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Old 02-18-2004, 11:10 PM
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Default How much torque increase with a TNT 150 shot on a N/A 436ci stroker putting down.....

say 500 RWHP through an A4 on motor?

I was told that the RWHP would be increase by about 175.

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It doesn't matter because the trans won't hold up to that much power.
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should be more like 200 lb ft torque at the wheels.
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I dynoed a 175 shot once and gained 188 ft. lbs. at the wheels. I only gained 134 hp though. Still needed some tuning, but I was floored at that amt. of torque.
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at like 3000 rpm's you might get a torque spike in excess of 200#'s. it will of course drop off as your rise and start turning torque into horsepower.
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Originally Posted by strokedls1
It doesn't matter because the trans won't hold up to that much power.

You don't think it will hold up? FLP said it would easily.

Also, maybe I should clarify, these runs will be from a roll, not out of the hole. Usually from 40-50 mph rolls in 2nd gear.
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Originally Posted by slow
at like 3000 rpm's you might get a torque spike in excess of 200#'s. it will of course drop off as your rise and start turning torque into horsepower.
So, when I putthe other 150 (dry) shot on it should I just assume another 175 RWHP and another 200 RWTQ. From a roll?
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From a roll you may be ok. I assume you mean on some et streets. On the bigger motor it will be a smaller shot because it uses a lot more air. The jetting is really 196.6 flywheel which is how nos rates. Just make sure the fuel system is up to the task.
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with a dry system I think power is down compared to wet systems, at least as far as how manufacturer rates them. Get a wet kit and get it tuned to where you want it...dont pay TO much attention to the jet sizes/manufactures claims...you have an aftermarket application so things may be diferent. Get it tuned with the nitrous on and you will be safe and happy.
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Originally Posted by strokedls1
From a roll you may be ok. I assume you mean on some et streets. On the bigger motor it will be a smaller shot because it uses a lot more air. The jetting is really 196.6 flywheel which is how nos rates. Just make sure the fuel system is up to the task.
So maybe I'll do the 150 wet and a 175 dry, this way I'll get about the 300 I'm looking for.
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Originally Posted by strokedls1
It doesn't matter because the trans won't hold up to that much power.
It'll hold.
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Originally Posted by FLP
It'll hold.
It's not a question of if it will hold, but for how long? No way a 4l60 is going to hold up behind a full weight f-body with a big displacement and a 300+ shot for long. Hell I'm scared to just do a wet 150 on top of my 422 with my built 4l60. Good thing I have a warranty for 2 years 24k. Even a turbo 400 would be abused with that kind of power on a regular basis.
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Originally Posted by strokedls1
It's not a question of if it will hold, but for how long? No way a 4l60 is going to hold up behind a full weight f-body with a big displacement and a 300+ shot for long. Hell I'm scared to just do a wet 150 on top of my 422 with my built 4l60. Good thing I have a warranty for 2 years 24k. Even a turbo 400 would be abused with that kind of power on a regular basis.
If it does break, I'll be putting in a TH400 with Gearvendors OD. That shouldn't break from roll races.

I will probably spray the 100 or 150 dry shot (whatever it is I do) a few times a week, but the full dual 300 will be rarely done.

BTW, How long does it take to swap the jets in a dry shot if I just wanted a 50 or 75 shot instead of the 100 or 150.
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Takes me 5 minutes to swap jets. A 150 shot would be about max on a regular basis.
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Originally Posted by strokedls1
Takes me 5 minutes to swap jets. A 150 shot would be about max on a regular basis.
So how many jets are there in a wet 150 shot, TNT F1?

Do you just screw it out of the ring, change it, and then screw it back in?
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the only question i have is, will your maf support that large of a dry shot, on top of a healthy 436?

Remember 98's max out at 11250 hz. Something i would be at least aware of when you spray the first time. (dry)

not sure on the torque of the dry shot.

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[QUOTE=slow]the only question i have is, will your maf support that large of a dry shot, on top of a healthy 436?

Remember 98's max out at 11250 hz. Something i would be at least aware of when you spray the first time. (dry)

not sure on the torque of the dry shot.

Great point, I would just go with the F2 TNT wet system. The only tunnig will be a bit of timing if you go over a 200 shot. With the dry and your combo there will injector changes and other mods, I think the easy and safe way will be the wet. The F2 system is tunable up to almost 300hp

With a 150 wet shot tuned on the dyno you should pick up just over 150 rwhp and over 200 rwtq.

I don't think you will have a prob. with the trans as FLP does great trans work. Remeber our C5 made just over 800 rwhp through the 4L60 and ran 155mph The trans did need clutch maint. but was run with almost everything we had near the end of testing Just keep that trans fliud at the right temp
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Here is my experience. On a TNT 100 shot I went from 411/379 to 532/650.
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Originally Posted by HC02SS
Here is my experience. On a TNT 100 shot I went from 411/379 to 532/650.
271 torque increase on a 100 shot?

So what will I gain in your opinion with a 150 shot? Considering about 500 N/A RWHP/RWTQ.
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It all depends on the fuel. With a leaner setup i put down 563/632 (12.7 a/f). When I richened up the jet I pulled the 532/649 (12.0 a/f).


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