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Old 03-31-2011, 03:08 PM
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Got my second ticket today from an officer that used a laser gun. Funny part was my $500 Escort 9500ix Radar/Laser detector never picked them up. Ok, now I understand the Laser is a very concentrated beam and they often aim for your LP or headlights and it may not hit the detector, but today, I asked the officer to laser me right in front of my car, guess what, the detector didn't do ****! He stuck the gun all the way up to my windshield 3 inches from the detector and and after holding it there for over 10 seconds, it lit up and said LASER for a brief second and we couldn't get it to pick up the laser after that. Now Escort claims these thing are made to pick up the threat before it can get you and when it comes to Radar, I fully agree but not with laser. I called Escort today about the issue and was told my detector was most likely working right but it is very hard to pick up laser. WTF, this is part of why I bought this thing and now Im on the phone with them and they are telling me basically that their product doesn't work as advertised. So just a word to the wise, don't buy this detector and think you are safe from Laser, it doesn't work! If anyone else has had similar experiences, I would love to hear about it.
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Originally Posted by 02Z28ZO6
Got my second ticket today from an officer that used a laser gun. Funny part was my $500 Escort 9500ix Radar/Laser detector never picked them up. Ok, now I understand the Laser is a very concentrated beam and they often aim for your LP or headlights and it may not hit the detector, but today, I asked the officer to laser me right in front of my car, guess what, the detector didn't do ****! He stuck the gun all the way up to my windshield 3 inches from the detector and and after holding it there for over 10 seconds, it lit up and said LASER for a brief second and we couldn't get it to pick up the laser after that. Now Escort claims these thing are made to pick up the threat before it can get you and when it comes to Radar, I fully agree but not with laser. I called Escort today about the issue and was told my detector was most likely working right but it is very hard to pick up laser. WTF, this is part of why I bought this thing and now Im on the phone with them and they are telling me basically that their product doesn't work as advertised. So just a word to the wise, don't buy this detector and think you are safe from Laser, it doesn't work! If anyone else has had similar experiences, I would love to hear about it.
sorry to hear about the luck... I happened to be a cop (another time/place) and I ran LIDAR (Laser) and RADAR.. I can agree, not much out there stops LASER, and really there is nothing that detects it before it can detect you! I have lazed vehicles at nearly a mile.. had a detector myself, as well as a bunch of friends, as well as one friend who had something GUARANTEED to BLOCK Radar/Laser... it was faulty at best... but absolutely nothing is full proof against those things that I have seen.
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sorry to hear about that. I wonder if the Valentine 1 would do any better on the tests.
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good thing they use radar out by me and on the country roads they usually leave it on so i catch em way early
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I wonder what percentage of cops use laser.. Sorry to hear about that op
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buy a laser jammer, laser jammers are legal because they are not covered under the fcc like radar. Winning .
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Was it mounted behind the tinted visor strip on the front windshield? That GREATLY reduces laser detection. I have my 8500 right below my tint strip and it works great...of course I realize that if the thing does goes off and it's laser, I most likely just got got...
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your pretty much S.O.L if you get hit with a LIDAR gun. they turn it on when they want to and when it's on it's usually too late. it don't matter if you have the best top of the line detector, it's not going to save you EVERY time. it might save you sometimes. and i see you live in CA. i believe laser jammers are illegal here.
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Originally Posted by ramairetransam
buy a laser jammer, laser jammers are legal because they are not covered under the fcc like radar. Winning .
Yes...spoofing law enforcement officials is 100% legal. If you don't mind, please record the conversation between you and the police officer when you tell him this piece of news after he pulls you over.
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Originally Posted by ramairetransam
buy a laser jammer, laser jammers are legal because they are not covered under the fcc like radar. Winning .
I'm pretty sure state laws would disagree with you. Jammers are illegal in many states, regardless of your rationale.

Worrying about detecting laser is pretty pointless. If you get hit by it, you're most likely busted anyway.
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Originally Posted by Spartan7
Worrying about detecting laser is pretty pointless. If you get hit by it, you're most likely busted anyway.
Exactly...that whole speed of light thing really gets you, not to mention the narrow beamwidth that pretty much guarantees that you are the one being pointed at.

I got busted with a laser many years ago...my Valentine One lit up like a Christmas tree, and I immediately slammed on the brakes. Cop flew up in a hurry and pulled me over.

The first thing out of his mouth? "Where's your radar detector? You know those things don't do you any good, right?"
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LIDAR jammers are legal in most states. They are illegal in California, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, and of course Virginia (where all radar/laser detectors and jammers are illegal). Otherwise, they are light emitters rather than radio frequency emitters so they are not covered by any FCC regulations or federal laws.

They work by sending a pulsed light that confuses the LIDAR gun and can be somewhat effective at a distance but are pretty much useless close in.
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Would like to know where you have your 9500ix mounted. Have had 0 issues with mine picking up lasers in the past. Like said though, usually when it lights up, its pretty much just telling you, "got you!!"

Where detectors are mounted makes a huge difference. I always laugh when I see the people with the detectors up in the tint strip with it angled at 45* or right behind their hood line.

What even convinced me more of this was my brother in law has a 9500ix also, suction cups stopped working so he was just putting it on his dash cause his friends that are electrical geniuses said it would still work the same and I am dumb for putting it in the middle of the windshield. We were on some back roads heading to a lake and wife was following in her TA. Suddenly she dropped back fast, thought something was wrong and tried to call her than around the corner on LEO came around, hit the brakes and another came around. Got pulled over and told to slow down. Wife later came up because they pulled her over and claimed she was speeding and let her go also. She asked why we didn't slow down because she caught them a good 10 seconds before we even saw them.

Also I would take what he was doing with his gun and your radar detector with a grain of salt. Could have been turned off or whatever not sending a signal trying to convince you to ditch it.
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Originally Posted by Rawr256
Would like to know where you have your 9500ix mounted. Have had 0 issues with mine picking up lasers in the past. Like said though, usually when it lights up, its pretty much just telling you, "got you!!"

Where detectors are mounted makes a huge difference. I always laugh when I see the people with the detectors up in the tint strip with it angled at 45* or right behind their hood line.

What even convinced me more of this was my brother in law has a 9500ix also, suction cups stopped working so he was just putting it on his dash cause his friends that are electrical geniuses said it would still work the same and I am dumb for putting it in the middle of the windshield. We were on some back roads heading to a lake and wife was following in her TA. Suddenly she dropped back fast, thought something was wrong and tried to call her than around the corner on LEO came around, hit the brakes and another came around. Got pulled over and told to slow down. Wife later came up because they pulled her over and claimed she was speeding and let her go also. She asked why we didn't slow down because she caught them a good 10 seconds before we even saw them.

Also I would take what he was doing with his gun and your radar detector with a grain of salt. Could have been turned off or whatever not sending a signal trying to convince you to ditch it.
Mine is mounted in the center of the windshield, about 4 inches over the top of my SS hood. Shouldn't have mattered with the gun right in front of it. If you call Escort, they will tell you this is normal, the Laser beam is very hard to pick up. I would have my doubts about the officers gun being on but this is the second time and again, Escort says this operation is normal.

I have looked at the laser jammers, they are hard to get in CA but some kits are marketed as "parking assistants" as they have the capability of telling you how far you are from something.
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Exactly...that whole speed of light thing really gets you, not to mention the narrow beamwidth that pretty much guarantees that you are the one being pointed at.

I got busted with a laser many years ago...my Valentine One lit up like a Christmas tree, and I immediately slammed on the brakes. Cop flew up in a hurry and pulled me over.

The first thing out of his mouth? "Where's your radar detector? You know those things don't do you any good, right?"
Cops always say **** like that to bust your ***** when you get caught red handed. I work full time at a local fire department and talk to all the local cops on a regular basis. They're pretty cool people if you ask me. They won't pull you over for doing 5-10 over normally unless you have warrants, etc. If you purchase a radar detector and plan on really pushing the envelope, that's your risk.

I can verify that my V1, X50 8500 and Vector 995 have saved my *** on more than one occasion. That's why I have a radar in each car I own. Not worth $125+ speeding tickets for going 10 over the speed limit.
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Usually laser is used around a corner or hill so by the time you see them they are already pulling out after you. Most of the places I see it used there isn't anywhere to go if you wanted to try and speed up. You take the risk when you speed, yea it is no fun paying fines but no one forced you speed.
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sorry..there is no technology offered to the CIVILIAN POPULATION...and the police spends lots of money to stay ahead man..
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There maybe something wrong with your radar but still if they hit you with laser if it goes off or not you have maybe half a second to slow down. If you want to jam laser google "laser interceptor" they make the best jammers, they are illegeal in a few states but not many. But my 9500ix works perfect for me.
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there must be something wrong with your detector... i have the escort 9500i and it has saved me so many times from tickets. and i got hit twice with laser and escaped getting pulled over...
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Valentine 1 is by far the best at picking up laser "scatter", the situation needs to be right for it to happen. If the car in front of you gets hit with laser in the headlight (most common area in states w/o a front plate) a little bit will go down the side of the car, the farther the gun from the target (headlight) the more can slip down the side of the car. At 2000ft a lidar beam is about 6ft wide, this is typically the farthest distance officers shoot.

I have owned / tested every high end radar detector our there and have also sold most models of lidar guns. I have personally tested the above with a Kustom Prolaser 3 lidar gun and the V1 would pick up about 30% of the shots, Escort redline, and 9500ix never picked up anything in my scatter tests.

Picking up scatter is few and far between.....

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