekends
cncmasterofor
03-17-2011, 02:03 PM
I've been trying to get out there. One reason or another, something always holds me up. Now if I'm really lucky, it'll be next weekend.
02sslayer
03-17-2011, 03:45 PM
id like to go but i dont have a retune yet. do you guys think its safe to run my car with the fast on it? it still has the slp lid and stock maf so its probly not runnin lean or nothin. what do you guys think?
SalvageZ28
03-17-2011, 04:12 PM
id like to go but i dont have a retune yet. do you guys think its safe to run my car with the fast on it? it still has the slp lid and stock maf so its probly not runnin lean or nothin. what do you guys think?
If your running the stock maf i dont really see how it would change things up to much. Cause your computer is programed to run off of what that maf reads. You should just call tom and ask cause i maybe wrong or right
Nitroused383
03-17-2011, 04:25 PM
You guys talking about portland raceway or pacific?
02sslayer
03-17-2011, 04:29 PM
If your running the stock maf i dont really see how it would change things up to much. Cause your computer is programed to run off of what that maf reads. You should just call tom and ask cause i maybe wrong or right
good idea ill ask him
You guys talking about portland raceway or pacific?
portland
Nitroused383
03-17-2011, 04:40 PM
Oh I thought you guys always raced at Pacific international raceway. Why do you not race there? Is it crap? I thought about heading that way this year to hit up a sea level track.
02sslayer
03-17-2011, 04:50 PM
Oh I thought you guys always raced at Pacific international raceway. Why do you not race there? Is it crap? I thought about heading that way this year to hit up a sea level track.
hey nitroused, what do you think about my tuning issue?
*02WS6TURK*
03-17-2011, 07:18 PM
id like to go but i dont have a retune yet. do you guys think its safe to run my car with the fast on it? it still has the slp lid and stock maf so its probly not runnin lean or nothin. what do you guys think?
Just get it tuned already ;)
Rockin C Racing
03-17-2011, 08:12 PM
Nitroused - It isn't Pacific International Raceway. It is just Pacific Raceway (PR) which is located in Kent, WA in the Seattle area. Most of us live in the Portland area and that is why we go to Portland International Raceway (PIR). Pacific has a good track, but have had issues in management lately. The newest manager was recently hired, and sounds like a good guy
02sslayer
03-17-2011, 08:20 PM
@Turk i cant offord it. Might b a long time before its tuned
adrynalinjunkie
03-17-2011, 11:30 PM
Just get it tuned already ;)
Call Tom, I am sure he will say it is safe.
adrynalinjunkie
03-17-2011, 11:32 PM
I will be ready in a few weeks, I got the new motor in, I am just waiting for a dry street weekend to take it over and have Ellis do a road tune.
SsSteven
03-18-2011, 02:42 AM
I thought all tunes from Wong come with a free year of updates? He told me if I get a new tb, I can get it retuned within a year for free.
Nitroused383
03-18-2011, 05:15 AM
Well maybe 2002BlackTA and I will have to make a trip to Portland (PIR) sometime this summer and meet up with you guys.
If you are running the same MAF and it was scaled properly I don't see why swapping intakes would be a big issue. Say your LS6 intake was pulling 330 gram / sec of airflow through the maf, I am sure the correct air fuel ratio was tuned at this point. Now maybe your new setup is pulling 345 g/sec, the MAF should be very close in fueling if it was calibrated right. The main thing to worry about is if you were close to max duty cycle on your injectors with the LS6 intake and you threw the fast on, you may now be running out of fuel and need bigger injectors.
You best bet is to give Wong and call see if he can tweak it for you real quick. It wouldn't take long at all with a wideband.
2002BLKTA
03-18-2011, 10:38 AM
If EPS would hurry up and get me my cam so I can put that bitch in I could get the car running and make a trip down there.
cncmasterofor
03-18-2011, 01:51 PM
If EPS would hurry up and get me my cam so I can put that bitch in I could get the car running and make a trip down there.
BOM vs BOM?
2002BLKTA
03-18-2011, 03:31 PM
Sounds good to me. Would be nice to just see another BOM car let alone race one lol. Not many GTO's or fbodys down here. What mods do you have on yours?
BOM vs BOM?
cncmasterofor
03-18-2011, 08:16 PM
Sounds good to me. Would be nice to just see another BOM car let alone race one lol. Not many GTO's or fbodys down here. What mods do you have on yours?
The list is long, but to keep it short and sweet.
Full suspension, exhaust, mild cam, 3600 stall. Drive shaft, inter stubs, and shafts go in next week.
Believe it or not, there are a few BOM's in WA. Heck I went to PPP year before last. There were 4 of us. As it is, it's weird seeing one let alone 4. LOL.
freefallen.1
03-18-2011, 09:21 PM
If EPS would hurry up and get me my cam so I can put that bitch in I could get the car running and make a trip down there.
I hear ya there. Iam still waiting for a call back
*02WS6TURK*
03-18-2011, 09:29 PM
What specs are you guys getting in the EPS cams? Geoff answers the phone every time I call...how long have you been waiting to hear back from him?
2002BLKTA
03-18-2011, 09:38 PM
mine is a 226/234 113LSA didnt give me the lift when I talked to him. I ordered my cam over a month ago. Called him last week and he said he hadnt got the specs to comp to have it ground yet been busy at the shop he said. I very rarely see any GTO's around Spokane here and I have only seen one other BOM and that was 2 years ago before I had my 06. Before I traded the 04 away last fall I had the BOM, the yellow 04 and my cousins black 05 in my shop. That was kinda cool have all 3 years in one shop
*02WS6TURK*
03-18-2011, 11:13 PM
Awesome cam. You'll like it!
2002BLKTA
03-18-2011, 11:18 PM
I hope so he said it should go nice and have some lowend torque with the L92 heads on my LS2
Nitroused383
03-18-2011, 11:54 PM
I heard GTO's are slow?? :confused:
czechnuts
03-23-2011, 12:07 PM
Man I just want to finally go. I've yet to be there and I have personally owned it 2 years. It has been just when it was own by my dad and stock stock.
Tongboy
03-26-2011, 01:18 AM
I went down tonight, had a good time, Only saw one older f-body, he came over and checked out my car when I ran him down halfway down the strip
SalvageZ28
03-26-2011, 02:17 AM
I cant wait to get my car back together to tun it down the track=)
*02WS6TURK*
03-26-2011, 10:43 AM
I'm interested to see what time's I can pull now since my mod changes over this last year.
02sslayer
03-26-2011, 11:23 AM
Id love to go to....but probly be july before i make it
Tongboy
03-26-2011, 01:03 PM
I'm interested to see what time's I can pull now since my mod changes over this last year.
I went slower than last year :D
I think i'm running into the stock speed limiter on my top end now and the launch area at PIR is so terrible all I do is wheel spin/hop my way to 2.4 60's
02sslayer
03-26-2011, 01:45 PM
That is a terrible 60 ft. Their track prep must be garbage
tmoney223
03-26-2011, 02:21 PM
Of course it is. It's the beginning of the year and I'm sure the cold weather didn't help too.
cncmasterofor
03-26-2011, 02:30 PM
I went slower than last year :D
I think i'm running into the stock speed limiter on my top end now and the launch area at PIR is so terrible all I do is wheel spin/hop my way to 2.4 60's
2.4? I know PIR doesn't have the greatest track prep by any means. But a 2.4 60'? If the track has gotton that bad, maybe I'll just keep my PIR "license" money and keep my track time at Woodburn.
tmoney223
03-26-2011, 02:43 PM
Well I've been to both and I hit my best time at PIR. At woodburn all I could get was 13.1's.. I pretty sure it's to early to go. I'm going to try to hit up both tracks again this year. I need to find another motor pretty quick too. Eathier a LS2 or a LQ4-9.
SalvageZ28
03-26-2011, 02:53 PM
Todd let me drive your car at the track i wanna get some high 11's in it on street tires
SalvageZ28
03-26-2011, 02:55 PM
Pir this year seems to actually prep the track cause the track is hooking.
02sslayer
03-26-2011, 03:30 PM
Im pretty sure todds car isnt capable of 11s on street tires lol i know mine isnt
SalvageZ28
03-26-2011, 06:08 PM
Im pretty sure todds car isnt capable of 11s on street tires lol i know mine isnt
O trust me boy i know it is=) Just a driver mod is needed
*02WS6TURK*
03-26-2011, 08:30 PM
Todd let me drive your car at the track i wanna get some high 11's in it on street tires
I've never ran street tires. I'm running DR's. I would bet a $100 Tim could hit a high 11 in my bird. Will I let him try, no...lol
02sslayer
03-26-2011, 09:18 PM
Well tim that would be a pretty tall order. No drs= no launch. No matter how good of driver you are
Tongboy
03-27-2011, 12:21 AM
Well tim that would be a pretty tall order. No drs= no launch. No matter how good of driver you are
thats what I blame my crappy 60's on, though everyone tells me I should be able to do something around a 2.0 on solid street tires like what I run.
I need to pick up a set of hoosiers and some 15 wheels to mount them on. I need to redo my brake lines in the engine bay for better header clearance and will put some line lock solenoids in at the same time too...
02sslayer
03-27-2011, 01:29 AM
Dont need hoosiers just get some nice drs
02sslayer
03-27-2011, 01:31 AM
This is what would be needed for turks car to hit 11s drs and a 5 or 6k rpm launch. The best driver in the world couldnt hit 11s on street tires in that car. Its really kinda unrealistic
SalvageZ28
03-27-2011, 05:42 AM
This is what would be needed for turks car to hit 11s drs and a 5 or 6k rpm launch. The best driver in the world couldnt hit 11s on street tires in that car. Its really kinda unrealistic
Not really man my best 60 foot was on street tire's in my camaro. And i also have a set of M/T's that i ran on. Its all on how the track is that day and the tires would be at 15 pounds. Its not a honda 5k to 6k launch is not needed you would just blow the tire's or drag radials at that rpm. i Have driven lots of 6 speed ls cars at the track.
SalvageZ28
03-27-2011, 05:44 AM
I've never ran street tires. I'm running DR's. I would bet a $100 Tim could hit a high 11 in my bird. Will I let him try, no...lol
What did you run at the track??? like trap speed??
*02WS6TURK*
03-27-2011, 08:02 AM
This is what would be needed for turks car to hit 11s drs and a 5 or 6k rpm launch. The best driver in the world couldnt hit 11s on street tires in that car. Its really kinda unrealistic
It has DR's. And your statement about the best driver in the world not being able to hit 11's is retarded. I've seen plenty of guys with the same set up and or with less modifications hit 11's all day. I think you are just upset that you haven't landed a solid 11 with your H/C combo. ;)
*02WS6TURK*
03-27-2011, 08:11 AM
What did you run at the track??? like trap speed??
It was terrible. Keep in mind I've only been to the track once. My 60 foots were like 2.3 to 2.5. My best time was a flat 13.0 @117 or 118mph. My MPH were pretty good. Keep in mind these times were with just bolt ons, stock 3.42 gears and me not warming up the tires at all and only taking the RPM's up to 2500 off the line. In a good drivers hands, this combo as it sits now has easy 11's in it.
tmoney223
03-27-2011, 10:07 AM
Just bolt ons my ass..lol 117-118mph? Dont think so. I only hit 109 and phill 108 pat 108. Even Tyler with 3.93 gears he only hits 112.. So maybe you saw 107 or 108..:D
02sslayer
03-27-2011, 12:20 PM
Oh really turk its retarded? Ya i bet 11s on street tires is way easy hell you probly have 10s in that sucker. And todd i will out drive your ass anyday. I have a pretty good 60 ft and i havnt hit 11s. Which is mostly due to my fricken pedel sticking to the floor. So dont get all butthurt just cause i dont beleive your car will hit 11s on street tires. Drs yes it could hit 11s.
02sslayer
03-27-2011, 12:30 PM
Salvage what r u saying that only hondas launch at 5 or 6 k? I happen yo know that poncho launches at like 5500 rpm. Im just sayin todds car would need a serious launch at pir to hit 11s
*02WS6TURK*
03-27-2011, 12:50 PM
Oh really turk its retarded? Ya i bet 11s on street tires is way easy hell you probly have 10s in that sucker. And todd i will out drive your ass anyday. I have a pretty good 60 ft and i havnt hit 11s. Which is mostly due to my fricken pedel sticking to the floor. So dont get all butthurt just cause i dont beleive your car will hit 11s on street tires. Drs yes it could hit 11s.
Best part about this message is, me just getting a text from you saying not to get upset with what you just wrote. I've got thick skin Joe. You just said it to, my car would hit 11's on drs. Basically what I was saying...never said anything about 10's so take a deep breath slugger.
T$, you are correct. Droid typo on the MPH.
02sslayer
03-27-2011, 12:58 PM
Sorry man. I dont wana get in battles dude. Lets just forget about it and move on shall we?
freefallen.1
03-27-2011, 01:58 PM
It was terrible. Keep in mind I've only been to the track once. My 60 foots were like 2.3 to 2.5. My best time was a flat 13.0 @117 or 118mph. My MPH were pretty good. Keep in mind these times were with just bolt ons, stock 3.42 gears and me not warming up the tires at all and only taking the RPM's up to 2500 off the line. In a good drivers hands, this combo as it sits now has easy 11's in it.
The funny part of this whole conversation is the fact that nobody will ever know what Todds car does cause it never gets driven.. :D Oh and Todd would never let anybody run his car, Which I completely understand, agree with, and give kudos too. nothing like watching your car be walled by some Jack hole who thinks hes johnny racer, like the guy who I bought this blown POS m6 from. :ban::ban::ban::ban::ban::ban::gtfo::gtfo::gtfo::g tfo::gtfo::lock::lock::lock::lock::lock::lock::loc k::lock::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::judge ::judge::judge::judge::judge: Im out
tmoney223
03-27-2011, 03:02 PM
That's what I thought Turk. My damn iPhone does the same thing....I was going to offer 50gs for your car if it was true..lol
SalvageZ28
03-27-2011, 04:17 PM
Oh really turk its retarded? Ya i bet 11s on street tires is way easy hell you probly have 10s in that sucker. And todd i will out drive your ass anyday. I have a pretty good 60 ft and i havnt hit 11s. Which is mostly due to my fricken pedel sticking to the floor. So dont get all butthurt just cause i dont beleive your car will hit 11s on street tires. Drs yes it could hit 11s.
Whats your 60 foot time's????
SalvageZ28
03-27-2011, 04:39 PM
Salvage what r u saying that only hondas launch at 5 or 6 k? I happen yo know that poncho launches at like 5500 rpm. Im just sayin todds car would need a serious launch at pir to hit 11s
Yup thats right them shit boxes launch 5 to 6k. and no not only hondas launch that high.
Poncho doesn't have the tire for a launch like that and he spins to much when he launch's. and he has to much gear. He needs 3.90's or 4.10's
SalvageZ28
03-27-2011, 04:51 PM
Sorry man. I dont wana get in battles dude. Lets just forget about it and move on shall we?
LOL its just talk man. There is no need to get all angry over things like this. its just talk. i was just saying cause with the power he has it should be able to get a high 11 on street tires with a good launch.
So anyways who's all going to be running at the track this year??
02sslayer
03-27-2011, 05:16 PM
Ya maybe at another track. But pir unlikely. Anywho i wont be making it out till july probly, im on a weird 3 month on 1 month off scheduale
Nitroused383
03-27-2011, 05:49 PM
It's not a wise idea to run street tires at the track with a 6 speed and some decent power. I tried like hell to run 11's on street tires and I will just say it is very dangerous. A 400 + rwhp m6 will spin the tires through 3rd gear. 4.11's and a 10 bolt with a sticky tire = bye bye 10 bolt. A 6 speed car needs a good bias ply drag slick to have a good launch, unless you have a ton of drag orientied suspension mods.
tmoney223
03-27-2011, 08:50 PM
Well yeah the 10 bolt is a gamble, but can be done:) I wouldn't try it unless I had a trailer.
SalvageZ28
03-27-2011, 09:46 PM
It's not a wise idea to run street tires at the track with a 6 speed and some decent power. I tried like hell to run 11's on street tires and I will just say it is very dangerous. A 400 + rwhp m6 will spin the tires through 3rd gear. 4.11's and a 10 bolt with a sticky tire = bye bye 10 bolt. A 6 speed car needs a good bias ply drag slick to have a good launch, unless you have a ton of drag orientied suspension mods.
Yeah its all on the driver and how skilled he is. Ive drove a 480 wheel gto at the track on street tires and i didnt have any issues.
02sslayer
03-27-2011, 10:21 PM
The 10 bolt is alot stronger than people give it credit for. I slip the clutch out instead of dumping it
Mikey 97Z M6
03-27-2011, 10:48 PM
The 10 bolt is alot stronger than people give it credit for.
Ummmm,,, NO! :)
Mike
Mikey 97Z M6
03-27-2011, 10:52 PM
Yeah its all on the driver and how skilled he is. Ive drove a 480 wheel gto at the track on street tires and i didnt have any issues.
Not quite the same. The GTO's have independent rear suspension, so the rear end plants evenly. A live axle will unload the right rear tire because the axle wants to twist with the driveshaft.
Mike
SalvageZ28
03-27-2011, 11:25 PM
Not quite the same. The GTO's have independent rear suspension, so the rear end plants evenly. A live axle will unload the right rear tire because the axle wants to twist with the driveshaft.
Mike
Yeah but that gto also had stock baldish tires on the rear.
smokinponcho73
03-28-2011, 12:07 AM
Yeah I broke two 10 bolt's before I got the 9" and the first time was under bolt on power. I don't really think a taller gear would help my car, I think it is more so I need a taller tire with more sidewall to flex and also another 2" on each side would help. Right now I am only running a 26" slick with an 8.5" contact patch.
02sslayer
03-28-2011, 12:57 AM
Mike i beg to differ. I have over 20 4k to 4.5k launches on my 10 bolt and it still kickin. That was on drs by the way
smokinponcho73
03-28-2011, 01:22 AM
Joe I broke mine on the street with basic bolt ons.
02sslayer
03-28-2011, 01:36 AM
Ok i guess i have a super 10 bolt then. Cuz i have bolt ons and head and cam and drs and i launch the shit out of mine. It dead hooks at 4k but at 4.5k he tires were spinning pretty bad. But i did that in colder weather. Im pretty sure its cuz i release tye clutch instead of just sliding my foot off
smokinponcho73
03-28-2011, 10:47 AM
It could be, first time mine broke I hit 2nd gear hard on the street with two friends in the car and boom!
tmoney223
03-28-2011, 11:28 AM
Yeah I dump mine at 4k also and I have 177k on my car..lol.. Hey Joe I think we have some super strong rearends..lol... But I still won't trust it. Just a bomb waiting to go off!!
*02WS6TURK*
03-28-2011, 11:57 AM
I've got multiple 6 grand clutch dumps while spraying 150 shots and mine is fresh :)
Tyler_LS1
03-28-2011, 12:48 PM
You guys (with super 10 bolts) are running stock gears so I think that helps ya a bit
02sslayer
03-28-2011, 02:14 PM
Lol. Ya im sure it helps.
ls1whip
03-28-2011, 03:24 PM
[QUOTE=*02WS6TURK*;14702137]I've got multiple 6 grand clutch dumps while spraying 150 shots and mine is fresh :)
True story i was in the bird, its not often you get to show off for high school cheerleaders at a car wash man they was sooo in too us turk! we should have done work. well i should have your reserved now.
ps 18k for a black zo6 on craigs 90k miles 6spd.
*02WS6TURK*
03-28-2011, 03:27 PM
[QUOTE=*02WS6TURK*;14702137]I've got multiple 6 grand clutch dumps while spraying 150 shots and mine is fresh :)
True story i was in the bird, its not often you get to show off for high school cheerleaders at a car wash man they was sooo in too us turk! we should have done work. well i should have your reserved now.
ps 18k for a black zo6 on craigs 90k miles 6spd.
That was great times Whip. I was spitting rocks & nitrous all over them as they took their bikini's off. My shifter still smells like roses :chug: Hey, smell my shifter....
02sslayer
03-28-2011, 05:11 PM
You guys are so full of it. Neither one of u even have nawz
*02WS6TURK*
03-28-2011, 05:37 PM
Yes we do. Tim and I are the nitrous kings of Oregon.
02sslayer
03-28-2011, 06:21 PM
Mmmhm lol. I almost put a 125 shot on my car before i decided on goin wit heads and cam
ls1whip
03-28-2011, 08:59 PM
varsity quarter backs girl lost her v card too turks shift knob
Mikey 97Z M6
03-28-2011, 09:01 PM
The 10 bolt is alot stronger than people give it credit for. I slip the clutch out instead of dumping it
Mike i beg to differ. I have over 20 4k to 4.5k launches on my 10 bolt and it still kickin. That was on drs by the way
You can beg all ya want man, I've been through three of those hunks of rotten shit called a 10 bolt. If it's so strong, then why slip your clutch? Let it fly and lets see what she's really made of. You aint skeeered are ya? lol... :)
Mike
02sslayer
03-28-2011, 09:15 PM
Well i dont exactly slip it i just release it quickly. But i get 1.8 60 fts. Im not getting a 12 bolt till the super 10 bolt breaks. Om not sayin it wont break but i think ive had some pretty damn good luck with it so far wouldnt you say mike? Lol
Mikey 97Z M6
03-28-2011, 09:18 PM
Well i dont exactly slip it i just release it quickly. But i get 1.8 60 fts. Im not getting a 12 bolt till the super 10 bolt breaks. Om not sayin it wont break but i think ive had some pretty damn good luck with it so far wouldnt you say mike? Lol
I don't know, you've only had your h/c for what, 9 months, and the car hasn't been driven but maybe 4 of those months lol.... Give it some time, that cherry will pop eventually.
Mike
02sslayer
03-28-2011, 09:30 PM
Ya maybe. I have quite a few hard launches with my h/c setup. Dont get me wrong i dont think my rear is invincible or nothin lol
freefallen.1
03-29-2011, 07:23 PM
Yeah I dump mine at 4k also and I have 177k on my car..lol.. Hey Joe I think we have some super strong rearends..lol... But I still won't trust it. Just a bomb waiting to go off!!
Really, you guys have some super strong rear ends huh??? Something you and Joe need to get out of the "closet' on... :barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf: :D:D Just kidding guys. Money you are always walking into those
jsafe
04-02-2011, 10:04 PM
Mike i beg to differ. I have over 20 4k to 4.5k launches on my 10 bolt and it still kickin. That was on drs by the way
Joe l broke mine w/an auto on street tires all motor.....
02sslayer
04-02-2011, 10:18 PM
Ok guys thats sucks your 10 bolts broke so easily. Mine has held up just fine and ive done numerous hard launches. Since you all are telling em how easy you guys broke yours, im guessing you guys think im lieing about it. If any of you are breaking your rear ends with street tires and bolt ons you are probly trieing to break it.